Raw meat diet

[Aaron_butcher 17]

I know this topic has probably been done to death but after trawling through pages and pages of topics I've still not found the answers I'm looking for.

I'm looking to swap my dog from his dry greyhound beta diet to a complete raw diet. But would anyone mind giving me a complete breakdown of what they give thier dogs throughout the week with amounts as a template for me to start from. Ie: monday morning - mince beef.........monday evening - chicken etc etc.

Also, at my local pet shop they have frozen chicken wings and other frozen raw meats for dogs, would these have to be minced up into a fine pulp to avoid choking or is it the same story as the ferrets and just throw it in?

And lastly does worming need to be made more frequent?

Thanks very much for any input, Aaron.

[godzilla 3]

no need to mince it up throw it in,

[redcharge 378]

Dont think BARF diets are an exact science mate, my dogs are between 50lb - 60lb and they get around 3lb of meat a day either chicken carcasses, beef tripe, beef mince and meaty lamb bones when I can source them. I also started to give them Eukanuba a couple of times a week about 6 months ago and have seen a difference in them since I've been doing this. Once every 2 weeks I also leave them for a full 48 hrs without any grub.

 

I mince nothing, aslong as the bones are completely raw your dog wont have any problems, bones are one of the best parts of a BARF diet IMHO. My dogs are wormed every 3 months religiously and I try to alternate using either Milbemax or Drontal.

 

Im not saying what I do is 100% right but my dogs seem to be doing ok

Edited May 1, 2011 by redcharge

[Aaron_butcher 17]

thanks alot. so even with thing like chicken just put it in the bowl, do the bones not splinter and cause problems?

[redcharge 378]

thanks alot. so even with thing like chicken just put it in the bowl, do the bones not splinter and cause problems?

 

No mate just aslong as they're raw you'll be ok, bones only become brittle and splinter when they are cooked.

[Aaron_butcher 17]

that makes life alot easier, i was worried id have to shell out on some expensive blender! and i read on the net that i shouldnt mix it in with the dry food for the 'switch over' i should just starve the dog for a day and put him straight on the raw because of something to do with digestion rates, is that about right? thanks again.

[iworkwhippets 12,596]

thanks alot. so even with thing like chicken just put it in the bowl, do the bones not splinter and cause problems?

 

 

chicken wing

[iworkwhippets 12,596]

thanks alot. so even with thing like chicken just put it in the bowl, do the bones not splinter and cause problems?

 

 

chicken wing

[inan 841]

I know this topic has probably been done to death but after trawling through pages and pages of topics I've still not found the answers I'm looking for.

I'm looking to swap my dog from his dry greyhound beta diet to a complete raw diet. But would anyone mind giving me a complete breakdown of what they give thier dogs throughout the week with amounts as a template for me to start from. Ie: monday morning - mince beef.........monday evening - chicken etc etc.

Also, at my local pet shop they have frozen chicken wings and other frozen raw meats for dogs, would these have to be minced up into a fine pulp to avoid choking or is it the same story as the ferrets and just throw it in?

And lastly does worming need to be made more frequent?

Thanks very much for any input, Aaron.

Hi A, Ive recently got a free source for chicken carcasses,I feed them raw, along with rabbit, [which I am now running out of due to the time of year ,] and any other game. The chicken is good because it has some fat in it ,whereas the rabbit is virtually fat free.

I give the rabbits with the jacket off, and paunched ,after leaving them in the freezer for 3 weeks to kill any tape worm cysts. I feed the bunnies with the heads and feet on.

I cook any giblets with a few eggs, pasta, drop of oil,small amount of gravy granules. I supplement this with a couple of tins of pilchards in tomato sauce, a week.I chuck any extra veg in with the giblets and make a thick broth with it, half water and half soya milk. Give the dog a cod liver oil cap a day and away you go. Chicken wings,thighs will be fine raw ,but try and get a source from a butcher where he will give you all the waste bones ect he has to get rid of, maybe make a deal? ie ,exchange rabbits for the carcasses.

That's what I do. The butcher gave me 8 pheasant carcasses but the dogs would not eat them raw so I put them in the slow cooker with a couple of stock cubes then sieved the bones out. A tray of cheap eggs is a good supplement, you can get soya milk for 65/70p a litre, any fish is good I give a few bunnies etc to mates ,they reply with pouting, whiting.etc

 

Where you are should be good for fish opportunities.

When feeding bones, just avoid the big load bearing ones ,as they can crack teeth, breast of lamb ribs ,etc are great, but keep an eye on their stools as they can quickly get constipated with the bones, if this happens just lay off for a couple of days ,give them the cartilage type of raw barf.Or you can usually get Cow and Pigs hearts pretty reasonable. Liver fed raw ,usually acts as a laxative , cooked the opposite .

Beware the frozen mince for dogs it's usually soaked in water, and is mostly low grade meat anyway, you end up paying for something that is 40% water.

Feed raw when you can, and the main thing is to try and establish that contact with a local butcher, most are glad to get rid of their waste ,okay you will probably have some stuff you can't use ,but it's free.,if you have too much, as some times happens ,share with another local dog man.

Keep in touch Inan.

Edited May 4, 2011 by inan

[iworkwhippets 12,596]

I know this topic has probably been done to death but after trawling through pages and pages of topics I've still not found the answers I'm looking for.

