steady to game

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All lurchers should be trained to do as told when and where.

 

Yep!

Although a lot on here would say it's not possible, but they are total cnuts.

 

LEE GREEN MISUNDERSTOOD YOUR COMMENT.

MY APOLOGIES

[birddog 1,354]

she'd been on the lead passing the hens, and on the lead wi the sheep a dozen times before off the lead scatty hen shouldn't have been there. shes been well sorted for ages. i'm trying to find out how many real decent hunters think that a dog dropping to flushed deer is a good thing or how many guys on here have either the dog, the skill or the inclination to train their dog properly (in my opinion) or how many just want a running/killing machine that takes anything in front of it

[Catcher 1 639]

Catcher1 - You said "all lurchers should be trained to do as told when and where."

 

I agree that basic obedience is important and stock breaking is paramount. Are you saying you could tell your dogs not to give chase if something got up? And you could call them off chasing a rabbit for example?

 

Atb. Gaz.

 

 

Yes. Had two dogs in my lifetime i could hold back.If a hare or rabbit got up in front of me.If the dog was beside me or working up to ten yards in front.Most times i could stop them.

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CATCHER1/DEFO

 

LEEGREEN WOULDNT WANT TO TAKE YOUR TRUMPETS OR YOU NEAR OUR FARM

OR ANYWHERELSE.

IF YOU CANNY CONTROL YOUR DOGS YOU SHOULDNT HAVE DOGS.

I think you misunderstood me mush.

My dogs are as steady as any, read my post again and understand it. I was agreeing with catcher.

 

 

LEE GREEN APOLOGY AGAIN .

MY MISTAKE

[leegreen 2,210]

All lurchers should be trained to do as told when and where.

 

Yep!

Although a lot on here would say it's not possible, but they are total cnuts.

 

LEE GREEN MISUNDERSTOOD YOUR COMMENT.

MY APOLOGIES

[birddog 1,354]

ive had a couple like that over the years, not all collie bred, had a beddie cross in the early 's that had instant obedience and in those days we took all sorts with him

[Ideation 8,216]

I'm confused what you are asking. You say should a rabbiting lurcher be steady to other game, i.e broken to deer, fox, hare, birds and just hunt rabbit. But then you talk about stock training/breaking. Two different things i think. My dog will wander through the chickens in the garden, but peg pheasants with relish, is ferret broken but i think would kill a mink, lives to catch rabbits, but didnt have much interest in my mums pet rabbit. If you let a pet rabbit go in the woods, or a brown chicken burst out of a hedge. . . . . he'd probably grab them.

[birddog 1,354]

are a keepers deer or your mums pet rabbits not just stock the way sheep or chickens are ? i'm not saying anyway is right or wrong i'm only asking opinions

[Catcher 1 639]

In my lamping days.I worked two dogs of the lead.And could send them out one at a time.Any dog will chase.But it takes hard training to make a dog stand its ground.

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CATCHER1.

TRAIN MY DOGS TO STAND FAST.TAKES TIME BUT ALL COME GOOD OR ELSE.

[Ideation 8,216]

are a keepers deer or your mums pet rabbits not just stock the way sheep or chickens are ? i'm not saying anyway is right or wrong i'm only asking opinions

 

Sorry, what i meant was, it's situational, at least i think so. So the rabbit was in a garage, in a pen, didnt really run away, or act like a rabbit, and the chickens are in a garden, if the deer were penned by the house then he would break to them with exposure etc, but i don't think (yet) that i or he have mastered making him steady to wild game that we don't wish to pursue. Maybe because the occasion does not arrive, but at this age his prey drive (or maybe my bad training?) is stronger than his desire to heed what i'm saying. I could 'shout' him off legitimate game that got up maybe, but not call him off, and i have enough difficulty holding his attention if we are on land he knows we hunt and he smells something close by. So i could shout him off a cat (maybe), but i dont think i could break him to one unless i put him in a situation where he was exposed to one for a period and i drummed in the message. There is a difference between breaking to something (you could break a dog to ANYTHING) and being able to hold a dog back with gentle voice commands as the quarry legs it into the sun. Very impressive that.

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CATCHER1.

TRAIN MY DOGS TO STAND FAST.TAKES TIME BUT ALL COME GOOD OR ELSE.

 

 

Well bud.In my book an untrained dog is an actsident waiting to happen.What more can i say.

[Ideation 8,216]

CATCHER1.

TRAIN MY DOGS TO STAND FAST.TAKES TIME BUT ALL COME GOOD OR ELSE.

 

 

Well bud.In my book an untrained dog is an actsident waiting to happen.What more can i say.

 

Totally agree! But would you consider a dog you can not call off any chase when you want untrained?

[Catcher 1 639]

CATCHER1.

TRAIN MY DOGS TO STAND FAST.TAKES TIME BUT ALL COME GOOD OR ELSE.

 

 

Well bud.In my book an untrained dog is an actsident waiting to happen.What more can i say.

 

Totally agree! But would you consider a dog you can not call off any chase when you want untrained?

 

 

Never.The two dogs i could call off had to be done just as they started to go.When the dogs off it,s off and no one can call it back.

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

I think there are very different levels of training.

 

To me being able to Lamp 2 dogs off lead and send them 1 at a time as mentioned above is a very high level of training and something I would never have the time or want to do. But each to there own.

 

If my dog comes to his name, retrieves on command jumps on command and will stay at the other side of a fence then that is enough for me.