tommydeer 2 Posted April 29, 2011 Report Share Posted April 29, 2011 This is my cocker dog who's rising two now, bred with more FTCH than ive had hot dinners and probably the best dog i'll ever own, my only problem with him is that he wants to please toomuch, maybe not a bad thing...but im worried because he hunts so hard, he looks about done by the third drive. i know thats there nature but is there anything other than change food that would calm him slightly.....he's not getting the snip before anyone asks! Regards Tom Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted April 29, 2011 Report Share Posted April 29, 2011 nothing much you can do mate ... the dog has been bred from a long line of FTCH that are bred to smash cover and work flat out for short periods of time whilst being judged ... you would have been better off just getting a dog from normal working stock ... i have a little black bitch here that has 41 FTCH in her 5 generation pedigree and she is exactly the same as your dog ..... Quote Link to post
tommydeer 2 Posted April 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2011 nothing much you can do mate ... the dog has been bred from a long line of FTCH that are bred to smash cover and work flat out for short periods of time whilst being judged ... you would have been better off just getting a dog from normal working stock ... i have a little black bitch here that has 41 FTCH in her 5 generation pedigree and she is exactly the same as your dog ..... I did think the same, but just wanted in confirmed. Thing is, i wouldnt changed his style for the world, yes maybe a more "normal bred" dog would have been better for long days, but im sure once crossed back over, i should get something Quote Link to post
danw 1,748 Posted April 29, 2011 Report Share Posted April 29, 2011 All I would say is think of how you are working him many handlers have the dog hunt cover that the dog knows fine well has no game yet the handler insists on sending the dog in trust his nose and don't be afraid to hold him back a little so long as he is on good grub and is fit you shouldn't have too many problems 1 Quote Link to post
eddie1 2 Posted April 29, 2011 Report Share Posted April 29, 2011 This is my cocker dog who's rising two now, bred with more FTCH than ive had hot dinners and probably the best dog i'll ever own, my only problem with him is that he wants to please toomuch, maybe not a bad thing...but im worried because he hunts so hard, he looks about done by the third drive. i know thats there nature but is there anything other than change food that would calm him slightly.....he's not getting the snip before anyone asks! Regards Tom socks sounds about right i,ve heard it said a few times keep away from ftch if your looking for working/beating cocker . Quote Link to post
samurai 178 Posted April 29, 2011 Report Share Posted April 29, 2011 Bloody hell i could have wrote that!, same age, high FTCH breeding even looks the bloody same not from same litter are they?,carry on mate i think he will cool down as he gets older, hopefully lol. Quote Link to post
timber 90 Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 This is my cocker dog who's rising two now, bred with more FTCH than ive had hot dinners and probably the best dog i'll ever own, my only problem with him is that he wants to please toomuch, maybe not a bad thing...but im worried because he hunts so hard, he looks about done by the third drive. i know thats there nature but is there anything other than change food that would calm him slightly.....he's not getting the snip before anyone asks! Regards Tom what lines is he from ?? sire / dam , he's a good looker Quote Link to post
spec 45 Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 All I would say is think of how you are working him many handlers have the dog hunt cover that the dog knows fine well has no game yet the handler insists on sending the dog in <U>trust his nose and don't be afraid to hold him back a little</U> so long as he is on good grub and is fit you shouldn't have too many problems agree with this comment 100%- work hard on pacing him, cos he sure as hell ain't gonna pace himself! Quote Link to post
tommydeer 2 Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 This is my cocker dog who's rising two now, bred with more FTCH than ive had hot dinners and probably the best dog i'll ever own, my only problem with him is that he wants to please toomuch, maybe not a bad thing...but im worried because he hunts so hard, he looks about done by the third drive. i know thats there nature but is there anything other than change food that would calm him slightly.....he's not getting the snip before anyone asks! Regards Tom what lines is he from ?? sire / dam , he's a good looker He's out of Dardnell dealer with Chyknell gold star the sire of the dam. Many thanks for the replys, certainly makes sense with regards pacing him. Quote Link to post
stroller 341 Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 Socks has got it, your dog has been bred to be as he is. keep him fit and fed and enjoy your time together Quote Link to post
2434me 13 Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 I had the same problem a few years back! My mate described him as "A stick of dynamite".LOLOL A great little dog but too much for me to handle. He ended up with a friend of mine who was still young enough to keep up with him ! LOL Quote Link to post
the beater 5 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Bloody hell i could have wrote that!, same age, high FTCH breeding even looks the bloody same not from same litter are they?,carry on mate i think he will cool down as he gets older, hopefully lol. yes good luck, i have a 7 year old spaniel that still works flat out on every drive, someetimes doing the same bit of cover 3 times just for the sake of it. she loves it.. Quote Link to post
nercwys 10 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Could it be to much protein in his diet. I was told to do this with my mad spaniel and i can honestly say it slightly slowed him down.was on 22% and now on 18%. Give it a go mate it might work. Quote Link to post
fert 0 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 i have seen a lot of cockers fade after dinner even people working one in the morning and bringing another one out after lunch. i was very carefull when i got my cocker has ftch in her pedagree but keeper bred worker to worker i have worked her hard for 4/5 days on a trot and shes still buzzing around Quote Link to post
kiwi 4 Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 This is my cocker dog who's rising two now, bred with more FTCH than ive had hot dinners and probably the best dog i'll ever own, my only problem with him is that he wants to please toomuch, maybe not a bad thing...but im worried because he hunts so hard, he looks about done by the third drive. i know thats there nature but is there anything other than change food that would calm him slightly.....he's not getting the snip before anyone asks! Regards Tom mate, [bANNED TEXT] an awesome dog.............wanna sell him to a new zealand home ? Quote Link to post
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