artic 595 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 No matter what keepers rant on at you for ...saying " Stealing my bl**dy birds "etc ..Pheasants are wild birds and belong to no one . On your property they become yours , so it is a really simple matter to catch up sufficient breeding stock from your own area. It is advisable to put out and bait the catcher with wheat for a time beforehand. A four foot square by two foot high cage with an opening one foot high and nine inches wide on each end which will allow the pheasant to move in and out freely while feeding on the grain. After a suitable time of pre-baiting, wire netting funnels can be slipped into the open ends. A sliding door in the roof will facilitate the removal of birds. These cages must be checked on a regular basis, i.e. (intervals of every 4 /6 hours) and the birds removed to avoid stress. Ideally this exercise should be completed by mid February to allow the birds to settle in and get acclimatised to their new living quarters. I'll be down this weekend with a crate and al take your birds back up the road with me then........cheers OK Regards, Muntjak Quote Link to post
foxdigger13 114 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 i think theres just two categories, the guys who respect there dogs and who are in it for the long haul, and then the peddelers, atb fd Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,967 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 AGAIN!!! You need to cool your skin regarding pheasants mate. If you know your pheasants which I think you do, you'll know that us lurcher boys account for a very small percentage of your birds. Cars will take out more in a day than we will in a season. I've seen 7 killed in the one area eating spilled hops from the whisky lorries. you speak for ya self,,,, some of lurcher boys made good coin out the birds years ago,, back in 92 they were £4.50 a brace,,,, good money for someone made redundant cos of pit closures.... and lab tastic can call it theft if he likes,,, but we all know, it aint,,,, you cant compare poaching birds to burgerling somones house . one thing i do agree with him though,,,, i hate running them over,, in fact any animal . its no way for an animal to die Just wondered why you dont think its theft............? i wonder why you do,,,,,, after all even in law its not called "THEFT" its called poaching actualy i do know why,,,, its because you can justify hating someone that "POACHES" pheasnts,,,,, you wouldnt call a rabbit,hare,deer, poacher a thief, would you. Quote Link to post
WILF 47,995 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 No matter what keepers rant on at you for ...saying " Stealing my bl**dy birds "etc ..Pheasants are wild birds and belong to no one . Tell that to the small syndicate lads who are paying £3.75 a poult! lol lol Quote Link to post
uno 62 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 theres us and theres them.fact Quote Link to post
Lab 10,979 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 AGAIN!!! You need to cool your skin regarding pheasants mate. If you know your pheasants which I think you do, you'll know that us lurcher boys account for a very small percentage of your birds. Cars will take out more in a day than we will in a season. I've seen 7 killed in the one area eating spilled hops from the whisky lorries. you speak for ya self,,,, some of lurcher boys made good coin out the birds years ago,, back in 92 they were £4.50 a brace,,,, good money for someone made redundant cos of pit closures.... and lab tastic can call it theft if he likes,,, but we all know, it aint,,,, you cant compare poaching birds to burgerling somones house . one thing i do agree with him though,,,, i hate running them over,, in fact any animal . its no way for an animal to die Just wondered why you dont think its theft............? i wonder why you do,,,,,, after all even in law its not called "THEFT" its called poaching actualy i do know why,,,, its because you can justify hating someone that "POACHES" pheasnts,,,,, you wouldnt call a rabbit,hare,deer, poacher a thief, would you. Rabbits, deer and hares are wild......someone hasn't spent lots of time and money to get them to an age so they will then profit from it like they do with game birds. I couldn't care what the law says about a pheasant being wild when it is released to the woods. The reason people 'steal' pheasants is because they dont like the sort of people(who they think) that are associated with shooting and "its ok to steal of Landowners because they have plenty money" attitude is pretty shite!!!. There are another group of people who steal pheasant poults from the rearing field, would you call them thieves or poachers Tomo....? Quote Link to post
Bogger 243 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 totally agree with you lab if they knew the work that goes into them they wouldnt like it if it was them Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,967 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 AGAIN!!! You need to cool your skin regarding pheasants mate. If you know your pheasants which I think you do, you'll know that us lurcher boys account for a very small percentage of your birds. Cars will take out more in a day than we will in a season. I've seen 7 killed in the one area eating spilled hops from the whisky lorries. you speak for ya self,,,, some of lurcher boys made good coin out the birds years ago,, back in 92 they were £4.50 a brace,,,, good money for someone made redundant cos of pit closures.... and lab tastic can call it theft if he likes,,, but we all know, it aint,,,, you cant compare poaching birds to burgerling somones house . one thing i do agree with him though,,,, i hate running them over,, in fact any animal . its no way for an animal to die Just wondered why you dont think its theft............? i wonder why you do,,,,,, after all even in law its not called "THEFT" its called poaching actualy i do know why,,,, its because you can justify hating someone that "POACHES" pheasnts,,,,, you wouldnt call a rabbit,hare,deer, poacher a thief, would you. Rabbits, deer and hares are wild......someone hasn't spent lots of time and money to get them to an age so they will then profit from it like they do with game birds. I couldn't care what the law says about a pheasant being wild when it is released to the woods. The reason people 'steal' pheasants is because they dont like the sort of people(who they think) that are associated with shooting and "its ok to steal of Landowners because they have plenty money" attitude is pretty shite!!!. There are another group of people who steal pheasant poults from the rearing field, would you call them thieves or poachers Tomo....? that is a good question,,, and one im about to contradict my self on yes i would call that stealing,,,, funnily enough i have no problem with the snobery thing you mention... also i do hear of poults being stolen and usualy other keepers are the culprits. i did train as a keeper a very long time ago,,, and i did go beating till quite reasently, and would never POACH birds of my keeper mates. now i know your going to use the poults thing to prove your point,,,,,,, but what about wild birds, or grouse,,, the only imput you have there is feeding , and ok habitat. but you also have these in deer managment,,, yet you call that poaching Quote Link to post
