shepp 2,285 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 (edited) I blame parents. Teachers are there to teach subjects in the classroom, they are not employed to teach moral values and correct behaviour. That is the job of the people who decided it would be nice to bring that child into the world. You see on TV in places like Africa, they come out of huts with mud floors dressed in clean school uniforms. The classroom is silent and the kids grasp every bit of knowledge they can because they know what real poverty is. They know and appreciate how lucky there are to be getting an education which there family's can go hungry to give them. I guess it's the same with everything, if people are given without it being earnt then they will never value what is given. Too many in this country are so acutely away of there rights and entitlements but have utter disregard for there responsibilities. Edited April 14, 2011 by shepp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twobob 1,497 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 the two "proper" teachers at the school I am in contact with were really pissed off last night.........kids were unruly and not listenin and basically laughin in their faces I couldn't be a teacher because I'd flip and resort to the old "clip around the ear" but I tell ya what......... it worked in my day 'cos we knew our fu.ckin place Absolutely.....too many parents today give it the " dont you touch my little Eric "......as responsible people we should give teachers a little trust in the way they discipline our kids....ok i know its not even an issue now due to the pc madness,but if my kids were back at school,unless my lad came home bashed up then id accept he deserved what a teacher gave him. We had teachers you wouldnt have dared backchat to,one old boy Mr Bishop i still see him today lovely old boy loves his boxing we always have a chat....doesnt mean i wasnt petrified of him as a kid....they just commanded a different respect to what they do now....i know its another " the old ways were the best ways "....but in this instance its hard to see otherwise. Thing is gnasher little eric should know how to behave before he gets to school age 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mad al 146 Posted April 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 the two "proper" teachers at the school I am in contact with were really pissed off last night.........kids were unruly and not listenin and basically laughin in their faces I couldn't be a teacher because I'd flip and resort to the old "clip around the ear" but I tell ya what......... it worked in my day 'cos we knew our fu.ckin place Absolutely.....too many parents today give it the " dont you touch my little Eric "......as responsible people we should give teachers a little trust in the way they discipline our kids....ok i know its not even an issue now due to the pc madness,but if my kids were back at school,unless my lad came home bashed up then id accept he deserved what a teacher gave him. We had teachers you wouldnt have dared backchat to,one old boy Mr Bishop i still see him today lovely old boy loves his boxing we always have a chat....doesnt mean i wasnt petrified of him as a kid....they just commanded a different respect to what they do now....i know its another " the old ways were the best ways "....but in this instance its hard to see otherwise. Thing is gnasher little eric should know how to behave before he gets to school age those were the days twobob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mad al 146 Posted April 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 I blame parents. Teachers are there to teach subjects in the classroom, they are not employed to teach moral values and correct behaviour. That is the job of the people who decided it would be nice to bring that child into the world. You see on TV in places like Africa, they come out of huts with mud floors dressed in clean school uniforms. The classroom is silent and the kids grasp every bit of knowledge they can because they know what real poverty is. They know and appreciate how lucky there are to be getting an education which there family's can go hungry to give them. I guess it's the same with everything, if people are given without it being earnt then they will never value what is given. Too many in this country are so acutely away of there rights and entitlements but have utter disregard for there responsibilities. shepp I think these days kids don't dream they expect and the "parents" don't have the skills because real parents are few and very far between because not a lot of thought went into "why have children?" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6pack 60 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 I blame parents. Teachers are there to teach subjects in the classroom, they are not employed to teach moral values and correct behaviour. That is the job of the people who decided it would be nice to bring that child into the world. You see on TV in places like Africa, they come out of huts with mud floors dressed in clean school uniforms. The classroom is silent and the kids grasp every bit of knowledge they can because they know what real poverty is. They know and appreciate how lucky there are to be getting an education which there family's can go hungry to give them. I guess it's the same with everything, if people are given without it being earnt then they will never value what is given. Too many in this country are so acutely away of there rights and entitlements but have utter disregard for there responsibilities. shepp I think these days kids don't dream they expect and the "parents" don't have the skills because real parents are few and very far between because not a lot of thought went into "why have children?" Decent parents are few and far between because they have been raised by bullying. A clip round the ear to sort the problem gives a vicious circle. They then have no parenting skills of their own and have learnt that clip gets them a result. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,470 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Thing is gnasher little eric should know how to behave before he gets to school age In an ideal world yes......in the real world kids misbehave sometimes,i accept that.....what i dont accept is when it go,s unpunished because a teachers hands are tied. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twobob 1,497 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 the two "proper" teachers at the school I am in contact with were really pissed off last night.........kids were unruly and not listenin and basically laughin in their faces I couldn't be a teacher because I'd flip and resort to the old "clip around the ear" but I tell ya what......... it worked in my day 'cos we knew our fu.ckin place Absolutely.....too many parents today give it the " dont you touch my little Eric "......as responsible people we should give teachers a little trust in the way they discipline our kids....ok i know its not even an issue now due to the pc madness,but if my kids were back at school,unless my lad came home bashed up then id accept he deserved what a teacher gave him. We had teachers you wouldnt have dared backchat to,one old boy Mr Bishop i still see him today lovely old boy loves his boxing we always have a chat....doesnt mean i wasnt petrified of him as a kid....they just commanded a different respect to what they do now....i know its another " the old ways were the best ways "....but in this instance its hard to see otherwise. Thing is gnasher little eric should know how to behave before he gets to school age those were the days twobob Your right mate i brought my kids up how i was fetched up hasnt done them any harm,please ,thankyou,and knowing NO meant no. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twobob 1,497 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 I blame parents. Teachers are there to teach subjects in the classroom, they are not employed to teach moral values and correct behaviour. That is the job of the people who decided it would be nice to bring that child into the world. You see on TV in places like Africa, they come out of huts with mud floors dressed in clean school uniforms. The classroom is silent and the kids grasp every bit of knowledge they can because they know what real poverty is. They know and appreciate how lucky there are to be getting an education which there family's can go hungry to give them. I guess it's the same with everything, if people are given without it being earnt then they will never value what is given. Too many in this country are so acutely away of there rights and entitlements but have utter disregard for there responsibilities. shepp I think these days kids don't dream they expect and the "parents" don't have the skills because real parents are few and very far between because not a lot of thought went into "why have children?" Decent parents are few and far between because they have been raised by bullying. A clip round the ear to sort the problem gives a vicious circle. They then have no parenting skills of their own and have learnt that clip gets them a result. What a load of crap Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stanleigh 135 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Thing is gnasher little eric should know how to behave before he gets to school age In an ideal world yes......in the real world kids misbehave sometimes,i accept that.....what i dont accept is when it go,s unpunished because a teachers hands are tied. Thats the problem , there are no consequences. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,470 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Decent parents are few and far between because they have been raised by bullying. A clip round the ear to sort the problem gives a vicious circle. They then have no parenting skills of their own and have learnt that clip gets them a result. A clip round the ear doesnt leave a deep emotional stain,and if it does then that kid needs to get an idea of what lifes about.Like becoming a man and never standing up for himself because he,s been taught its wrong to hit out. Never laid a finger on my kids it wasnt for me....but i dont see nothing wrong with a clip round the ear if it gets the message home....oh what terrible parenting skills ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6pack 60 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 I blame parents. Teachers are there to teach subjects in the classroom, they are not employed to teach moral values and correct behaviour. That is the job of the people who decided it would be nice to bring that child into the world. You see on TV in places like Africa, they come out of huts with mud floors dressed in clean school uniforms. The classroom is silent and the kids grasp every bit of knowledge they can because they know what real poverty is. They know and appreciate how lucky there are to be getting an education which there family's can go hungry to give them. I guess it's the same with everything, if people are given without it being earnt then they will never value what is given. Too many in this country are so acutely away of there rights and entitlements but have utter disregard for there responsibilities. shepp I think these days kids don't dream they expect and the "parents" don't have the skills because real parents are few and very far between because not a lot of thought went into "why have children?" Decent parents are few and far between because they have been raised by bullying. A clip round the ear to sort the problem gives a vicious circle. They then have no parenting skills of their own and have learnt that clip gets them a result. What a load of crap In what way? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6pack 60 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Decent parents are few and far between because they have been raised by bullying. A clip round the ear to sort the problem gives a vicious circle. They then have no parenting skills of their own and have learnt that clip gets them a result. A clip round the ear doesnt leave a deep emotional stain,and if it does then that kid needs to get an idea of what lifes about.Like becoming a man and never standing up for himself because he,s been taught its wrong to hit out. Never laid a finger on my kids it wasnt for me....but i dont see nothing wrong with a clip round the ear if it gets the message home....oh what terrible parenting skills ! What message does a smack round the head teach? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,470 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 What message does a smack round the head teach? no steady on......clip round the ear not smack round the head dont go putting words in my mouth. a clip round the ear gets a kids attention,well it certainly did me anyway....with some harsh words it did the trick a lot quicker than the harsh words alone..... no teacher would smack a kid of mine around the head a second time....theres a difference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mad al 146 Posted April 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Decent parents are few and far between because they have been raised by bullying. A clip round the ear to sort the problem gives a vicious circle. They then have no parenting skills of their own and have learnt that clip gets them a result. A clip round the ear doesnt leave a deep emotional stain,and if it does then that kid needs to get an idea of what lifes about.Like becoming a man and never standing up for himself because he,s been taught its wrong to hit out. Never laid a finger on my kids it wasnt for me....but i dont see nothing wrong with a clip round the ear if it gets the message home....oh what terrible parenting skills ! What message does a smack round the head teach? my daughter is 10, never been "smacked around the head" as you put it, I could never do it anyway, but she does know the meaning of no and that goes a long way. Respect is the issue here surely? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6pack 60 Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 What message does a smack round the head teach? no steady on......clip round the ear not smack round the head dont go putting words in my mouth. a clip round the ear gets a kids attention,well it certainly did me anyway....with some harsh words it did the trick a lot quicker than the harsh words alone..... no teacher would smack a kid of mine around the head a second time....theres a difference. One of the reasons it is right not to be allowed at school. One mans clip is anothers smack. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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