Casso 1,261 Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 A dog that dont hit the hedge is lacking in heart, one of the best qualities in a running dog and something that cant be replaced with speed or brains in my experience, If your dogs had more speed and brains they wouldn't have to hit the hedge. My 2 both go into the hedge but not full force and I'm glad for it. I've had a few injuries and if I had my choice I'd prefer they let it be and move on to the next one. No quarry is worth a dead or injured dog. agree 100%, there's no need for PTS crap or thick dogs round here the land sorts them out just fine. had to retire my old boy after moving here for that exact reason round here he wouldn't of been dying from old age that I know for sure Thats right mate if people brought there do or die dogs round here I'd say a fair few would be carrying them home.Steady and clever puts game in the bag round here. hunted with welsh boys before over here, steady all right , not sure bout the clever , a good dog is a good dog in anybody's field ,here there where ever, seems to be a train of thought that a committed dog is like a headless chicken, and maybe in the wrong hands he is, but a dog with plenty of drive with the right handler are terrific combo, a gobshite with a steady dog is still a accident waiting to happen , a dog in drive learns quicker then ever, steady dogs see the hedge as a negetive and braver dogs see it as a positive through experience, its the positive outlook in a runner im after , a dog that can turn the problem into the answer, its a state of mind which will affect how it see's the world , its the positive outlook in the dog is what effects his ability more than anything, its a attitude i like and can get the most out of a dog with, a cautious dog is a dog that sees the negetive everywhere, not just at the hedge in the rest of its hunting and in its dealing with situations, yous Welsh boys are welcome over anytime, had some of the best times with dogs hunting with lads from the valleys, best of luck Quote Link to post
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 A dog that dont hit the hedge is lacking in heart, one of the best qualities in a running dog and something that cant be replaced with speed or brains in my experience, If your dogs had more speed and brains they wouldn't have to hit the hedge. My 2 both go into the hedge but not full force and I'm glad for it. I've had a few injuries and if I had my choice I'd prefer they let it be and move on to the next one. No quarry is worth a dead or injured dog. agree 100%, there's no need for PTS crap or thick dogs round here the land sorts them out just fine. had to retire my old boy after moving here for that exact reason round here he wouldn't of been dying from old age that I know for sure Thats right mate if people brought there do or die dogs round here I'd say a fair few would be carrying them home.Steady and clever puts game in the bag round here. hunted with welsh boys before over here, steady all right , not sure bout the clever , a good dog is a good dog in anybody's field ,here there where ever, seems to be a train of thought that a committed dog is like a headless chicken, and maybe in the wrong hands he is, but a dog with plenty of drive with the right handler are terrific combo, a gobshite with a steady dog is still a accident waiting to happen , a dog in drive learns quicker then ever, steady dogs see the hedge as a negetive and braver dogs see it as a positive through experience, its the positive outlook in a runner im after , a dog that can turn the problem into the answer, its a state of mind which will affect how it see's the world , its the positive outlook in the dog is what effects his ability more than anything, its a attitude i like and can get the most out of a dog with, a cautious dog is a dog that sees the negetive everywhere, not just at the hedge in the rest of its hunting and in its dealing with situations, yous Welsh boys are welcome over anytime, had some of the best times with dogs hunting with lads from the valleys, best of luck Is that directed at me? Quote Link to post
Casso 1,261 Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 A dog that dont hit the hedge is lacking in heart, one of the best qualities in a running dog and something that cant be replaced with speed or brains in my experience, If your dogs had more speed and brains they wouldn't have to hit the hedge. My 2 both go into the hedge but not full force and I'm glad for it. I've had a few injuries and if I had my choice I'd prefer they let it be and move on to the next one. No quarry is worth a dead or injured dog. agree 100%, there's no need for PTS crap or thick dogs round here the land sorts them out just fine. had to retire my old boy after moving here for that exact reason round here he wouldn't of been dying from old age that I know for sure Thats right mate if people brought there do or die dogs round here I'd say a fair few would be carrying them home.Steady and clever puts game in the bag round here. hunted with welsh boys before over here, steady all right , not sure bout the clever , a good dog is a good