Fully trained or not?

[Japesy 0]

Hi

 

I've had a litter of Cocker X Springador pups (I know it's a weird cross but both parents are great workers and they make excellent dogs, I had the same mating a couple of years ago), both working parents, great looking pups. I had the litter hoping to sell them all to working homes but the 3 I've sold so far have gone as pets.

 

They're 8 1/2 weeks old now. Do you think I could sell one easily if I fully trained it rather than selling it as a pup? How much would a fully trained cross go for?

 

Any info would be appreciated

 

Also, I know what this site is like so if you have any strong opinions on the cross please don't write on this topic about it, I just want to know whether it would be worth training one or not

 

Thanks

[patdahat 41]

Hi

 

I've had a litter of Cocker X Springador pups (I know it's a weird cross but both parents are great workers and they make excellent dogs, I had the same mating a couple of years ago), both working parents, great looking pups. I had the litter hoping to sell them all to working homes but the 3 I've sold so far have gone as pets.

 

They're 8 1/2 weeks old now. Do you think I could sell one easily if I fully trained it rather than selling it as a pup? How much would a fully trained cross go for?

 

Any info would be appreciated

 

Also, I know what this site is like so if you have any strong opinions on the cross please don't write on this topic about it, I just want to know whether it would be worth training one or not

 

Thanks

 

def worth it if you have the time a good working sprocker should be no bother gotten rid of after as there is people that just work crosses.

[Japesy 0]

Hi

 

I've had a litter of Cocker X Springador pups (I know it's a weird cross but both parents are great workers and they make excellent dogs, I had the same mating a couple of years ago), both working parents, great looking pups. I had the litter hoping to sell them all to working homes but the 3 I've sold so far have gone as pets.

 

They're 8 1/2 weeks old now. Do you think I could sell one easily if I fully trained it rather than selling it as a pup? How much would a fully trained cross go for?

 

Any info would be appreciated

 

Also, I know what this site is like so if you have any strong opinions on the cross please don't write on this topic about it, I just want to know whether it would be worth training one or not

 

Thanks

 

def worth it if you have the time a good working sprocker should be no bother gotten rid of after as there is people that just work crosses.

 

Thanks for the reply

 

Yeh I want to know if it's worth my time tbh, I've got my eye on the one I'd use and want to make my mind up before he is sold. How much do you think I'd be able to charge for him once trained?

[danw 1,748]

Not worth the time and effort no one will pay big money for a trained bitsa even trained pure cockers from established kennels don't make the profit margin that a selling a 8week pup does

[markha 99]

I would just sell as a pup, your not going to get much more for a part trained cross breed.

[patdahat 41]

i have seen these crosses working(hunting cover,retrieving, conimg back to the whistle) making 350/400 euro, for rough shooting woodcock.

[tommytli 2]

any pics? how much are the pups?

[rickymac14 3]

your get £300 tops for a trained cross like that no matter how much you talk it up

[poacher3161 1,766]

Got to agree with some of the posts with it being a cross bred you wont get wat you would get if it was a pure bred gundog no matter how well trained it was as their is an element of snobbery in some gundog circules i have even noticed this even with unregisterd pure breeds.atb dell

[mackay 3,404]

Innoculations, worming, feeding then pay yourself the national minimum wage for each hour spent training, even if you do enjoy it, it's now working for someone elses benefit.

What's the pup worth now, how much the finished item, subtract the first from the second and I would guess you'd be well out of pocket.

[danw 1,748]

If you think a docked and dewed cocker is worth £600 as a pup without innocs a part trained cocker including innocs is worth 850-1000 by the time you have fed it to 10 months and put the time in it just is not worth it and that is for pedigree pups, most part trained dogs are sold cause they aren't going to make the grade as ftch so it is better to cut your losses than carry a dog which won't achieve the level you wan't

[patdahat 41]

Got to agree with some of the posts with it being a cross bred you wont get wat you would get if it was a pure bred gundog no matter how well trained it was as their is an element of snobbery in some gundog circules i have even noticed this even with unregisterd pure breeds.atb dell

 

a cross breed will make the prics if it is doing the job it supposed to for the person working it.

it's not going to make the price of competion breeding but for the rough shooting person or beating up, it should make the price of other dogs in the same category.

[Lloyd90 509]

Got to agree with some of the posts with it being a cross bred you wont get wat you would get if it was a pure bred gundog no matter how well trained it was as their is an element of snobbery in some gundog circules i have even noticed this even with unregisterd pure breeds.atb dell

 

a cross breed will make the prics if it is doing the job it supposed to for the person working it.

it's not going to make the price of competion breeding but for the rough shooting person or beating up, it should make the price of other dogs in the same category.

 

no it wouldn't.

 

If I wanted a dog for rough shooting and one was this cross the other a trained spaniel with papers and such both costing the same then without a doubt would pick the spaniel.

 

As said, wont be worth much more than a pup, even dogs with papers and are fully trained dont make there owners a profit when they let them go. I know a guy who field trials labradors and he just sold a 2 year old fully trained bitch for the same price as a pup as it just didnt make the grade for competition.

 

He was more concerned it went to a good home rather than making back some money!

[Dan Newcombe 58]

I wouldnt expect to make any ral money out of it

 

BUT

 

every dog you train makes your next dog better so the next dog you train is likely to be better.

 

I am planning a litter of cockers next year and will keep one to sell at about 10 months trained (or as far as it gets in that time). It will make a bit more money but i doubt it will cover costs but its another dog trained under the belt and that can only help the next one

 

who is the bloke that got rid of a full trained lab if you dont mind me asking. im looking for a young dog to bring on for shooting this season and that sort of thing would suit me well

 

Dan

[poacher3161 1,766]

A well known feild trialer from my area who a lad bought a springer off because it wasent flashy enough charged him a thousand pound for it some how i dont think the lad would have paid that for a cross bred.