littletimmy 71 Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Serve your country and this is the service your rewarded with. cheers britain 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scalesntails 118 Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Come on guys are you REALLY surprised? Wonder what the pro muslim brigade make of it or are we all being racist again.. Half the people on here probably think I am Pro Muslim. I am in fact anti-religion but pro-choice and believe in freedom of speech. Neither should be illegal the government shouldn't get involved in peoples protests. I believe it should be sorted on a personal level. For example I have should have the freedom to tell 20 stone barefist fighter his mum is a slag but I should expect to take what's coming to me. Most things can be sorted with old fashioned common decency and common sense. People did just fine before the government got involved in everything. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
littletimmy 71 Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Half the people on here probably think I am Pro Muslim. I am in fact anti-religion but pro-choice and believe in freedom of speech. Neither should be illegal the government shouldn't get involved in peoples protests. I believe it should be sorted on a personal level. For example I have should have the freedom to tell 20 stone barefist fighter his mum is a slag but I should expect to take what's coming to me. Most things can be sorted with old fashioned common decency and common sense. People did just fine before the government got involved in everything. Best reply ive seen on THL EVER!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bouncer 51 Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 i hate the b*****ds,they all make me sick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steveS.Yorks 161 Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Well it dont look like any of our own muslim supporters are going to comment on this one? Mind you i would'nt want to try and justify the different sentances,or to put it another way,"explain how burning a quran is a bigger insult than insulting our war dead" people who laid down their lives for freedom. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
coolbreeze 9 Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 enock powell was spot on...... and theres no great in great britain anymore its been sold out along with everything else this once great country stood for if any of us did half the things in a muslim country that those fuckers do here we would be shot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,025 Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 (edited) For example I have should have the freedom to tell 20 stone barefist fighter his mum is a slag but I should expect to take what's coming to me. Most things can be sorted with old fashioned common decency and common sense. So are you saying that 20 stone man should be legally entitled to give you what you deserve ? Because if not it would be fair to say you are using the law to suit yourself......i mean,how many of these pricks would be burning poppies if they knew we could legally stamp all over their face every time they did so....and that is exactly whats likely to happen if i burn the koran in the heart of Bangladesh as i simply wont recieve the protection they recieve here. As regards common sense and decency...our government has no common sense and these muslims have no decency ...worse or better ? Edited April 18, 2011 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackay 3,328 Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 So where are all the muzzy lovers?. They can't all be out delivering kebabs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Seeker 3,048 Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Come on guys are you REALLY surprised? Wonder what the pro muslim brigade make of it or are we all being racist again.. Half the people on here probably think I am Pro Muslim. I am in fact anti-religion but pro-choice and believe in freedom of speech. Neither should be illegal the government shouldn't get involved in peoples protests. I believe it should be sorted on a personal level. For example I have should have the freedom to tell 20 stone barefist fighter his mum is a slag but I should expect to take what's coming to me. Most things can be sorted with old fashioned common decency and common sense. People did just fine before the government got involved in everything. Amen to that BUT there IS a law against inciting violence which is where the law objects to burning the poppy wreath and burning the Koran, the question being asked quite rightly here is why do similar actions result in vastly differing outcomes for the offenders. What is the difference? Easy, one person is a White male the others are Pakistani Muslims. We are so far down the line of trying to accommodate minorities and scared of being racist as a society that we fail to punish the poppy burners with the same amount of wrath as shown to the Koran burner. In my opinion both should have been given the same sentence £50.00 fine or 70 days in jail and what we should be discussing is if the sentences are too lenient or too severe, but that won't happen whilst young so called Muslims are allowed to stand in the street spitting at marching troops yet say anything derogatory against women wearing the burka and your racist. It's just too one sided that's all and people have just had enough of it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steveS.Yorks 161 Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 So where are all the muzzy lovers?. They can't all be out delivering kebabs. If they dont comment on this they should'nt comment on any of the muslim orientated threads simple. Just makes me think they are muslim or the professional appeasers that appear on most sites,part of the propoganda machine? And when they do appear on some other thread i suggest we ask their opinions on this subdject and why none of them commented? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
superfurryanimal 91 Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 this country needs to take a good hard look at it's self i'm sooooo f*****g fed up with the justice system in this country, no wonder we have the e.d.l, w.d.l it's about time we all make a stand ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 this country needs to take a good hard look at it's self i'm sooooo f*****g fed up with the justice system in this country, no wonder we have the e.d.l, w.d.l it's about time we all make a stand ! As someone told me on another thread not so long ago, we have a Legal system not a Justice system. That's why shit laws are made and people sometimes don't get the justice they deserve. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scalesntails 118 Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 For example I have should have the freedom to tell 20 stone barefist fighter his mum is a slag but I should expect to take what's coming to me. Most things can be sorted with old fashioned common decency and common sense. So are you saying that 20 stone man should be legally entitled to give you what you deserve ? Because if not it would be fair to say you are using the law to suit yourself......i mean,how many of these pricks would be burning poppies if they knew we could legally stamp all over their face every time they did so....and that is exactly whats likely to happen if i burn the koran in the heart of Bangladesh as i simply wont recieve the protection they recieve here. As regards common sense and decency...our government has no common sense and these muslims have no decency ...worse or better ? Yes if I called some ones mum a slag I would expect a slap and if the police got involved I would stop them charging the guy as I had it coming I'm saying we should have less regulation. They should be allowed to burn the poppy and you should be entitled to burn a Koran but by doing so they can't prosecute if someone smacks them for it. Kind of like we got a clip round the ear as kids. Of course if the guy burning poppies got attacked by 200 people it would be going to far. I'm not saying my idea is a good one but I like it. Come on guys are you REALLY surprised? Wonder what the pro muslim brigade make of it or are we all being racist again.. Half the people on here probably think I am Pro Muslim. I am in fact anti-religion but pro-choice and believe in freedom of speech. Neither should be illegal the government shouldn't get involved in peoples protests. I believe it should be sorted on a personal level. For example I have should have the freedom to tell 20 stone barefist fighter his mum is a slag but I should expect to take what's coming to me. Most things can be sorted with old fashioned common decency and common sense. People did just fine before the government got involved in everything. Amen to that BUT there IS a law against inciting violence which is where the law objects to burning the poppy wreath and burning the Koran, the question being asked quite rightly here is why do similar actions result in vastly differing outcomes for the offenders. What is the difference? Easy, one person is a White male the others are Pakistani Muslims. We are so far down the line of trying to accommodate minorities and scared of being racist as a society that we fail to punish the poppy burners with the same amount of wrath as shown to the Koran burner. In my opinion both should have been given the same sentence £50.00 fine or 70 days in jail and what we should be discussing is if the sentences are too lenient or too severe, but that won't happen whilst young so called Muslims are allowed to stand in the street spitting at marching troops yet say anything derogatory against women wearing the burka and your racist. It's just too one sided that's all and people have just had enough of it I don't the police/CPS/Government should have got involved in either case. I do agree that one is as offensive as the other depending on your personal beliefs so if the government is going to get involved then the sentence should be equal. The problem is sentences also vary depending on what judge you get and what mood he is in that day. As you say for this type of case there needs to be only 1 sentencing option then it solves any problems of preferential treatment. I suggest the sentence is 300 hours community service helping war veterans or 300 hours helping a muslim charity (if there is such a thing). I'm not pro immigrant, muslim, white, christian or anything I want everyone treated the same. If Muslims are getting preferential treatment I will protest against it and would protest the opposite way in some circumstances. For example I would protest against muslims being banned from shops for being muslim but I wouldn't protest to help them get equal government benefits unless they were born here. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
superfurryanimal 91 Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 For example I have should have the freedom to tell 20 stone barefist fighter his mum is a slag but I should expect to take what's coming to me. Most things can be sorted with old fashioned common decency and common sense. So are you saying that 20 stone man should be legally entitled to give you what you deserve ? Because if not it would be fair to say you are using the law to suit yourself......i mean,how many of these pricks would be burning poppies if they knew we could legally stamp all over their face every time they did so....and that is exactly whats likely to happen if i burn the koran in the heart of Bangladesh as i simply wont recieve the protection they recieve here. As regards common sense and decency...our government has no common sense and these muslims have no decency ...worse or better ? Yes if I called some ones mum a slag I would expect a slap and if the police got involved I would stop them charging the guy as I had it coming I'm saying we should have less regulation. They should be allowed to burn the poppy and you should be entitled to burn a Koran but by doing so they can't prosecute if someone smacks them for it. Kind of like we got a clip round the ear as kids. Of course if the guy burning poppies got attacked by 200 people it would be going to far. I'm not saying my idea is a good one but I like it. Come on guys are you REALLY surprised? Wonder what the pro muslim brigade make of it or are we all being racist again.. Half the people on here probably think I am Pro Muslim. I am in fact anti-religion but pro-choice and believe in freedom of speech. Neither should be illegal the government shouldn't get involved in peoples protests. I believe it should be sorted on a personal level. For example I have should have the freedom to tell 20 stone barefist fighter his mum is a slag but I should expect to take what's coming to me. Most things can be sorted with old fashioned common decency and common sense. People did just fine before the government got involved in everything. Amen to that BUT there IS a law against inciting violence which is where the law objects to burning the poppy wreath and burning the Koran, the question being asked quite rightly here is why do similar actions result in vastly differing outcomes for the offenders. What is the difference? Easy, one person is a White male the others are Pakistani Muslims. We are so far down the line of trying to accommodate minorities and scared of being racist as a society that we fail to punish the poppy burners with the same amount of wrath as shown to the Koran burner. In my opinion both should have been given the same sentence £50.00 fine or 70 days in jail and what we should be discussing is if the sentences are too lenient or too severe, but that won't happen whilst young so called Muslims are allowed to stand in the street spitting at marching troops yet say anything derogatory against women wearing the burka and your racist. It's just too one sided that's all and people have just had enough of it I don't the police/CPS/Government should have got involved in either case. I do agree that one is as offensive as the other depending on your personal beliefs so if the government is going to get involved then the sentence should be equal. The problem is sentences also vary depending on what judge you get and what mood he is in that day. As you say for this type of case there needs to be only 1 sentencing option then it solves any problems of preferential treatment. I suggest the sentence is 300 hours community service helping war veterans or 300 hours helping a muslim charity (if there is such a thing). I'm not pro immigrant, muslim, white, christian or anything I want everyone treated the same. If Muslims are getting preferential treatment I will protest against it and would protest the opposite way in some circumstances. For example I would protest against muslims being banned from shops for being muslim but I wouldn't protest to help them get equal government benefits unless they were born here. they should be allowed to burn the poppy !!! ??? can i ask which planet you've just landed from ? i find your remarks and replys extremely offensive, to think that some of my ancestors were killed in the battle of the somme, and others severed in the navy and deserts rats so you can sit and type away beggers believe ! if you can't get behind our armed forces then go and get your self a gun and stand in front of them ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 ... helping a muslim charity (if there is such a thing). ... Yes there is such a thing and more than one of them in recent times has been found to be funding terrorists. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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