dog in anybody's field ,here there where ever, seems to be a train of thought that a committed dog is like a headless chicken, and maybe in the wrong hands he is, but a dog with plenty of drive with the right handler are terrific combo, a gobshite with a steady dog is still a accident waiting to happen , a dog in drive learns quicker then ever, steady dogs see the hedge as a negetive and braver dogs see it as a positive through experience, its the positive outlook in a runner im after , a dog that can turn the problem into the answer, its a state of mind which will affect how it see's the world , its the positive outlook in the dog is what effects his ability more than anything, its a attitude i like and can get the most out of a dog with, a cautious dog is a dog that sees the negetive everywhere, not just at the hedge in the rest of its hunting and in its dealing with situations, yous Welsh boys are welcome over anytime, had some of the best times with dogs hunting with lads from the valleys, best of luck Is that directed at me? no its not bud,just making a comparsion, i dont come on here to insult people, just to knock heads with like minded folk, if you took any offence i sorry, im too long in the tooth and been through too much to bother with insulting people just because they dont agree with what i put on here,, Quote Link to post
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 A dog that dont hit the hedge is lacking in heart, one of the best qualities in a running dog and something that cant be replaced with speed or brains in my experience, If your dogs had more speed and brains they wouldn't have to hit the hedge. My 2 both go into the hedge but not full force and I'm glad for it. I've had a few injuries and if I had my choice I'd prefer they let it be and move on to the next one. No quarry is worth a dead or injured dog. agree 100%, there's no need for PTS crap or thick dogs round here the land sorts them out just fine. had to retire my old boy after moving here for that exact reason round here he wouldn't of been dying from old age that I know for sure Thats right mate if people brought there do or die dogs round here I'd say a fair few would be carrying them home.Steady and clever puts game in the bag round here. hunted with welsh boys before over here, steady all right , not sure bout the clever , a good dog is a good dog in anybody's field ,here there where ever, seems to be a train of thought that a committed dog is like a headless chicken, and maybe in the wrong hands he is, but a dog with plenty of drive with the right handler are terrific combo, a gobshite with a steady dog is still a accident waiting to happen , a dog in drive learns quicker then ever, steady dogs see the hedge as a negetive and braver dogs see it as a positive through experience, its the positive outlook in a runner im after , a dog that can turn the problem into the answer, its a state of mind which will affect how it see's the world , its the positive outlook in the dog is what effects his ability more than anything, its a attitude i like and can get the most out of a dog with, a cautious dog is a dog that sees the negetive everywhere, not just at the hedge in the rest of its hunting and in its dealing with situations, yous Welsh boys are welcome over anytime, had some of the best times with dogs hunting with lads from the valleys, best of luck Is that directed at me? no its not bud,just making a comparsion, i dont come on here to insult people, just to knock heads with like minded folk, if you took any offence i sorry, im too long in the tooth and been through too much to bother with insulting people just because they dont agree with what i put on here,, No probs mate my kids are driving me mad and I'm a little sensitive today. What I was refering to is the land that I usually work it isn't the hedges that are the problems it's more whats in them,I work a lot of old colliery reclaimed ground which as loads of hidden dangers.My old bitch knows all about these dangers and works well around them though she's probably not everybodies cup of tea she suits the ground I work 90% of the time very well. I understand what your saying mate but I've yet to see a committed dog go over a quarry ledge around here and turn that problem around. 1 Quote Link to post
Casso 1,261 Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 A dog that dont hit the hedge is lacking in heart, one of the best qualities in a running dog and something that cant be replaced with speed or brains in my experience, If your dogs had more speed and brains they wouldn't have to hit the hedge. My 2 both go into the hedge but not full force and I'm glad for it. I've had a few injuries and if I had my choice I'd prefer they let it be and move on to the next one. No quarry is worth a dead or injured dog. agree 100%, there's no need for PTS crap or thick dogs round here the land sorts them out just fine. had to retire my old boy after moving here for that exact reason round here he wouldn't of been dying from old age that I know for sure Thats right mate if people brought there do or die dogs round here I'd say a fair few would be carrying