baw 4,360 Posted March 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 ....2 camps evolved, the hunter and the shooter.....the hunter used his ability and guile to catch his prey, enjoying the chase as much as the catch, for him it is all about being one with nature, taking his prey as natural as possible.....the shooter on the other hand, created a gun which helped to hide his lack of accuracy, he got fed up trying to hunt wild animals and produced his own creature to hunt......he bred the most stupidest bird mother nature has ever seen and employed people to scare the birds towards him so he didn't have to move......so here we have arrived at man today, the hunter and the shooter ....yeh right ! Cos letting your dog of the lead is such a difficult thing to do.... . The fact you think that's all you need to do to train a dog etc, only strengthens my point Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave1372 83 Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 ....2 camps evolved, the hunter and the shooter.....the hunter used his ability and guile to catch his prey, enjoying the chase as much as the catch, for him it is all about being one with nature, taking his prey as natural as possible.....the shooter on the other hand, created a gun which helped to hide his lack of accuracy, he got fed up trying to hunt wild animals and produced his own creature to hunt......he bred the most stupidest bird mother nature has ever seen and employed people to scare the birds towards him so he didn't have to move......so here we have arrived at man today, the hunter and the shooter ....yeh right ! Cos letting your dog of the lead is such a difficult thing to do.... . The fact you think that's all you need to do to train a dog etc, only strengthens my point The fact you think shooting requires no skills or fieldcraft, only strengthens my point Both require patience and skill and if you are not able to understand that then most likely that is ignorance on your part Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted March 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 ....2 camps evolved, the hunter and the shooter.....the hunter used his ability and guile to catch his prey, enjoying the chase as much as the catch, for him it is all about being one with nature, taking his prey as natural as possible.....the shooter on the other hand, created a gun which helped to hide his lack of accuracy, he got fed up trying to hunt wild animals and produced his own creature to hunt......he bred the most stupidest bird mother nature has ever seen and employed people to scare the birds towards him so he didn't have to move......so here we have arrived at man today, the hunter and the shooter ....yeh right ! Cos letting your dog of the lead is such a difficult thing to do.... . The fact you think that's all you need to do to train a dog etc, only strengthens my point The fact you think shooting requires no skills or fieldcraft, only strengthens my point Both require patience and skill and if you are not able to understand that then most likely that is ignorance on your part What skill is required on a pheasant shoot then? I'll bet you a total beginner will be shooting birds by the end of 1 day. If thats what you call skill, well................ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blan89 159 Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 ....2 camps evolved, the hunter and the shooter.....the hunter used his ability and guile to catch his prey, enjoying the chase as much as the catch, for him it is all about being one with nature, taking his prey as natural as possible.....the shooter on the other hand, created a gun which helped to hide his lack of accuracy, he got fed up trying to hunt wild animals and produced his own creature to hunt......he bred the most stupidest bird mother nature has ever seen and employed people to scare the birds towards him so he didn't have to move......so here we have arrived at man today, the hunter and the shooter ....yeh right ! Cos letting your dog of the lead is such a difficult thing to do.... . The fact you think that's all you need to do to train a dog etc, only strengthens my point The fact you think shooting requires no skills or fieldcraft, only strengthens my point Both require patience and skill and if you are not able to understand that then most likely that is ignorance on your part shooting's a piece of piss, any retard can learn to shoot. can you read and understand this? 1)The shooting position and hold must be firm enough to support the rifle. 2)The rifle must point naturally at the target without any undue physical effort. 3)Sight alignment and sight picture must be correct. 4)The shot must be released and followed through without undue disturbance to the position. then a couple of days practice and your good to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave1372 83 Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 (edited) What skill is required on a pheasant shoot then? I'll bet you a total beginner will be shooting birds by the end of 1 day. If thats what you call skill, well................ What skill is required to take a lead off a dog? I'll bet you a total beginner will be catching rabbits end of day 1. If thats what you call skill, well Edited March 26, 2011 by dave1372 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted March 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 What skill is required on a pheasant shoot then? I'll bet you a total beginner will be shooting birds by the end of 1 day. If thats what you call skill, well................ What skill is required to take a lead off a dog? I'll bet you a total beginner will be catching rabbits end of day 1. If thats what you call skill, well You need to learn how to get close to a wild animal, you need to learn how to train a dog, I know it looks easy but it ain't. We aren't hunting hand raised game you know..... we can't put the dog in a cupboard cos its raining...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave1372 83 Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 ....2 camps evolved, the hunter and the shooter.....the hunter used his ability and guile to catch his prey, enjoying the chase as much as the catch, for him it is all about being one with nature, taking his prey as natural as possible.....the shooter on the other hand, created a gun which helped to hide his lack of accuracy, he got fed up trying to hunt wild animals and produced his own creature to hunt......he bred the most stupidest bird mother nature has ever seen and employed people to scare the birds towards him so he didn't have to move......so here we have arrived at man today, the hunter and the shooter ....yeh right ! Cos letting your dog of the lead is such a difficult thing to do.... . The fact you think that's all you need to do to train a dog etc, only strengthens my point The fact you think shooting requires no skills or fieldcraft, only strengthens my point Both require patience and skill and if you are not able to understand that then most likely that is ignorance on your part shooting's a piece of piss, any retard can learn to shoot. can you read and understand this? 1)The shooting position and hold must be firm enough to support the rifle. 2)The rifle must point naturally at the target without any undue physical effort. 3)Sight alignment and sight picture must be correct. 4)The shot must be released and followed through without undue disturbance to the position. then a couple of days practice and your good to go. Yep right and in two days we can be all world class snipers..............next you will be saying that if you have a driving licence its a piece of piss to do formula one . Can you understand : 1. Buy a running dog 2. Let it off lead to chase stuff How hard is that! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave1372 83 Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 What skill is required on a pheasant shoot then? I'll bet you a total beginner will be shooting birds by the end of 1 day. If thats what you call skill, well................ What skill is required to take a lead off a dog? I'll bet you a total beginner will be catching rabbits end of day 1. If thats what you call skill, well You need to learn how to get close to a wild animal, you need to learn how to train a dog, I know it looks easy but it ain't. We aren't hunting hand raised game you know..... we can't put the dog in a cupboard cos its raining...... ....you are finally getting my point too ! Shooting is more than getting a shotgun and pulling a trigger. Most syndicates have to put a lot of hard work into raising game on a shoot and shooting high pheasants is not as easy as some people make it look. Wildfowlers are out shooting in all weathers. Deer stalking involves a lot of good fieldcraft as does foxing. No doubt guys with dogs have to consider dietary requirements etc to achieve best performance....well shooters have to consider internal/external/terminal ballistics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keeper 51 78 Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Give a man a gun and he will try to feed himself but give a man a dog and the dog will feed himself and the man Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 ....2 camps evolved, the hunter and the shooter.....the hunter used his ability and guile to catch his prey, enjoying the chase as much as the catch, for him it is all about being one with nature, taking his prey as natural as possible.....the shooter on the other hand, created a gun which helped to hide his lack of accuracy, he got fed up trying to hunt wild animals and produced his own creature to hunt......he bred the most stupidest bird mother nature has ever seen and employed people to scare the birds towards him so he didn't have to move......so here we have arrived at man today, the hunter and the shooter ....yeh right ! Cos letting your dog of the lead is such a difficult thing to do.... . Annnnnnnnnnnnnnd we have a Wiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnneeeeeeerrrrr! :toast: :toast: :toast: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Give a man a gun and he will try to feed himself but give a man a dog and the dog will feed himself and the man Unless the man is chinese. . . . . then he'd just eat the dog. