really happy!

[graham4877 1,181]

why not just buy a pup from a lad who works his dogs and has had pups for the right reason?? yes the pups don't have to conme from working stock

but i'd like the pup to of come from a good home where the dogs are f*****g walked TBH!

 

In my eyes anyone who buys a pup from that puppie farming c**t is just as bad as him if not worse! call yourselves dog men supporting a man who don't walk them dogs BIG f*****g LOL!

If people did not buy from him he would soon close down!

[stubblebasher 150]

hancock and plummer, stole, a lot of knowledge ect, from good dog men and wrote books with it!

After getting them selfs a good name threw books, Hancock gave up chicken farming and turned the sheds into puppy farming instead. !!!!

Thats totally true ! I went there in 84 to take a look at "THE HANCOCK EMPORIUM" as Plumber put it ! I was greeted by several 1/2 cross classless,over weight, mongrels, running round ,which didnt even look like lurchers.Then i witnessed Taffy going demented on a chain ! Followed by his stud greyhound,"Shooting news" ,with his nails 2 inches long ! The finaly was about 20 brood track greyhound bitches in pig stys, all with pups at different stages.What a disapointment to a young lad , but at least i found out what they was all about !

[vld 62]

Week in week out there are ads for Hancocks in "the countrymans weekly" - shouldn't they adopt the same approach as THL: when it comes to puppy farming and not allow puppy farmers/peddlers to advertise with them?

 

 

[morton 5,368]

Hancock and daughter make a living selling Collie type lurchers,not everybody is fortunate enough to be able to source their pup from a genuine working background.At the end of the day if your happy with what yuove got and it serves a purpose then fair play.If it does'nt make the grade follow hancock and bang a litter out of it.

[undisputed 1,664]

Ah all the same fannys wi their negative comments. What the lad does. With his

Money is his business. To many know it alls on here with nothing positive to say. Good luck with your pup.

 

Whin if your dogs had as much wind as you they would be world beaters....mind you when I say wind I actually mean hot air.

[jacksbignose 8]

why not just buy a pup from a lad who works his dogs and has had pups for the right reason??

Sometimes that is easier said than done!

 

I'm on the lookout for a decent pup and if I'm honest I'd 'like' it to come from working stock but so long as the dog is a cross of whatever makes up a lurcher (my preference would be any combo of D'hound/Collie/Beddie/Kelpie/G'hound/Whippet but with all due respect to the lads that run them, preferably very little if any, Bull or Saluki) then I'll take my chance and put the hours in with whatever pup I get, working stock or not.

 

However... there in lies the problem, there are pups that do appear for sale on here and as I don't personally know many of the characters on here, then I've no idea what is in the breeding or if they are genuine. I've seen too many folks buy pups and have been shown pics or even what is meant to be the sire in the flesh, yet when the pup matures you scratch your head wondering wtf was in the make-up of the 'genuine' dam/sire. 10-15 years ago I could have rang around a dozen local lads and found someone with a likely pup for me but a combination of me keeping myself to myself and the decline in decent working dogs, means that even I'm looking at Hancock's dogs and thinking that at least I know what I'll get.

 

Does that make sense? Just sayin' that getting a decent pup, isn't as easy as some folks make out!

[BORDERSCOT 3,816]

Ah all the same fannys wi their negative comments. What the lad does. With his

Money is his business. To many know it alls on here with nothing positive to say. Good luck with your pup.

 

Whin if your dogs had as much wind as you they would be world beaters....mind you when I say wind I actually mean hot air.

 

Just about sums the situation up as far as I'm concerned. Good luck to the lad and all the best with your puppy.

[graham4877 1,181]

why not just buy a pup from a lad who works his dogs and has had pups for the right reason??

Sometimes that is easier said than done!

 

I'm on the lookout for a decent pup and if I'm honest I'd 'like' it to come from working stock but so long as the dog is a cross of whatever makes up a lurcher (my preference would be any combo of D'hound/Collie/Beddie/Kelpie/G'hound/Whippet but with all due respect to the lads that run them, preferably very little if any, Bull or Saluki) then I'll take my chance and put the hours in with whatever pup I get, working stock or not.