them home.Steady and clever puts game in the bag round here. hunted with welsh boys before over here, steady all right , not sure bout the clever , a good dog is a good dog in anybody's field ,here there where ever, seems to be a train of thought that a committed dog is like a headless chicken, and maybe in the wrong hands he is, but a dog with plenty of drive with the right handler are terrific combo, a gobshite with a steady dog is still a accident waiting to happen , a dog in drive learns quicker then ever, steady dogs see the hedge as a negetive and braver dogs see it as a positive through experience, its the positive outlook in a runner im after , a dog that can turn the problem into the answer, its a state of mind which will affect how it see's the world , its the positive outlook in the dog is what effects his ability more than anything, its a attitude i like and can get the most out of a dog with, a cautious dog is a dog that sees the negetive everywhere, not just at the hedge in the rest of its hunting and in its dealing with situations, yous Welsh boys are welcome over anytime, had some of the best times with dogs hunting with lads from the valleys, best of luck Is that directed at me? no its not bud,just making a comparsion, i dont come on here to insult people, just to knock heads with like minded folk, if you took any offence i sorry, im too long in the tooth and been through too much to bother with insulting people just because they dont agree with what i put on here,, No probs mate my kids are driving me mad and I'm a little sensitive today. What I was refering to is the land that I usually work it isn't the hedges that are the problems it's more whats in them,I work a lot of old colliery reclaimed ground which as loads of hidden dangers.My old bitch knows all about these dangers and works well around them though she's probably not everybodies cup of tea she suits the ground I work 90% of the time very well. I understand what your saying mate but I've yet to see a committed dog go over a quarry ledge around here and turn that problem around. ok thats cleared things up , the quarry thing put a very different slant on it, i have this mental image of the dog in mid air turning round and swearing at me, 1 Quote Link to post
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 A dog that dont hit the hedge is lacking in heart, one of the best qualities in a running dog and something that cant be replaced with speed or brains in my experience, If your dogs had more speed and brains they wouldn't have to hit the hedge. My 2 both go into the hedge but not full force and I'm glad for it. I've had a few injuries and if I had my choice I'd prefer they let it be and move on to the next one. No quarry is worth a dead or injured dog. agree 100%, there's no need for PTS crap or thick dogs round here the land sorts them out just fine. had to retire my old boy after moving here for that exact reason round here he wouldn't of been dying from old age that I know for sure Thats right mate if people brought there do or die dogs round here I'd say a fair few would be carrying them home.Steady and clever puts game in the bag round here. hunted with welsh boys before over here, steady all right , not sure bout the clever , a good dog is a good dog in anybody's field ,here there where ever, seems to be a train of thought that a committed dog is like a headless chicken, and maybe in the wrong hands he is, but a dog with plenty of drive with the right handler are terrific combo, a gobshite with a steady dog is still a accident waiting to happen , a dog in drive learns quicker then ever, steady dogs see the hedge as a negetive and braver dogs see it as a positive through experience, its the positive outlook in a runner im after , a dog that can turn the problem into the answer, its a state of mind which will affect how it see's the world , its the positive outlook in the dog is what effects his ability more than anything, its a attitude i like and can get the most out of a dog with, a cautious dog is a dog that sees the negetive everywhere, not just at the hedge in the rest of its hunting and in its dealing with situations, yous Welsh boys are welcome over anytime, had some of the best times with dogs hunting with lads from the valleys, best of luck Is that directed at me? no its not bud,just making a comparsion, i dont come on here to insult people, just to knock heads with like minded folk, if you took any offence i sorry, im too long in the tooth and been through too much to bother with insulting people just because they dont agree with what i put on here,, No probs mate my kids are driving me mad and I'm a little sensitive today. What I was refering to is the land that I usually work it isn't the hedges that are the problems it's more whats in them,I work a lot of old colliery reclaimed ground which as loads of hidden dangers.My old bitch knows all about these dangers and works well around them though she's probably not everybodies cup of tea she suits the ground I work 90% of the time very well. I understand what your saying mate but I've yet to see a committed dog go over a quarry ledge around here