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blan89 159 Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 ....2 camps evolved, the hunter and the shooter.....the hunter used his ability and guile to catch his prey, enjoying the chase as much as the catch, for him it is all about being one with nature, taking his prey as natural as possible.....the shooter on the other hand, created a gun which helped to hide his lack of accuracy, he got fed up trying to hunt wild animals and produced his own creature to hunt......he bred the most stupidest bird mother nature has ever seen and employed people to scare the birds towards him so he didn't have to move......so here we have arrived at man today, the hunter and the shooter ....yeh right ! Cos letting your dog of the lead is such a difficult thing to do.... . The fact you think that's all you need to do to train a dog etc, only strengthens my point The fact you think shooting requires no skills or fieldcraft, only strengthens my point Both require patience and skill and if you are not able to understand that then most likely that is ignorance on your part shooting's a piece of piss, any retard can learn to shoot. can you read and understand this? 1)The shooting position and hold must be firm enough to support the rifle. 2)The rifle must point naturally at the target without any undue physical effort. 3)Sight alignment and sight picture must be correct. 4)The shot must be released and followed through without undue disturbance to the position. then a couple of days practice and your good to go. Yep right and in two days we can be all world class snipers..............next you will be saying that if you have a driving licence its a piece of piss to do formula one . Can you understand : 1. Buy a running dog 2. Let it off lead to chase stuff How hard is that! not world class snipers no,but easily good enough to hit a decrepit deer or giant tame bird. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted March 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 What skill is required on a pheasant shoot then? I'll bet you a total beginner will be shooting birds by the end of 1 day. If thats what you call skill, well................ What skill is required to take a lead off a dog? I'll bet you a total beginner will be catching rabbits end of day 1. If thats what you call skill, well You need to learn how to get close to a wild animal, you need to learn how to train a dog, I know it looks easy but it ain't. We aren't hunting hand raised game you know..... we can't put the dog in a cupboard cos its raining...... ....you are finally getting my point too ! Shooting is more than getting a shotgun and pulling a trigger. Most syndicates have to put a lot of hard work into raising game on a shoot and shooting high pheasants is not as easy as some people make it look. Wildfowlers are out shooting in all weathers. Deer stalking involves a lot of good fieldcraft as does foxing. No doubt guys with dogs have to consider dietary requirements etc to achieve best performance....well shooters have to consider internal/external/terminal ballistics. Raising game lol, raising hand fed tame birds to shoot is never hunting mate no matter how hard these birds are to shoot at a height. It's like a fisherman going to fish farms and bragging he caught 3, two and a half lb trout....big f*****g deal. I appreciate there are folk who stalk but thats a totally different type of hunter from your average beer gutted, fat arsed shooter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
staffs riffraff 1,068 Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 What a thread lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AL BUNDY 45 Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 What skill is required on a pheasant shoot then? I'll bet you a total beginner will be shooting birds by the end of 1 day. If thats what you call skill, well................ What skill is required to take a lead off a dog? I'll bet you a total beginner will be catching rabbits end of day 1. If thats what you call skill, well You need to learn how to get close to a wild animal, you need to learn how to train a dog, I know it looks easy but it ain't. We aren't hunting hand raised game you know..... we can't put the dog in a cupboard cos its raining...... ....you are finally getting my point too ! Shooting is more than getting a shotgun and pulling a trigger. Most syndicates have to put a lot of hard work into raising game on a shoot and shooting high pheasants is not as easy as some people make it look. Wildfowlers are out shooting in all weathers. Deer stalking involves a lot of good fieldcraft as does foxing. No doubt guys with dogs have to consider dietary requirements etc to achieve best performance....well shooters have to consider internal/external/terminal ballistics. Raising game lol, raising hand fed tame birds to shoot is never hunting mate no matter how hard these birds are to shoot at a height. It's like a fisherman going to fish farms and bragging he caught 3, two and a half lb trout....big f*****g deal. I appreciate there are folk who stalk but thats a totally different type of hunter from your average beer gutted, fat arsed shooter are you thinking of someone, or just covering the lot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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