number of hares

[iceman001979 1,316]

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:40, scothunter said:

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:37, iceman001979 said:

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:32, itsme said:

i run the fens pre ban for over 30 yrs and seen all dogs catch hares on them from pure salukis to labradors,but please dont dish these dogs as it takes a special dog to catch a fen hare

No one saying the fen hare is special but must have something if the best dogs in the country are getting tested on it any how that not what am saying.

I say it again do you think that a dog that just runs the big fields off England can go up to Scotland and catch hares with wall, gates ,ditches, fences etc etc in its way.

 

possibly a few,but think there would be a fair few going back over the border with some injurys.

See that what l was thinking seen few clips now off dogs running fens or big fields of England and anything in there way they slow right down.

If they where to slow down like that over here the hare be though the next two ditches before the dog has time to think where did it go.

But l would not say there be many off the fne dogs that would be used to wallls gates pens ditches hedges and that

[TOMO 27,108]

ITS on to salukis and the fens again its all baws fault.

 

im pretty shure that the fen boys yoused to go to scotland regular on one of the big estates, and kill an aufull lot of hares

[itsme 7]

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:48, TOMO said:

ITS on to salukis and the fens again its all baws fault.

 

im pretty shure that the fen boys yoused to go to scotland regular on one of the big estates, and kill an aufull lot of hares

we didnt kill alot in the day time though

brown hares

Edited April 28, 2011 by itsme

[iceman001979 1,316]

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:48, TOMO said:

ITS on to salukis and the fens again its all baws fault.

 

im pretty shure that the fen boys yoused to go to scotland regular on one of the big estates, and kill an aufull lot of hares

Seen dvd off a lot lads on big estate up scotland loads white hares killed that much there was wee 4x4 going about picking them up.

[bendrover 556]

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:48, TOMO said:

ITS on to salukis and the fens again its all baws fault.

 

im pretty shure that the fen boys yoused to go to scotland regular on one of the big estates, and kill an aufull lot of hares

you would be correct mate,but the question i asked was in ayrshire.not in the lothians

[baw 4,360]

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:47, snoopdog said:

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:44, baw said:

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:41, itsme said:

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:37, iceman001979 said:

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:32, itsme said:

i run the fens pre ban for over 30 yrs and seen all dogs catch hares on them from pure salukis to labradors,but please dont dish these dogs as it takes a special dog to catch a fen hare

No one saying the fen hare is special but must have something if the best dogs in the country are getting tested on it any how that not what am saying.

I say it again do you think that a dog that just runs the big fields off England can go up to Scotland and catch hares with wall, gates ,ditches, fences etc etc in its way.

 

a fen dog would be shit up in scotland the hare would be a way and gone why the fen dog thinking of it pre ban

 

Exactly mate. Stamina isn't the first quality you need up here. If a dog can't go up the gears quick, forget it.

 

 

so your both saying a a dog bred for the fens with at least 3/4 saluki in it wouldnt have a chance in scotland..?

 

There is always an exeption to the rule snoopy. I've seen saluki dogs catch hares in Scotland, don't want to admit that but I have lol. But your fen dog is bred for different style of running if you ask me. Kind of plodder...

[itsme 7]

i seen snoops dog run its not a bad sort,but not a world beater.but if anyone wants to pay for my fuel and a bit of beer money for me to come on to the fens i will show em a proper dog run

Edited April 28, 2011 by itsme

[bendrover 556]

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:53, baw said:

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:47, snoopdog said:

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:44, baw said:

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:41, itsme said:

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:37, iceman001979 said:

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:32, itsme said:

i run the fens pre ban for over 30 yrs and seen all dogs catch hares on them from pure salukis to labradors,but please dont dish these dogs as it takes a special dog to catch a fen hare

No one saying the fen hare is special but must have something if the best dogs in the country are getting tested on it any how that not what am saying.

I say it again do you think that a dog that just runs the big fields off England can go up to Scotland and catch hares with wall, gates ,ditches, fences etc etc in its way.

 

a fen dog would be shit up in scotland the hare would be a way and gone why the fen dog thinking of it pre ban

 

Exactly mate. Stamina isn't the first quality you need up here. If a dog can't go up the gears quick, forget it.

 

 

so your both saying a a dog bred for the fens with at least 3/4 saluki in it wouldnt have a chance in scotland..?

 

There is always an exeption to the rule snoopy. I've seen saluki dogs catch hares in Scotland, don't want to admit that but I have lol. But your fen dog is bred for different style of running if you ask me. Kind of plodder...

47 antis.HELLO

[baw 4,360]

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:48, TOMO said:

ITS on to salukis and the fens again its all baws fault.

 

im pretty shure that the fen boys yoused to go to scotland regular on one of the big estates, and kill an aufull lot of hares

 

Oh aye, blame the idiot As Benny says, different area fen boys know how to ruin a thread, we'll have airwolf baldrick on in a minute

[iceman001979 1,316]

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:55, itsme said:

i seen snoops dog run its not a bad sort,but not a world beater.but if anyone wants to pay for my fuel and a bit of beer money for me to come on to the fens i will show em a proper dog run

Itsme take your from Scotland because no flag up cant tell.Is your dogs not out off English stuff????

