Is it me...?

[zini 1,939]

Always makes my smile how some people become experts after a tiny bit of time shooting with an air rifle when months or weeks earlier they were asking some of the same questions themselves and in some cases making statements in the open forum that were strange or even silly.

 

The lad is asking a couple of simple questions and all he needs is a simple answers from someone, not going around the world to get to the corner shop and dazzleing him with utter crap that is of no use.

 

Questions:

 

1. Is my rifle capable of the intended job?

2. Is the scope up to the job?

3. What can I do to try to improve my target practice (is it me or is it the equipment)?

4. Is the numbers of rabbits I see a sign that there are only a few or is this the amount that most people would expect to see and take the chances that they have?

 

Answers:

 

1. The Norica rifle that you are talking about is a full power springer mate and will be able to kill any of the air gun quarry species easily if you are good enough as a shooter and match it with a correct pellet at ranges up to 55 metres –ish.

 

2. The scope brand that you are talking about is a very popular brand and that model is more than capable of doing what you require from short right out to max range shooting if you do your home work and learn your pellets trajectory at different ranges.

 

3. I believe that your problem is down to 3 reasons mate to be honest after reading your post.

 

The first thing that I would do is stop using the bipod that is attached to your barrel. Barrel attaching bipods on springers are notoriously a bad idea and cause the rifle to recoil and flip in a bad way to what it should do changing the harmonics of the firing cycle. Use a bean bag or a soft cushion under your hand and then loosely grip the fore stock instead of using

the bipod buddy.

 

Try some quality pellets in your barrel mate and see which group best for you. All barrels are different and what works for one barrel will and can be different for another barrel of the same rifle. Air Arms Fields, FX pellets, RWS Super Fields, Webley Accupells, RWS Super Domes, Daystate Range Masters are all good starters but a springer generally likes lighter pellets more (but not the bible) so I would try the Super Domes, Accupells first followed by the AA Fields, FX and Super Fields after.

 

Finally I would practice as much as possible with your new rifle before you try to shoot live quarry with it pal. Once you have got the right pellet for your barrel and the right shooting technique your groups will tighten very quickly with practice. Try at 10 to 15 metres first pal before shooting at 30 metres and getting disillusioned. A lot of the stuff I shoot including rabbits are at these ranges.

 

4. For this time of year mate what you are reporting seems to be the norm pal so don’t worry. As soon as it warms up more and the kits get ¾ grown you will be surprised just how many you will then see.

 

ATB

 

Si

[The_Oakster 2]

Cheers Bill, I'll pm you.

[The_Oakster 2]

Thanks for that Zini

[Sweeney-Todd 208]

Always makes my smile how some people become experts after a tiny bit of time shooting with an air rifle when months or weeks earlier they were asking some of the same questions themselves and in some cases making statements in the open forum that were strange or even silly.

 

The lad is asking a couple of simple questions and all he needs is a simple answers from someone, not going around the world to get to the corner shop and dazzleing him with utter crap that is of no use.

 

Questions:

 

1. Is my rifle capable of the intended job?

2. Is the scope up to the job?

3. What can I do to try to improve my target practice (is it me or is it the equipment)?

4. Is the numbers of rabbits I see a sign that there are only a few or is this the amount that most people would expect to see and take the chances that they have?

 

Answers:

 

1. The Norica rifle that you are talking about is a full power springer mate and will be able to kill any of the air gun quarry species easily if you are good enough as a shooter and match it with a correct pellet at ranges up to 55 metres –ish.

 

2. The scope brand that you are talking about is a very popular brand and that model is more than capable of doing what you require from short right out to max range shooting if you do your home work and learn your pellets trajectory at different ranges.

 

3. I believe that your problem is down to 3 reasons mate to be honest after reading your post.

 

The first thing that I would do is stop using the bipod that is attached to your barrel. Barrel attaching bipods on springers are notoriously a bad idea and cause the rifle to recoil and flip in a bad way to what it should do changing the harmonics of the firing cycle. Use a bean bag or a soft cushion under your hand and then loosely grip the fore stock instead of using

the bipod buddy.

