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Local came up again for a further lesson in this fine art ,lol.Took him to a place where a farmer is moaning about deer trapped in a field he has electric fenced ready for cattle and hes worried about them damaging themselves and undoing his hard work so i said id take a look .This is also an intensive organic chicken farm if thats the right combination of words to use so fox control is of utmost importance .We glassed the area from the truck and were more than surprised to see two young bucks out together following each other in the lush ,long grass and at the far end of this meadow .We planned a route that would get us both to within shot and set off on foot around the perimeter to our targets .Both deer were to be taken for reasons discussed but i wanted time to study and watch their interactions before culling them .This didnt feel like the wild stalking i know of and local voiced the same but it had to be done im afraid .We got to within 200 yds and crawled the last 60 or so to a slight vantage pont that put the pair within easy watching distance.They alternated grazing with mock fights and prancing displays,working towards us until they were only 30 yds away .I motioned that i would take the first and local to follow soon after which as expected worked a treat .Both off the bipod and dead within metres of the shots . Nothing to congratulate and we gralloched in silence,not even a pic was taken .Hung them in a tree while we went back for the lamp . First shine revealed a fox at range but a squeak never had any effect on it at all and just as i was flicking the lamp round i saw a pair of eyes only 20 yds away ,a fox had somehow snuck in under the radar but local made him pay dearly off sticks ,a dog fox. I know where an occupied earth is here so ill try for the vixen tommorrow and deal with the cubs.Drove around the rest as there are tracks in the field and collected the deer taking pics as we did .

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Those bucks could be twins matey :notworthy:

Doubt it Male twins in Roe would be extremely rare

 

Roe usually either have A male and a Female kid or just one kid if its a single kid thats usually a female.

 

There are exceptions but if different to the above it isnt normal.

Regards

Cap

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Those bucks could be twins matey :notworthy:

Doubt it Male twins in Roe would be extremely rare

 

Roe usually either have A male and a Female kid or just one kid if its a single kid thats usually a female.

 

There are exceptions but if different to the above it isnt normal.

Regards

Cap

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Sorry mate but i can dispute that 10 times over .Seen many does with twins of the same sex .We had triplets on one farm that were all buck kids .I will go with the single theory though .Only ever seen single doe kids .

I have many leases over many thousand acres in different parts of the country and I have never ever seen Twin bucks ever ,I am aware there are exceptions but I havent come across them and I have been stalking and wild life management for over 30 years.

 

Regards

Cap

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Sorry mate but i can dispute that 10 times over .Seen many does with twins of the same sex .We had triplets on one farm that were all buck kids .I will go with the single theory though .Only ever seen single doe kids .

I have many leases over many thousand acres in different parts of the country and I have never ever seen Twin bucks ever ,I am aware there are exceptions but I havent come across them and I have been stalking and wild life management for over 30 years.

 

Regards

Cap

 

I would have to back up foxdropper on this im afraid, I could take you to ground now and show you last years kids still twinned up in brothers and sisters pairs.

 

Obviously different ground varies and it could be that some does only ever throw the same sex. Certainly we've had red hinds in farm/park environments that havnt thrown a male calf ever, only a hind calf, every year and vice versa.

 

Im sure at some point in time your ground has reared twin buck kids, maybe you just didnt see them, very possible if youve that much land available to you.

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Must just be unlucky Cap mate as it does happen fairly regularly mate,but,as has been said with that much land availaqble it would be hard to know everything that happens on the ground.

 

Martin

 

p.s. well done Local and FD

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See buck and doe twins regularly, shot one of a pair of buck twins a fortnight ago, both still with mum. Watched four does last spring and came to the conclusion they were mum and triplets (1 biggun, three little'uns).

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