and turn that problem around. ok thats cleared things up , the quarry thing put a very different slant on it, i have this mental image of the dog in mid air turning round and swearing at me, Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 A dog that dont hit the hedge is lacking in heart, one of the best qualities in a running dog and something that cant be replaced with speed or brains in my experience, If your dogs had more speed and brains they wouldn't have to hit the hedge. My 2 both go into the hedge but not full force and I'm glad for it. I've had a few injuries and if I had my choice I'd prefer they let it be and move on to the next one. No quarry is worth a dead or injured dog. agree 100%, there's no need for PTS crap or thick dogs round here the land sorts them out just fine. had to retire my old boy after moving here for that exact reason round here he wouldn't of been dying from old age that I know for sure Thats right mate if people brought there do or die dogs round here I'd say a fair few would be carrying them home.Steady and clever puts game in the bag round here. hunted with welsh boys before over here, steady all right , not sure bout the clever , a good dog is a good dog in anybody's field ,here there where ever, seems to be a train of thought that a committed dog is like a headless chicken, and maybe in the wrong hands he is, but a dog with plenty of drive with the right handler are terrific combo, a gobshite with a steady dog is still a accident waiting to happen , a dog in drive learns quicker then ever, steady dogs see the hedge as a negetive and braver dogs see it as a positive through experience, its the positive outlook in a runner im after , a dog that can turn the problem into the answer, its a state of mind which will affect how it see's the world , its the positive outlook in the dog is what effects his ability more than anything, its a attitude i like and can get the most out of a dog with, a cautious dog is a dog that sees the negetive everywhere, not just at the hedge in the rest of its hunting and in its dealing with situations, yous Welsh boys are welcome over anytime, had some of the best times with dogs hunting with lads from the valleys, best of luck Is that directed at me? no its not bud,just making a comparsion, i dont come on here to insult people, just to knock heads with like minded folk, if you took any offence i sorry, im too long in the tooth and been through too much to bother with insulting people just because they dont agree with what i put on here,, No probs mate my kids are driving me mad and I'm a little sensitive today. What I was refering to is the land that I usually work it isn't the hedges that are the problems it's more whats in them,I work a lot of old colliery reclaimed ground which as loads of hidden dangers.My old bitch knows all about these dangers and works well around them though she's probably not everybodies cup of tea she suits the ground I work 90% of the time very well. I understand what your saying mate but I've yet to see a committed dog go over a quarry ledge around here and turn that problem around. ok thats cleared things up , the quarry thing put a very different slant on it, i have this mental image of the dog in mid air turning round and swearing at me, Aw I got a wee lump in my throat reading you and Casso's replys to each other very mature and adult and a good example of how things should be conducted where there's a difference of opinion/approach..... I'm away to lie down now as me meds are kicking in Quote Link to post
mighty celt 996 Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 my bitch dont smash hedges after rabbits shel hit them in a sensible manner and stll gets them out r cathes in there.a dog that hits them full out is an accident waiting 2 happen no matter how good a dog man u are u cant predict were that rabbit is going 2 run 2. Quote Link to post
fcuktheban 140 Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 A dog that dont hit the hedge is lacking in heart, one of the best qualities in a running dog and something that cant be replaced with speed or brains in my experience, If your dogs had more speed and brains they wouldn't have to hit the hedge. My 2 both go into the hedge but not full force and I'm glad for it. I've had a few injuries and if I had my choice I'd prefer they let it be and move on to the next one. No quarry is worth a dead or injured dog. agree 100%, there's no need for PTS crap or thick dogs round here the land sorts them out just fine. had to retire my old boy after moving here for that exact reason round here he wouldn't of been dying from old age that I know for sure Thats right mate if people brought there do or die dogs round here I'd say a fair few would be carrying them home.Steady and clever puts game in the bag round here. hunted with welsh boys before over here, steady all right , not sure bout the clever , a good dog is a good dog in anybody's field ,here there where ever, seems to be a train of thought that a committed dog is like a headless chicken, and maybe in the wrong hands he is, but a dog with plenty of drive with the right handler are terrific