jasper65 6 Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 I thought I would give the Air Ranger a few shots over the chrono today as it seemed under powered. to my shock the first shot produced some sparks from out of the barrel! the next couple was fine and then the third shots produced sparks again. Trust me guys I'm not losing my mind there was 100% sparks. anyone else ever witnessed this and if so any ideas whats going on? also like to point out I have not lubed the pellets or the Barrel either. all seems a bit odd to be honest . atb Jasper Quote Link to post
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 (edited) What pellets are you using? Edited to say some people report sparks when using Prometheus! Edited March 26, 2011 by secretagentmole Quote Link to post
jasper65 6 Posted March 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 I'm still useing my old Favourites <H&N Field Target Trophy .177>. I have never seen it spark before , I think the only times I saw sparks and plenty of smoke was some old springers breaking the sound barrier when dieseling. This gun averaged around 766 FPS over 5 shots.. Jasp Quote Link to post
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 On 26/03/2011 at 18:46, jasper65 said: I'm still useing my old Favourites <H&N Field Target Trophy .177>. I have never seen it spark before , I think the only times I saw sparks and plenty of smoke was some old springers breaking the sound barrier when dieseling. This gun averaged around 766 FPS over 5 shots.. Jasp Silencer fitted? Could be some of the baffles have shifted and sparks coming through that way as pellet strikes, could explain power drop! Quote Link to post
Marksman 934 Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 very hard to explain mate....dont think it will be the lead as it's non combustible, try giving it a clean in case the barrel has become contaminated Thats all I can suggest anyway.....It wil be interesting if you do find the problem mate Good luck Darryl Quote Link to post
pianoman 3,587 Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 I think I agree with Darryl, sounds to me like that is barrel metal being struck by debris as the pellet zips down the rifling. Give it a thorough clean and see then. What do you think Jasp? Simon 1 Quote Link to post
jasper65 6 Posted March 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Many thanks guys for the replies . I have to say I'm totaly Cabaged by why its doing it. I now recall seeing this before from this gun but thought I was seeing things but no doubt about it I saw it light up on a couple of occasions today. I havn't done much with the gun for a few weeks except top it up a few days ago. I never lubed it but fired off a few shots in the field at a few targets and it seemed below par, I then decided to give it a go across the chrono and noticed the sparks. I'm wondering if any debri gets pushed into the barrel via the Magazine? the reason I'm saying it is I keep them in my pocket with all sorts of rubbish, its only a guess as to be honest I have no idea , Confused is a understatement. Jasper Quote Link to post
Marksman 934 Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 My guess will be sand/ grit igniting whatever small shards of metal are in the barrel. Give ya mags a good wash in warm soapy water and spray with light coat of WD40. I store mine in an old money bag mate Darryl 1 Quote Link to post
andyfr1968 772 Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 That's a new one on me, Jasper, never heard of that from a PCP. Badly set up springers yes but never a pre-charge. Be interesting to see what's causeing it Cheers. Quote Link to post
Ken Moran 0 Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Im thinking something in the chamber like rust particles somehow igniting when fired. Fire a few shots into something that might catch the particles, close range at white paper or cloth etc. Quote Link to post
jasper65 6 Posted March 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 On 26/03/2011 at 20:47, Marksman said: My guess will be sand/ grit igniting whatever small shards of metal are in the barrel. Give ya mags a good wash in warm soapy water and spray with light coat of WD40. I store mine in an old money bag mate Darryl Cheers for the info Darryl! that certainly sounds like the thing to do bud . just out of interest would the WD40 be ok on the small O ring that runs round the mag? On 26/03/2011 at 21:42, andyfr1968 said: That's a new one on me, Jasper, never heard of that from a PCP. Badly set up springers yes but never a pre-charge. Be interesting to see what's causeing it Cheers. I think perhaps its crap coming through the Mag Andy, Just did a test below while its dark. Jasp On 26/03/2011 at 21:57, Ken Moran said: Im thinking something in the chamber like rust particles somehow igniting when fired. Fire a few shots into something that might catch the particles, close range at white paper or cloth etc. I just did a test outside in the dark Ken. I fired off a full 10 shot mag and only one sparked out! I then tried it with the single shot tray again with 10 shots and all was ok. Its looking like Particles of debri from inside my pockets getting into the mags and igniteing in the barrel, I noticed in the past some mags a bit gritty and also had a problem in the past with one Indexing pellets due to debri in the mag spindle, perhaps this is getting passed into the Barrel? its only guess work but perhaps its logical. I'll be cleaning my Mags tomorrow like Darryl mentioned which will hopefully cure it, its only a Intermiten problem and certainly nowhere near every shot! but its still bothered me all the same Jasp Quote Link to post
andyfr1968 772 Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Don't use WD40 on the 'o' ring, Jasper, it'll perrish the rubber. Use either a synthetic gun oil or better still a pure silicon oil. They won't rot the rubber Quote Link to post
gurtwurz 792 Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 hope you've sorted it now jasp mate, although i have to say that i'd have thought the contents of your trouser pockets would've been kinda moist, as opposed to flammable mate... hot stuff indeed... cheers,wurz Quote Link to post
jasper65 6 Posted March 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 On 27/03/2011 at 07:32, gurtwurz said: hope you've sorted it now jasp mate, although i have to say that i'd have thought the contents of your trouser pockets would've been kinda moist, as opposed to flammable mate... hot stuff indeed... cheers,wurz Nice one wurz! must admit I do keep some old Undies in my Pocket from the neighbours linen line , I'm now thinking perhaps its the small curly hairs stuck round the gusset making their way into the magazine and igniting in the barrel . atb Jasp Quote Link to post
Millet 4,497 Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 This is just as thought mate with the gun not being fired for a bit could it of had a small amount of rust spots gathering inside the barrel. Quote Link to post
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