poacher3161 1,766 Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 after all said an done were far along now in the lurchers to never need to add greyhound blood again full stop. in my eyes i know otheres will disagree but they greyhound can give nothing positive to a lurcher now, some say speed but why not use a generation courseing dog they have much more to offer, the greyhound is the weak link Totally agree 100 pct.Going past first crosses baised on my exspeirience their is no need for further greyhound blood being introduced into an already greyhond baised lurcher. Quote Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 after all said an done were far along now in the lurchers to never need to add greyhound blood again full stop. in my eyes i know otheres will disagree but they greyhound can give nothing positive to a lurcher now, some say speed but why not use a generation courseing dog they have much more to offer, the greyhound is the weak link Totally agree 100 pct.Going past first crosses baised on my exspeirience their is no need for further greyhound blood being introduced into an already greyhond baised lurcher. Have to disagree DELL.Allways room for new blood bred with the right dog.I know your a lurcher to lurcher man as i am myself.But a small fast grey on a good proven dog.Can start a good line. Quote Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 after all said an done were far along now in the lurchers to never need to add greyhound blood again full stop. in my eyes i know otheres will disagree but they greyhound can give nothing positive to a lurcher now, some say speed but why not use a generation courseing dog they have much more to offer, the greyhound is the weak link Totally agree 100 pct.Going past first crosses baised on my exspeirience their is no need for further greyhound blood being introduced into an already greyhond baised lurcher. Have to disagree DELL.Allways room for new blood bred with the right dog.I know your a lurcher to lurcher man as i am myself.But a small fast grey on a good proven dog.Can start a good line..Or maybe MOOS right we dont need speed. Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 after all said an done were far along now in the lurchers to never need to add greyhound blood again full stop. in my eyes i know otheres will disagree but they greyhound can give nothing positive to a lurcher now, some say speed but why not use a generation courseing dog they have much more to offer, the greyhound is the weak link Totally agree 100 pct.Going past first crosses baised on my exspeirience their is no need for further greyhound blood being introduced into an already greyhond baised lurcher. Have to disagree DELL.Allways room for new blood bred with the right dog.I know your a lurcher to lurcher man as i am myself.But a small fast grey on a good proven dog.Can start a good line. Maybe i was just unlucky the 3 times i bred back to greyhounds but to be honest better pups were produced [bANNED TEXT] i bred out of a small coursing bitch that came off a well known coursing farmer in the area than those out of two bigger bitches that came of the track. Quote Link to post
MOO 730 Posted March 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 MOO You never have ran or bred track greyhounds.But there you go shouting that big gob again.Then wounder why poeple wont answers your questions.There just maybe someone out there who knows more than you.(Think you do). why am I shouting my big gob ? Quote Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 after all said an done were far along now in the lurchers to never need to add greyhound blood again full stop. in my eyes i know otheres will disagree but they greyhound can give nothing positive to a lurcher now, some say speed but why not use a generation courseing dog they have much more to offer, the greyhound is the weak link Totally agree 100 pct.Going past first crosses baised on my exspeirience their is no need for further greyhound blood being introduced into an already greyhond baised lurcher. Have to disagree DELL.Allways room for new blood bred with the right dog.I know your a lurcher to lurcher man as i am myself.But a small fast grey on a good proven dog.Can start a good line. Maybe i was just unlucky the 3 times i bred back to greyhounds but to be honest better pups were produced [bANNED TEXT] i bred out of a small coursing bitch that came off a well known coursing farmer in the area than those out of two bigger bitches that came of the track. And i agree more often they do.But get the right dogs together and you have the begining of a good line. Quote Link to post
king squirrel 53 Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 have read this with great interest i have had and seen a few grey hounds run but they were above three years old and where stuck in there ways and habits.anyway everyone of here knows stewie and a few months back i had a 18 month grey bitch off of him.now when i first started taking the bitch out she was ignorant when ran on lamp for first time she caught a big rabb.i kept taking the bitch and her speed is blistering and she was doing all the things you would expect a grey and a YOUNG RUNNING dog to do overshooting on turns when running buy the way this bitch has retrieved everything she has caught and been able to carry back.at the start her speed was causeing her problems and she had a few knocks but after keep putting stuff in front of her she has started to adapt and she catches rabbits with ease and as for game this bitch will have ago at anything and has been on everything and she is no big bullx all i ask of her is that she TRYS 100% and no one could say that she dont try very good to watch not bad wind plenty of guts GOD LOVES A TRIER.now am not saying