Pellet Weighing

[19powell90 89]

Hi all

 

having recently bought a hw100 which is fantastically accurate & i am trying to make sure everything i put into it including me is of the highest quality so i can get the best from this rifle. after i bought the rifle i wanted to chrono it so i got my H&N baracudas out and put a mag through it at around 150bar and the FPS difference was around 20 FPS which isnt that bad but it could be improved.

 

SO...

 

i have recently purchased a digital scale from ebay for £10 that weighs in 0.01 grams aswell as others.

 

this is so i can weigh my pellets to keep the consistency at its best.

 

WELL...

 

I use H&N baracuda match 4.52's through my hw100 which are great for hunting! the batch i have weigh between 0.69-0.71 grams which isnt too bad so i divided them into the 3 weights and put them in separate tins.

 

FINALLY...

 

i put a mag of 0.71's through the chrono at approx 150 bar and WHAT A DIFFERENCE...... the FPS difference was 5 FPS!!!

 

SO THE MORAL OF THE STORY GUYS IS....

 

!!WEIGH YOUR PELLETS!!

 

 

SCOTT

[rossi_j 99]

For target comps yes, dont think I could be botherd for day to day usage personally to be honest, each to there own

 

It definatly improves on consistancy, but for everyday use im not sure the reward will out weigh the effort.

Sp for putting in the work and doing it, and proving to yourself it works, did you notice a difference on target accuracy atall? I know bettering the consistancy will improve accuracy and was wondering if you can see this gain out at 50-70yds as at 35 should be pellet on pellet anyway

 

It would have been great to shoot before and after pellet sorting groups at say 60yds to see acctual diference at the target, I know got to have perfect conditions for this test to work, maybe have a go myself one nice sunny day

 

.atb. .ste.

Edited March 30, 2011 by rossi_j

[zini 1,939]

Hi Scott,

 

I do commend you for trying all this pal and taking the time and effort to try and ensure that your quarry is dispatched the best you can do with the most accurate shot possible.

 

Ive done this before myself what you have done here and had the same type of results as you pal which are good results but as Ste points out that at normal hunting ranges (10 to 35 metres) the difference isnt really noticed buddy if you are using a quality rifle like a HW or a regged rifle when you do your part as the shooter.

 

Target and FT lads weigh their pellets due to hitting pellet size bulls eyes in some cases at a fair old distance so want try to eliminate everything as you have that will degrade their accuracy so they can win.

 

Try shooting a group of 10 of the heavier grouped pellets and then 10 of the lighter grouped pellets at 40 metres mate which is a fair hunting range. Use the same aim point for both groups and the same card and then see if there is any big difference mate.

 

I think that you will find a very tiny if at all difference buddy (further yes) and the biggest difference will be from you as a shooter and not the rifle or the pellet weight.

 

But as i said earlier pal i cant fault you for trying and putting in the work to be the best that you can with your combo and it can only be a good thing at the end of the day buddy

 

SPA

 

ATB

 

Si.

Edited March 31, 2011 by zini

[pianoman 3,587]

I think it's a great idea to get a pellet scale and see what you really have in your tin. I shoot .22 H&N Field Target Trophy with my HW77 and HW80 rifles and I've found a similar, inconsistant 3 variances in sizes of slack-fitting, tight fitting and comfy fitting pellets; just by the feel of them as I thumb them into the breech. Generally, they are consistently accurate but the slacker fitting ones can hit a good inch or more low from a 30-metre zero within the tinful. I've missed long range rabbits and targets through this inconsistancy and pellet scales might have located those. What makes of these scales are there, and other than Ebay, what do they cost on average?

 

Anybody else using these H&N FTT .22 pellets noticed a similar thing?

 

Simon

[19powell90 89]

Thanks for the replys and comments, was originally just a test to see if consistency could be improved, and just to let people know not to blame their rifle for inconsistency as most rifles these days are unbelievably accurate and the only things letting them down are the shooter and pellet choice.

 

As i now will be weighing all my pellets to ensure ultimate accuracy and a positive clean kill.

 

Hope this helps some people from beginners to experts

 

Atb

 

Scott

[rossi_j 99]

I think it's a great idea to get a pellet scale and see what you really have in your tin. I shoot .22 H&N Field Target Trophy with my HW77 and HW80 rifles and I've found a similar, inconsistant 3 variances in sizes of slack-fitting, tight fitting and comfy fitting pellets; just by the feel of them as I thumb them into the breech. Generally, they are consistently accurate but the slacker fitting ones can hit a good inch or more low from a 30-metre zero within the tinful. I've missed long range rabbits and targets through this inconsistancy and pellet scales might have located those. What makes of these scales are there, and other than Ebay, what do they cost on average?Anybody else using these H&N FTT .22 pellets noticed a similar thing?Simon

 

An inch lower at 30m with pellets from the same tin, bin them imo.