 

Try some quality pellets in your barrel mate and see which group best for you. All barrels are different and what works for one barrel will and can be different for another barrel of the same rifle. Air Arms Fields, FX pellets, RWS Super Fields, Webley Accupells, RWS Super Domes, Daystate Range Masters are all good starters but a springer generally likes lighter pellets more (but not the bible) so I would try the Super Domes, Accupells first followed by the AA Fields, FX and Super Fields after.

 

Finally I would practice as much as possible with your new rifle before you try to shoot live quarry with it pal. Once you have got the right pellet for your barrel and the right shooting technique your groups will tighten very quickly with practice. Try at 10 to 15 metres first pal before shooting at 30 metres and getting disillusioned. A lot of the stuff I shoot including rabbits are at these ranges.

 

4. For this time of year mate what you are reporting seems to be the norm pal so don’t worry. As soon as it warms up more and the kits get ¾ grown you will be surprised just how many you will then see.

 

ATB

 

Si

 

 

 

Bloody Hell Si.....PMT.....hangover......or wrong side of the bed

 

Its a forum, people are going to offer their oppinions, right or wrong, silly or not.

Thats where the more experienced like yourself should show patience and learning not ridicule.

 

 

 

By the way.....you have just repeated most of whats been said above already.

 

 

 

 

ATB.

 

 

 

Bill.

[Tyla 3,179]

You have two problems, rifle, pellets etc has been covered above. The second is more difficult, its hard to learn fieldcraft without doing it or seeing it. Its something very hard to explain in words, is there anyone on here local to you who you could go out with a few times? There is so much that you could learn just by seeing someone else hunt, things that more experienced people just do or see and react to automatically. I'd take you out if you are anywhere near sussex?

 

Just checked, your in lincs, probably a bit far but im sure someone more local could do the same?

Edited March 30, 2011 by Tyla

[zini 1,939]

I know I have dad, I can read .

 

There will always be the argumentive types and the peace makers.

 

I suppose I’m just argumentive or maybe just fed up of reading barking stuff from the same people.

 

Ill leave it at that.

 

Si.

Edited March 30, 2011 by zini

[Sweeney-Todd 208]

I know I have dad, I can read .

 

There will always be the argumentive types and the peace makers.

 

I suppose I’m just argumentive or maybe just fed up of reading barking stuff from the same people.

 

Ill leave it at that.

 

Si.

 

 

 

Hi Son .

 

 

I think you have to be barking to be here

Chill young Jedi.....we fly the same flag......just not always the right way up

 

 

 

Bill.

[The_Oakster 2]

Don't fall out over me, I'm not worth it

 

I've looked at my local gunshot and they sell the RWS Superfields for £6.30 and the RWS Super Domes for £5.40. They also have the AA Diabolo Fields for £6.95. Are these the same as AA fields?

 

Shall I use the rest of the Norvica pellets without the bipod or start fresh without the bipod using new pellets?

[gurtwurz 792]

might as well use your norica's first matey, be a shame to waste em!!

 

think the aa's are the same bud

 

cheers, wurz

[matt_hooks 188]

I know I have dad, I can read .fed up of reading barking stuff from the same people.

 

I've not posted on this thread though!

 

As for the bunny crap, I believe you have your pellets, if you'll excuse the pun, arse about face Moley. There's info HERE about bunny digestive habits. They don't re-eat any of the droppings you'll see on the ground, that's total...ahem...crap!

 

What you might be getting confused with is deer poo, which can look a lot like bunny poo. The difference between them is that bunny crap forms hardish, fibrous pellets, as they can't efficiently digest the crude fibre in the grass etc. that they eat. Deer on the other hand, being ruminants, can very efficiently digest the fibres using their complex gastric and intestinal arrangement, and so their droppings are softer, and very smooth when squeezed, with few or no visible fibres. These may well be the "soft" pellets you describe.

 

Anyway, massive thread drift, but there's nowt I can add to what's been said already regarding hunting.

Edited March 30, 2011 by matt_hooks

[j j m 6,555]

a bi pod is a big no no on springers mate

[bunny hunter 0]

I have a weihrauch hw97k, great rifle i would always recommended this rifle to anyone who was thinking of getting it or anyone who is getting a air rifle i can't say a bad word about one thing that can improve this rifle is a v match kit wich can be purchased from many online stores

 

its an awsome rifle for rabbits pigeons crows, and many MANY more