Shazza 52 Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 There's probably some truth in that Dan, i don't know a whole lot about sighthound breeds and thier genetic problems but as they are some of the oldest breeds/types known to man i doubt they are as f*cked up as a lot of other breeds. They certainly seem a lot healthier from what i've seen and then the X's and dogs bred from generations of proven working dogs have to be healthier than dogs bred to just "look" a certain way regardless to the health implications. Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Not some of these vets..........MOST of these vets. Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 really? never had any problems using it myself can you put links up to pups that have died from this? One discussion about wormers http://www.champdogs...opic/68664.html Will have a look for more but the ones i know about are mainly on Facebook. From reading through that discussion it states Collies/herding breeds should not be given Milbemax as there is a substance in it which they can react badly to, i would play it safe and not give it to any lurchers with collie in them not having a go at you personaly but don,t believe everything you read,I,ve not read it but to suggest not to give a particular brand to a dug with collie in it seems a bit strange tae me There's links to veterinary advice not to give this particular wormer to herding breeds I am sure i also read it on the manufacterurers website but it may have been on a website doing mail order for the product (i can't find it now). I.ll tell you why I think its a bit strange,maybe herding types are a bit mental but their basic genetic make up is the same as any other breed,so I would reckon either this particular wormer shouldn,t be given to dogs regardless the breed or the articles decrying it are alot of shite While all dogs are essentially the same animal, each breed is essentially bred from a relatively small group of a type. Their isn't a lot of genetic diversity within a pedigree breed compared to the populations of dogs as a whole, so it's easy to see how a sensitivity to a certain thing can be passed on to a breed as a whole over a long period of time while breeding close to maintain that certain type until it's an integral part of a population. : Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 There's probably some truth in that Dan, i don't know a whole lot about sighthound breeds and thier genetic problems but as they are some of the oldest breeds/types known to man i doubt they are as f*cked up as a lot of other breeds. They certainly seem a lot healthier from what i've seen and then the X's and dogs bred from generations of proven working dogs have to be healthier than dogs bred to just "look" a certain way regardless to the health implications. Romanticizing the sighthound breeds by calling them "some of the oldest" breeds does not mean they are healthy. The greyhound of today is in no way shape or form the same as the greyhound of the early 1900s let alone the greyhound of four or five hundred years ago. The greyhound of today is a specialized racing dog, nothing more nothing less. They are no different per say than the throroughbred race horse. They may be fast but they are not always "healthy". I agree there are many other breeds way more unhealthy both mentally and physically but one cannot deny the certain mental and physcial problems that we see in today's greyhounds and other sighthound breeds. The so called Irish wolfhound is so f****d up that I cant even believe that anybody would consider calling them a sighthound at all. The KC Whippets and Borzoi are in my opinion just as bad. Supposedly there are deerhounds out there that are top notch but I'd have to literally see it to believe it. I have a funny feeling that my definition of top notch would be drastically different than those who have told me about these "working deerhounds". Quote Link to post
KittleRox 2,147 Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 really? never had any problems using it myself can you put links up to pups that have died from this? One discussion about wormers http://www.champdogs...opic/68664.html Will have a look for more but the ones i know about are mainly on Facebook. From reading through that discussion it states Collies/herding breeds should not be given Milbemax as there is a substance in it which they can react badly to, i would play it safe and not give it to any lurchers with collie in them not having a go at you personaly but don,t believe everything you read,I,ve not read it but to suggest not to give a particular brand to a dug with collie in it seems a bit strange tae me There's links to veterinary advice not to give this particular wormer to herding breeds I am sure i also read it on the manufacterurers website but it may have been on a website doing mail order for the product (i can't find it now). I.ll tell you why I think its a bit strange,maybe herding types are a bit mental but their basic genetic make up is the same as any other breed,so I would reckon either this particular wormer shouldn,t be given to dogs regardless the breed or the articles decrying it are alot of shite While all dogs are essentially the same animal, each breed is essentially bred from a relatively small group of a type. Their isn't a lot of genetic diversity within a pedigree breed compared to the populations of dogs as a whole, so it's easy to see how a sensitivity to a certain thing can be passed on to a breed as a whole over a long period of time while breeding close to maintain that certain type until it's an integral part of a population. : As I,ve said mate I have never kept a pure bred dug, mostly because of the problems associated so I,m no expert ,I get your point though Quote Link to post
KittleRox 2,147 Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Oh Fxck I just remembered I,ve just got myself a pure whippet Quote Link to post
foxlamper80 28 Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 (edited) Be careful with Panacur, i did a lot of research after losing 2 pups after worming with the 10% liquid. It's very harsh on the dogs intestines and there's info on the net where hundreds of people have posted about thier dogs getting very ill or dying after using it, of course the vet & manufacturers deny this i lost 3 pups using panacur as well Edited March 30, 2011 by foxlamper80 Quote Link to post
chilly 59 Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 I've just wormed my pup with drontal plus , is this stuff any good any good ?? Quote Link to post
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