WILF 47,995 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Everyone knows the crack, bottom line is, as long as you dont shit on your own doorstep or f**k over those keepers that look after you then thats it. Quote Link to post
foxdigger13 114 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 AGAIN!!! You need to cool your skin regarding pheasants mate. If you know your pheasants which I think you do, you'll know that us lurcher boys account for a very small percentage of your birds. Cars will take out more in a day than we will in a season. I've seen 7 killed in the one area eating spilled hops from the whisky lorries. you speak for ya self,,,, some of lurcher boys made good coin out the birds years ago,, back in 92 they were £4.50 a brace,,,, good money for someone made redundant cos of pit closures.... and lab tastic can call it theft if he likes,,, but we all know, it aint,,,, you cant compare poaching birds to burgerling somones house . one thing i do agree with him though,,,, i hate running them over,, in fact any animal . its no way for an animal to die Just wondered why you dont think its theft............? i wonder why you do,,,,,, after all even in law its not called "THEFT" its called poaching actualy i do know why,,,, its because you can justify hating someone that "POACHES" pheasnts,,,,, you wouldnt call a rabbit,hare,deer, poacher a thief, would you. Rabbits, deer and hares are wild......someone hasn't spent lots of time and money to get them to an age so they will then profit from it like they do with game birds. I couldn't care what the law says about a pheasant being wild when it is released to the woods. The reason people 'steal' pheasants is because they dont like the sort of people(who they think) that are associated with shooting and "its ok to steal of Landowners because they have plenty money" attitude is pretty shite!!!. There are another group of people who steal pheasant poults from the rearing field, would you call them thieves or poachers Tomo....? that is a good question,,, and one im about to contradict my self on yes i would call that stealing,,,, funnily enough i have no problem with the snobery thing you mention... also i do hear of poults being stolen and usualy other keepers are the culprits. i did train as a keeper a very long time ago,,, and i did go beating till quite reasently, and would never POACH birds of my keeper mates. now i know your going to use the poults thing to prove your point,,,,,,, but what about wild birds, or grouse,,, the only imput you have there is feeding , and ok habitat. but you also have these in deer managment,,, yet you call that poaching i dont think theres a straight answer here, atb fd Quote Link to post
Lab 10,979 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 AGAIN!!! You need to cool your skin regarding pheasants mate. If you know your pheasants which I think you do, you'll know that us lurcher boys account for a very small percentage of your birds. Cars will take out more in a day than we will in a season. I've seen 7 killed in the one area eating spilled hops from the whisky lorries. you speak for ya self,,,, some of lurcher boys made good coin out the birds years ago,, back in 92 they were £4.50 a brace,,,, good money for someone made redundant cos of pit closures.... and lab tastic can call it theft if he likes,,, but we all know, it aint,,,, you cant compare poaching birds to burgerling somones house . one thing i do agree with him though,,,, i hate running them over,, in fact any animal . its no way for an animal to die Just wondered why you dont think its theft............? i wonder why you do,,,,,, after all even in law its not called "THEFT" its called poaching actualy i do know why,,,, its because you can justify hating someone that "POACHES" pheasnts,,,,, you wouldnt call a rabbit,hare,deer, poacher a thief, would you. Rabbits, deer and hares are wild......someone hasn't spent lots of time and money to get them to an age so they will then profit from it like they do with game birds. I couldn't care what the law says about a pheasant being wild when it is released to the woods. The reason people 'steal' pheasants is because they dont like the sort of people(who they think) that are associated with shooting and "its ok to steal of Landowners because they have plenty money" attitude is pretty shite!!!. There are another group of people who steal pheasant poults from the rearing field, would you call them thieves or poachers Tomo....? that is a good question,,, and one im about to contradict my self on yes i would call that stealing,,,, funnily enough i have no problem with the snobery thing you mention... also i do hear of poults being stolen and usualy other keepers are the culprits. i did train as a keeper a very long time ago,,, and i did go beating till quite reasently, and would never POACH birds of my keeper mates. now i know your going to use the poults thing to prove your point,,,,,,, but what about wild birds, or grouse,,, the only imput you have there is feeding , and ok habitat. but you also have these in deer managment,,, yet you call that poaching I was going too but i wont now....... I suppose its a bit of a selfish view from myself as i dont work with deer but yes people do spend money on deer management and they do have a grump with dog men....but thats there argument not mine. It all boils down to people thinking that every shoot is ran by a big fat millionaire landowner when that is far from the truth, i reckon if the guys that 'poach' pheasants knew that some of the shoots were run by working class lads(like myself) just trying to make a penny or too they would maybe think again before they raped the place dry.... Quote Link to post
artic 595 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 If a person/s dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it, then it's theft. Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,967 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 now that all ended very politely now back to baws thread. the worst of the dogmen,,,,thats easy,,,, definatly scotish coursing men that think they know about the fens Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Shurely pheasant poaching is now becomeing a thing of the past as some of the younger generation that get branded as poachers are more intrested in killing things you carnt do feck all with. Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,967 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 If a person/s dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it, then it's theft. you just looked that up artic ,, its that wording that makes it poaching,,, cos when released there no ones property Quote Link to post
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