 

I dont feel my pellets entering the breach as they are loaded by bolt but I would be very unhappy with that type of performance and would be looking for a new pellet brand, that is very poor quality and a very big inconsistancy in my opinion pianoman.

 

How many are like this in an avarage tin, couldent you sieze your pellets rather than weigh them if you want to iron that out

 

Just a little surprised by that pianoman, not something I would tolerate from my pellets.

At your level of shooting that is letting you down big time mate.

.atb. .ste.

[rossi_j 99]

That is definatly a weight thing due to it going low, if it was just due to loose fit would go anywhere around the group, I use pellets with bent skirts in the garden sometimes and they aren't that far out, that would be a big difference in weight simon, a lot more than the small diferences scott is talking about.

 

.atb. .ste.

[pianoman 3,587]

Thanks for your response to my little bit of a ball-ache Ste.

 

I'd say the ratio was about one in fifteen pellets found to be at fault, and that's pretty high to me. The trouble is, these H&N FTTs all look identically alike. There is no obvious size differences that you can actually see when you examine them with the naked eye. Because they need me to thumb each one into the breeches of my spring rifles, that's the only moment when you feel there's a bit of a difference going on. At the tip of your thumb.

 

H&N Field Target Trophy have been my FAC HW80s staple diet for over a decade now and I've had some of my most amazing "Oh-My-God!" air rifle hunting shots with them. My HW77 is sub 12ft/lbs will put an H&N FTT on a penny at 50-metres. I know, because I've done it. They've started this inconsistant size/weight thing only in recent years. And I've been wondering if a digital pellet scale would pick up the discrepencies and let me seperate them?

 

 

ATB

 

Simon

[rossi_j 99]

Thanks for your response to my little bit of a ball-ache Ste. I'd say the ratio was about one in fifteen pellets found to be at fault, and that's pretty high to me. The trouble is, these H&N FTTs all look identically alike. There is no obvious size differences that you can actually see when you examine them with the naked eye. Because they need me to thumb each one into the breeches of my spring rifles, that's the only moment when you feel there's a bit of a difference going on. At the tip of your thumb.H&N Field Target Trophy have been my FAC HW80s staple diet for over a decade now and I've had some of my most amazing "Oh-My-God!" air rifle hunting shots with them. My HW77 is sub 12ft/lbs will put an H&N FTT on a penny at 50-metres. I know, because I've done it. They've started this inconsistant size/weight thing only in recent years. And I've been wondering if a digital pellet scale would pick up the discrepencies and let me seperate them?ATBSimon

 

Sure, the scales would be perfect for sorting out that problem, I agree that one in fifteen is a lot, I thing weighing them will solve your problem, if they are 1" low at 30m would that make them lighter or hevier than the norm?(im not a .22 man) either way it will be a big difference on the scales and will stand out like a sore thumb

 

 

Scott, when you sorted your pellets did you have any rouges that did not fit into your 3 main weight categories? Just out of curiosity

 

.atb. .ste.

[19powell90 89]

Thanks for your response to my little bit of a ball-ache Ste. I'd say the ratio was about one in fifteen pellets found to be at fault, and that's pretty high to me. The trouble is, these H&N FTTs all look identically alike. There is no obvious size differences that you can actually see when you examine them with the naked eye. Because they need me to thumb each one into the breeches of my spring rifles, that's the only moment when you feel there's a bit of a difference going on. At the tip of your thumb.H&N Field Target Trophy have been my FAC HW80s staple diet for over a decade now and I've had some of my most amazing "Oh-My-God!" air rifle hunting shots with them. My HW77 is sub 12ft/lbs will put an H&N FTT on a penny at 50-metres. I know, because I've done it. They've started this inconsistant size/weight thing only in recent years. And I've been wondering if a digital pellet scale would pick up the discrepencies and let me seperate them?ATBSimon

 

Sure, the scales would be perfect for sorting out that problem, I agree that one in fifteen is a lot, I thing weighing them will solve your problem, if they are 1" low at 30m would that make them lighter or hevier than the norm?(im not a .22 man) either way it will be a big difference on the scales and will stand out like a sore thumb

 

 

Scott, when you sorted your pellets did you have any rouges that did not fit into your 3 main weight categories? Just out of curiosity

 

.atb. .ste.

 

 

Yes( i didnt count how many but not alot ) i just stuck them in a tin and wrote P on the top for plinking

 

atb

 

scott