I'm looking to swap my dog from his dry greyhound beta diet to a complete raw diet. But would anyone mind giving me a complete breakdown of what they give thier dogs throughout the week with amounts as a template for me to start from. Ie: monday morning - mince beef.........monday evening - chicken etc etc.

Also, at my local pet shop they have frozen chicken wings and other frozen raw meats for dogs, would these have to be minced up into a fine pulp to avoid choking or is it the same story as the ferrets and just throw it in?

And lastly does worming need to be made more frequent?

Thanks very much for any input, Aaron.

Hi A, Ive recently got a free source for chicken carcasses,I feed them raw, along with rabbit, [which I am now running out of due to the time of year ,] and any other game. The chicken is good because it has some fat in it ,whereas the rabbit is virtually fat free.

I give the rabbits with the jacket off, and paunched ,after leaving them in the freezer for 3 weeks to kill any tape worm cysts. I feed the bunnies with the heads and feet on.

I cook any giblets with a few eggs, pasta, drop of oil,small amount of gravy granules. I supplement this with a couple of tins of pilchards in tomato sauce, a week.I chuck any extra veg in with the giblets and make a thick broth with it, half water and half soya milk. Give the dog a cod liver oil cap a day and away you go. Chicken wings,thighs will be fine raw ,but try and get a source from a butcher where he will give you all the waste bones ect he has to get rid of, maybe make a deal? ie ,exchange rabbits for the carcasses.

That's what I do. The butcher gave me 8 pheasant carcasses but the dogs would not eat them raw so I put them in the slow cooker with a couple of stock cubes then sieved the bones out. A tray of cheap eggs is a good supplement, you can get soya milk for 65/70p a litre, any fish is good I give a few bunnies etc to mates ,they reply with pouting, whiting.etc

 

Where you are should be good for fish opportunities.

When feeding bones, just avoid the big load bearing ones ,as they can crack teeth, breast of lamb ribs ,etc are great, but keep an eye on their stools as they can quickly get constipated with the bones, if this happens just lay off for a couple of days ,give them the cartilage type of raw barf.Or you can usually get Cow and Pigs hearts pretty reasonable. Liver fed raw ,usually acts as a laxative , cooked the opposite .

Beware the frozen mince for dogs it's usually soaked in water, and is mostly low grade meat anyway, you end up paying for something that is 40% water.

Feed raw when you can, and the main thing is to try and establish that contact with a local butcher, most are glad to get rid of their waste ,okay you will probably have some stuff you can't use ,but it's free.,if you have too much, as some times happens ,share with another local dog man.

Keep in touch Inan.

 

Good post. thank you

[ade33uk 86]

inan is spot on there , basically thats the same way i feed mine , I also give them some plain terrier biscuit one day a week this helps with the constapation problem before it crops up .

[airbourne 128]

mine gets chicken wing,tinned sardines in sunflower oil, minced beef, veg, liver, and beta greyhound dried, and if i say so my self she is in fantastic condition.

[moonlighter 1,164]

Good post inan, mine too turn there nose up at pheasant and goose and ducks and stuff! Shame really as there easy to come by.

[jimster68 123]

arron ,not sure if this is the answer your looking for but here goes ,if your gog weighs about 50lb depending on what you feeding i would start by giving the dog about 1 1/2 lb of meat a day , every morning 3/4 lb chicken mince every evening 3/4 lb other meat ,lamb,beef ,tripe ,what ever you can get from you supplier ,2 times per week add a bit of oily fish i feed pilchards in tomato sause, one day per week give an egg raw with shell on ,2 days per week add offal meat ,kidney or liver (cut up a piece about 2inches square and add to mince ).if you like you can add a bit of veg or left over food wast but not to much ,try this for a week or so .if your dog drops weight or puts weight on just feed a little more or less every day until you get the balance right.its that easy and after a couple of weeks you will wonder what you were worrying about ,ive got a pup nearly 9 months old and hes never eaten any tinned or dried food and he looks great on it my other dogs have been eating this way for nearly 3 years and look great . just remember a few rules when raw feeding ,the chicken mince should contain bone ,you should feed offal meet twice per week ,egg once a week ,if you give bones only give weight bearing bones for ten fifteen mins at a time ,your dog can eat things like lamb ribs ,chicken wings ,rabbit ,ox tail , as with any type of feeding there is always a risk ,if your dog wolfs his food down i would avoid chicken wings and rabbit carcass unless there minced first ,theres some good sites on line and durham animal feeds have a pretty good one ....hope this helps JIM

[BORDERSCOT 3,816]

Dont think BARF diets are an exact science mate, my dogs are between 50lb - 60lb and they get around 3lb of meat a day either chicken carcasses, beef tripe, beef mince and meaty lamb bones when I can source them. I also started to give them Eukanuba a couple of times a week about 6 months ago and have seen a difference in them since I've been doing this. Once every 2 weeks I also leave them for a full 48 hrs without any grub.

 

I mince nothing, aslong as the bones are completely raw your dog wont have any problems, bones are one of the best parts of a BARF diet IMHO. My dogs are wormed every 3 months religiously and I try to alternate using either Milbemax or Drontal.

 

Im not saying what I do is 100% right but my dogs seem to be doing ok

 

 

Not sure I agree with leaving your dog for a full 2 days without anything to eat???? Have heard of folk feeding 6 days out of 7 which would be 24 hours without food but 48 hours at one time seems an awful long time? Anyone else do this??