 

However... there in lies the problem, there are pups that do appear for sale on here and as I don't personally know many of the characters on here, then I've no idea what is in the breeding or if they are genuine. I've seen too many folks buy pups and have been shown pics or even what is meant to be the sire in the flesh, yet when the pup matures you scratch your head wondering wtf was in the make-up of the 'genuine' dam/sire. 10-15 years ago I could have rang around a dozen local lads and found someone with a likely pup for me but a combination of me keeping myself to myself and the decline in decent working dogs, means that even I'm looking at Hancock's dogs and thinking that at least I know what I'll get.

 

Does that make sense? Just sayin' that getting a decent pup, isn't as easy as some folks make out!

 

yes i know what you mean mate, its hard to find the right pup, but you've got to put the work in no matter what, i'd drive miles for the right one,ask the seller to take you out with sire for a night, if he says no don't get that pup,

long time yet but if and when i breed if some one wants to go out i'll take them to see dogs work, but as you said and i have said it don't have to be from working stock, this whole handcock shit for me is not just about working them, its the fact he don't walk the dogs and they are stuck in 24/7 how the hell can anyone suport that?? buying a pup from him says you agree to this!

 

Yes its nice to know they come from workers, still its not 100% you'l get a good worker from it,

Even if you buy it off here or the cmw or one of many sites your still taking the same chance as you would be getting it from handcock!

But the dam and sire will/should have had a better life and if breeder is a sound lad the dogs will be lucked after and "WALKED" and worked

you might have to see 10 litters to find the right pup, you could be up and down the country, so be it!

 

1st thing i ask is why did you breed the litter, if they stumble telling me,its not for me!

[jacksbignose 8]

yes i know what you mean mate, its hard to find the right pup, but you've got to put the work in no matter what, i'd drive miles for the right one,ask the seller to take you out with sire for a night, if he says no don't get that pup,

long time yet but if and when i breed if some one wants to go out i'll take them to see dogs work, but as you said and i have said it don't have to be from working stock, this whole handcock shit for me is not just about working them, its the fact he don't walk the dogs and they are stuck in 24/7 how the hell can anyone suport that?? buying a pup from him says you agree to this!

 

Yes its nice to know they come from workers, still its not 100% you'l get a good worker from it,

Even if you buy it off here or the cmw or one of many sites your still taking the same chance as you would be getting it from handcock!

But the dam and sire will/should have had a better life and if breeder is a sound lad the dogs will be lucked after and "WALKED" and worked

you might have to see 10 litters to find the right pup, you could be up and down the country, so be it!

 

1st thing i ask is why did you breed the litter, if they stumble telling me,its not for me!

I've no problem with travelling for the right dog but even following your good advice there are major pitfalls!

 

You arrive to view the pups, the seller trots out an impressive sire that is his mates dog and maybe even takes you out to see the dog work (though not really feasible from now till Sept/Oct), however there is absolutely no guarantee that the dog you've seen is genuinely the sire! A dozen years ago I went with a mate to collect a pup for him, the parents were both viewed and were just the right type yet when the pup got up to 6mths it was obvious either the pairing had thrown some oddball pups or the dam was caught by a lab and certainly NOT the sire that we saw. It's that type of gamble that has the likes of me asking all sorts of questions and bricking it in case I get some Chihuahua/Whippet cross... it makes the certainty of the likes of Hancock that 'little' bit appealing (though I concede I don't condone unsavoury breeding practices)!

[saxonmaster 74]

yes i know what you mean mate, its hard to find the right pup, but you've got to put the work in no matter what, i'd drive miles for the right one,ask the seller to take you out with sire for a night, if he says no don't get that pup,

long time yet but if and when i breed if some one wants to go out i'll take them to see dogs work, but as you said and i have said it don't have to be from working stock, this whole handcock shit for me is not just about working them, its the fact he don't walk the dogs and they are stuck in 24/7 how the hell can anyone suport that?? buying a pup from him says you agree to this!

 

Yes its nice to know they come from workers, still its not 100% you'l get a good worker from it,

Even if you buy it off here or the cmw or one of many sites your still taking the same chance as you would be getting it from handcock!

But the dam and sire will/should have had a better life and if breeder is a sound lad the dogs will be lucked after and "WALKED" and worked

you might have to see 10 litters to find the right pup, you could be up and down the country, so be it!

 

1st thing i ask is why did you breed the litter, if they stumble telling me,its not for me!

I've no problem with travelling for the right dog but even following your good advice there are major pitfalls!

