gazzer 1 Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Hi folks.....i am fortunate enough now to have a fair amount of land to shoot on..lots of woodland and a 500 acre farm with lots of hedgerows....i have a plummer terrier that i bought for ratting but as daft as it sounds there just isnt any quality ratting around here anymore..farmers are always saying they have loads but when you get there mob handed with pack of dogs,smokers etc theres the odd one...i feel my terrier isnt getting the work he craves....as does happen i have naturally moved on to rough shoots and pigeon shooting...i have tried to use my plummer as much as poss for flushing but hes just not getting it and i dont have the time to train him......now....i have managed to talk the missus around as she has refused to allow me another dog..but i now have a huge kennel being given me by a friend to house a new dog....i would really like a spaniel,pref ESS ...the missus as i said has come round to the idea but i really dont have any serious money to spend.....now....here is my dialemma...........i am aware for a quality dog that i will have to pay decent money....but its been mentioned to me that some dog owners/breeder may have a similar problem and want a swap for a ratting dog.....to me this seems a little unfair on my dog (he near 3 yrs old now)..however i would prefer him to do what he likes best....i cant take him shooting with me as he becomes a pain,doesnt like the noise etc.....but i need a gundog.....what do you experts advise?????........would a swap be a decent thing to do??.....also...if i was to buy a spaniel....bearing in mind i have limited time to train....should i buy a pup or one thats partially trained to flush/retrieve???.....if so, how much should i expect to pay.....any sensible advice will be greatly appreciated...thanks guys. Quote Link to post
biglee 1 3 Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) its really up to you if you want a swap but u mite not get a good spaniel u cud get a pain in the arse dog ie 1 thats hard mouthed or unsteady because someone hoo has spent time traning wouldnt swap a good working spaniel so what am saying is if u swap then u cud end up with a monkey but if u buy a part trained u can pay anything from 400 to 1200 u say u have limited time to train so i would suggest part trained but getting a dog from a pup an traniing it up and eventually shooting over it an seeing ur hard work pay off is the best feeling id go for a pup every time bud just my opinion tho atb Edited March 24, 2011 by biglee 1 Quote Link to post
ftm 3,357 Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 its really up to you if you want a swap but u mite not get a good spaniel u cud get a pain in the arse dog ie 1 thats hard mouthed or unsteady because someone hoo has spent time traning wouldnt swap a good working spaniel so what am saying is if u swap then u cud end up with a monkey but if u buy a part trained u can pay anything from 400 to 1200 u say u have limited time to train so i would suggest part trained but getting a dog from a pup an traniing it up and eventually shooting over it an seeing ur hard work pay off is the best feeling id go for a pup every time bud just my opinion tho atb i would buy a pup mate Quote Link to post
events co-ordinator 353 Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 You already have a dog that by your own admission you did not have time to train and you want to swap it for another one you wont have time to train even if you buy a fully trained dog you will still have to find time to work it and reinforce its training the problems not the dogs its TIME, you have to make it ther is NO shortcut the more TIME you spend with a dog the better the end result so I think you need to have a serious think before you make a move YIS. 1 Quote Link to post
Geoffer 0 Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 You could always try for a 2 for 1 offer mate, throw that thing your missus has got into the deal! Quote Link to post
Guest dee mac Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 pity your not a bit nearer too me mate i ve a six year old chocolate sprocker here i would off given him too you for nothing he hunts and retrieves altho he d need a little work done getting him back on the whistle but he s a genuine dog too work. Quote Link to post
gazzer 1 Posted March 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 hahah good shout geoffer. you are correct on the "time" situation of course......hence me asking about part trained dogs,i do have "some" time just not quite as much as id like.... Quote Link to post
scott_hall 0 Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 i have a sproker spaniel springer x cocker just turned 1. he is a beuitful dog and very intelligent like most spaniel's ... a dont think many people will be prepared to swap for a spaniel might be best off buyin 1 and keep the two dog next to each other in different kennle's and just introduse them slowy to stop either dog gettin hurt mate Quote Link to post
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