[Ideation 8,216]

Right, i know very little about hare coursing, but here's my take. The fens are a big flat bit of land right? And the hares that live on there, have no cover, and nowhere really to run, so the only defense they have is flat out speed and running agility. Coursing dogs are bred to run, rather than to hunt (although i'm sure many can). And the best 'running' quarry is going to be the hare that has to survive (over generations) on the flat land with only running as a defense. And so you pit the top runner against top runner, purely for the chance to see them try to out run each other.

 

Now when it comes to hares other places, it's not just flat out speed/stamina, it's use of the environment, so a hare just have other attributes, rather than just be a finely crafted running body and brain, and so does the dog.

 

So that's why fen hares are so respected, and why folk who's dogs run other land look at it as 'easier' in some senses, and the folk who run fens, look at the hares and see less of a runner, so less of a challenge.

 

But then i'm maybe wrong.

[snoopdog 1,256]

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:53, baw said:

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:47, snoopdog said:

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:44, baw said:

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:41, itsme said:

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:37, iceman001979 said:

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:32, itsme said:

i run the fens pre ban for over 30 yrs and seen all dogs catch hares on them from pure salukis to labradors,but please dont dish these dogs as it takes a special dog to catch a fen hare

No one saying the fen hare is special but must have something if the best dogs in the country are getting tested on it any how that not what am saying.

I say it again do you think that a dog that just runs the big fields off England can go up to Scotland and catch hares with wall, gates ,ditches, fences etc etc in its way.

 

a fen dog would be shit up in scotland the hare would be a way and gone why the fen dog thinking of it pre ban

 

Exactly mate. Stamina isn't the first quality you need up here. If a dog can't go up the gears quick, forget it.

 

 

so your both saying a a dog bred for the fens with at least 3/4 saluki in it wouldnt have a chance in scotland..?

 

There is always an exeption to the rule snoopy. I've seen saluki dogs catch hares in Scotland, don't want to admit that but I have lol. But your fen dog is bred for different style of running if you ask me. Kind of plodder...

lolol...

[iceman001979 1,316]

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:56, bendrover said:

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:53, baw said:

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:47, snoopdog said:

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:44, baw said:

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:41, itsme said:

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:37, iceman001979 said:

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:32, itsme said:

i run the fens pre ban for over 30 yrs and seen all dogs catch hares on them from pure salukis to labradors,but please dont dish these dogs as it takes a special dog to catch a fen hare

No one saying the fen hare is special but must have something if the best dogs in the country are getting tested on it any how that not what am saying.

I say it again do you think that a dog that just runs the big fields off England can go up to Scotland and catch hares with wall, gates ,ditches, fences etc etc in its way.

 

a fen dog would be shit up in scotland the hare would be a way and gone why the fen dog thinking of it pre ban

 

Exactly mate. Stamina isn't the first quality you need up here. If a dog can't go up the gears quick, forget it.

 

 

so your both saying a a dog bred for the fens with at least 3/4 saluki in it wouldnt have a chance in scotland..?

 

There is always an exeption to the rule snoopy. I've seen saluki dogs catch hares in Scotland, don't want to admit that but I have lol. But your fen dog is bred for different style of running if you ask me. Kind of plodder...

47 antis.HELLO

Ask them do they have any dogs can run up in Scotland and down in England

[itsme 7]

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:58, iceman001979 said:

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:55, itsme said:

i seen snoops dog run its not a bad sort,but not a world beater.but if anyone wants to pay for my fuel and a bit of beer money for me to come on to the fens i will show em a proper dog run

Itsme take your from Scotland because no flag up cant tell.Is your dogs not out off English stuff????

it is out of english stuff,but been watchin this royal weddin stuff on tv,and you be suprised where and what things are related to

[scothunter 12,609]

  On 28/04/2011 at 19:58, Ideation said:

Right, i know very little about hare coursing, but here's my take. The fens are a big flat bit of land right? And the hares that live on there, have no cover, and nowhere really to run, so the only defense they have is flat out speed and running agility. Coursing dogs are bred to run, rather than to hunt (although i'm sure many can). And the best 'running' quarry is going to be the hare that has to survive (over generations) on the flat land with only running as a defense. And so you pit the top runner against top runner, purely for the chance to see them try to out run each other.

 

Now when it comes to hares other places, it's not just flat out speed/stamina, it's use of the environment, so a hare just have other attributes, rather than just be a finely crafted running body and brain, and so does the dog.

 

So that's why fen hares are so respected, and why folk who's dogs run other land look at it as 'easier' in some senses, and the folk who run fens, look at the hares and see less of a runner, so less of a challenge.

 

But then i'm maybe wrong.

 

that prob just about sums it up.