 

You arrive to view the pups, the seller trots out an impressive sire that is his mates dog and maybe even takes you out to see the dog work (though not really feasible from now till Sept/Oct), however there is absolutely no guarantee that the dog you've seen is genuinely the sire! A dozen years ago I went with a mate to collect a pup for him, the parents were both viewed and were just the right type yet when the pup got up to 6mths it was obvious either the pairing had thrown some oddball pups or the dam was caught by a lab and certainly NOT the sire that we saw. It's that type of gamble that has the likes of me asking all sorts of questions and bricking it in case I get some Chihuahua/Whippet cross... it makes the certainty of the likes of Hancock that 'little' bit appealing (though I concede I don't condone unsavoury breeding practices)!

 

100% agree mate like ive already said earlier in this debate this is my first lurcher i called and seen other litters but i didnt trust any of them i didnt know anyone as i was new to lurchers so i went for a hancock as a safe bet to get the breeding i wanted but like i said i wont get another from there now i know a few people i will breed from mine or buy a bitch and breed when the time is right for me. but your right mate its bloody hard with so many idiots out there.

[graham4877 1,181]

yes i know what you mean mate, its hard to find the right pup, but you've got to put the work in no matter what, i'd drive miles for the right one,ask the seller to take you out with sire for a night, if he says no don't get that pup,

long time yet but if and when i breed if some one wants to go out i'll take them to see dogs work, but as you said and i have said it don't have to be from working stock, this whole handcock shit for me is not just about working them, its the fact he don't walk the dogs and they are stuck in 24/7 how the hell can anyone suport that?? buying a pup from him says you agree to this!

 

Yes its nice to know they come from workers, still its not 100% you'l get a good worker from it,

Even if you buy it off here or the cmw or one of many sites your still taking the same chance as you would be getting it from handcock!

But the dam and sire will/should have had a better life and if breeder is a sound lad the dogs will be lucked after and "WALKED" and worked

you might have to see 10 litters to find the right pup, you could be up and down the country, so be it!

 

1st thing i ask is why did you breed the litter, if they stumble telling me,its not for me!

I've no problem with travelling for the right dog but even following your good advice there are major pitfalls!

 

You arrive to view the pups, the seller trots out an impressive sire that is his mates dog and maybe even takes you out to see the dog work (though not really feasible from now till Sept/Oct), however there is absolutely no guarantee that the dog you've seen is genuinely the sire! A dozen years ago I went with a mate to collect a pup for him, the parents were both viewed and were just the right type yet when the pup got up to 6mths it was obvious either the pairing had thrown some oddball pups or the dam was caught by a lab and certainly NOT the sire that we saw. It's that type of gamble that has the likes of me asking all sorts of questions and bricking it in case I get some Chihuahua/Whippet cross... it makes the certainty of the likes of Hancock that 'little' bit appealing (though I concede I don't condone unsavoury breeding practices)!

 

Totaly see the point their mate, but that must of been a freak accident mating or its thrown wrong! my mate got 3 bitches and a dog from his litter and they all thrown mad, knowone beleaves their all from same litter! but we take a chance no matter what we get thats the risk we take with an X, their was a real good litter on here not long ago, if i wanted a pup i would of went and got one, its all a waiting game realy!

 

 

If handcock got out and walked the dogs i'd not be bad, but its rather 2 faced this site, say a lad has 2 litter in same year from to bitches he has he gets aload of shit for it and he works and walks his dogs , then hancock comes along dose neather and its ok!!

[zx12edge 1,001]

Good luck with your pup

[littlefish 586]

Good luck with your pup. As soon as you get it home, get it wormed, jabbed and onto good quality grub. Put the effort into training it and then keep us informed of its progress.....it will be what you make it!

[John Keswick 119]

Hancock is a puppy farmer simples. Some will turn out ok, some will not. You pay your money and take your chances.

 

I thought the place was disgusting, but as a keen lad that had been looking foward to his first lurcher i ignored the shite and went with it.

In hindsight i should have walked away, and today i would have done.

 

[Sorley x 32]

All the best with your pup fella. Put the effort in and you'll have a great dog. I've seen plenty of great hancock dogs, so ignore certain replies. There are just as many useless lurchers that are supposedly bred by true lurchermen. If you dont think about what you are breeding and if the owners puts no effort into the pup it has little chance. At least with your pup you know what you are getting.