combo, a gobshite with a steady dog is still a accident waiting to happen , a dog in drive learns quicker then ever, steady dogs see the hedge as a negetive and braver dogs see it as a positive through experience, its the positive outlook in a runner im after , a dog that can turn the problem into the answer, its a state of mind which will affect how it see's the world , its the positive outlook in the dog is what effects his ability more than anything, its a attitude i like and can get the most out of a dog with, a cautious dog is a dog that sees the negetive everywhere, not just at the hedge in the rest of its hunting and in its dealing with situations, yous Welsh boys are welcome over anytime, had some of the best times with dogs hunting with lads from the valleys, best of luck Is that directed at me? no its not bud,just making a comparsion, i dont come on here to insult people, just to knock heads with like minded folk, if you took any offence i sorry, im too long in the tooth and been through too much to bother with insulting people just because they dont agree with what i put on here,, No probs mate my kids are driving me mad and I'm a little sensitive today. What I was refering to is the land that I usually work it isn't the hedges that are the problems it's more whats in them,I work a lot of old colliery reclaimed ground which as loads of hidden dangers.My old bitch knows all about these dangers and works well around them though she's probably not everybodies cup of tea she suits the ground I work 90% of the time very well. I understand what your saying mate but I've yet to see a committed dog go over a quarry ledge around here and turn that problem around. ok thats cleared things up , the quarry thing put a very different slant on it, i have this mental image of the dog in mid air turning round and swearing at me, That would be that last thing his dog would learn... 1 Quote Link to post
pattstaff 157 Posted July 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 A dog that dont hit the hedge is lacking in heart, one of the best qualities in a running dog and something that cant be replaced with speed or brains in my experience, If your dogs had more speed and brains they wouldn't have to hit the hedge. My 2 both go into the hedge but not full force and I'm glad for it. I've had a few injuries and if I had my choice I'd prefer they let it be and move on to the next one. No quarry is worth a dead or injured dog. agree 100%, there's no need for PTS crap or thick dogs round here the land sorts them out just fine. had to retire my old boy after moving here for that exact reason round here he wouldn't of been dying from old age that I know for sure Thats right mate if people brought there do or die dogs round here I'd say a fair few would be carrying them home.Steady and clever puts game in the bag round here. hunted with welsh boys before over here, steady all right , not sure bout the clever , a good dog is a good dog in anybody's field ,here there where ever, seems to be a train of thought that a committed dog is like a headless chicken, and maybe in the wrong hands he is, but a dog with plenty of drive with the right handler are terrific combo, a gobshite with a steady dog is still a accident waiting to happen , a dog in drive learns quicker then ever, steady dogs see the hedge as a negetive and braver dogs see it as a positive through experience, its the positive outlook in a runner im after , a dog that can turn the problem into the answer, its a state of mind which will affect how it see's the world , its the positive outlook in the dog is what effects his ability more than anything, its a attitude i like and can get the most out of a dog with, a cautious dog is a dog that sees the negetive everywhere, not just at the hedge in the rest of its hunting and in its dealing with situations, yous Welsh boys are welcome over anytime, had some of the best times with dogs hunting with lads from the valleys, best of luck Is that directed at me? no its not bud,just making a comparsion, i dont come on here to insult people, just to knock heads with like minded folk, if you took any offence i sorry, im too long in the tooth and been through too much to bother with insulting people just because they dont agree with what i put on here,, No probs mate my kids are driving me mad and I'm a little sensitive today. What I was refering to is the land that I usually work it isn't the hedges that are the problems it's more whats in them,I work a lot of old colliery reclaimed ground which as loads of hidden dangers.My old bitch knows all about these dangers and works well around them though she's probably not everybodies cup of tea she suits the ground I work 90% of the time very well. I understand what your saying mate but I've yet to see a committed dog go over a quarry ledge around here and turn that problem around. ok thats cleared things up , the quarry thing put a very different slant on it, i have this mental image of the dog in mid air turning round and swearing at me, That would be that last thing his dog would learn... Classic Quote Link to post
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