all of them are like this and she could get killed tommorrow(the same as any running or working dog)but i think if gotten from a young age as possible and have physically sound parents then there not as brain dead as people think i am glad i took a gamble on her and when lamping sometimes my heart is in my mouth but as said its early days i think they adapt there running just the same as any other running dog atb ks 1 Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 have read this with great interest i have had and seen a few grey hounds run but they were above three years old and where stuck in there ways and habits.anyway everyone of here knows stewie and a few months back i had a 18 month grey bitch off of him.now when i first started taking the bitch out she was ignorant when ran on lamp for first time she caught a big rabb.i kept taking the bitch and her speed is blistering and she was doing all the things you would expect a grey and a YOUNG RUNNING dog to do overshooting on turns when running buy the way this bitch has retrieved everything she has caught and been able to carry back.at the start her speed was causeing her problems and she had a few knocks but after keep putting stuff in front of her she has started to adapt and she catches rabbits with ease and as for game this bitch will have ago at anything and has been on everything and she is no big bullx all i ask of her is that she TRYS 100% and no one could say that she dont try very good to watch not bad wind plenty of guts GOD LOVES A TRIER.now am not saying all of them are like this and she could get killed tommorrow(the same as any running or working dog)but i think if gotten from a young age as possible and have physically sound parents then there not as brain dead as people think i am glad i took a gamble on her and when lamping sometimes my heart is in my mouth but as said its early days i think they adapt there running just the same as any other running dog atb ks Well written mate, good read that. I don't know what your terrain is like, my fear with greyhounds is fences, what is she like with them? Quote Link to post
staffs riffraff 1,068 Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 have read this with great interest i have had and seen a few grey hounds run but they were above three years old and where stuck in there ways and habits.anyway everyone of here knows stewie and a few months back i had a 18 month grey bitch off of him.now when i first started taking the bitch out she was ignorant when ran on lamp for first time she caught a big rabb.i kept taking the bitch and her speed is blistering and she was doing all the things you would expect a grey and a YOUNG RUNNING dog to do overshooting on turns when running buy the way this bitch has retrieved everything she has caught and been able to carry back.at the start her speed was causeing her problems and she had a few knocks but after keep putting stuff in front of her she has started to adapt and she catches rabbits with ease and as for game this bitch will have ago at anything and has been on everything and she is no big bullx all i ask of her is that she TRYS 100% and no one could say that she dont try very good to watch not bad wind plenty of guts GOD LOVES A TRIER.now am not saying all of them are like this and she could get killed tommorrow(the same as any running or working dog)but i think if gotten from a young age as possible and have physically sound parents then there not as brain dead as people think i am glad i took a gamble on her and when lamping sometimes my heart is in my mouth but as said its early days i think they adapt there running just the same as any other running dog atb ks sen his dog go from a complete noviceto the next couple times went out do as good as any lurcher really she uses her speed more wisely now as she has had the game put in front of her and she has adapted well couldnt believe it when i seen her running behind a rabbit then all of a sudden a huge burst of speed to take it made me laugh that did lol Quote Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 have read this with great interest i have had and seen a few grey hounds run but they were above three years old and where stuck in there ways and habits.anyway everyone of here knows stewie and a few months back i had a 18 month grey bitch off of him.now when i first started taking the bitch out she was ignorant when ran on lamp for first time she caught a big rabb.i kept taking the bitch and her speed is blistering and she was doing all the things you would expect a grey and a YOUNG RUNNING dog to do overshooting on turns when running buy the way this bitch has retrieved everything she has caught and been able to carry back.at the start her speed was causeing her problems and she had a few knocks but after keep putting stuff in front of her she has started to adapt and she catches rabbits with ease and as for game this bitch will have ago at anything and has been on everything and she is no big bullx all i ask of her is that she TRYS 100% and no one could say that she dont try very good to watch not bad wind plenty of guts GOD LOVES A TRIER.now am not saying all of them are like this and she could get killed tommorrow(the same as any running or working dog)but i think if gotten from a young age as possible and have physically sound parents then there not as brain dead as people think i am glad i took a gamble on her and when lamping sometimes my heart is in my mouth but as said its early days i think they adapt there running just the same as any other running dog atb ks sen his dog go from a complete noviceto the next couple times went out do as good as any lurcher really she uses her speed more wisely now as she has had the game put in front of her and she has adapted well couldnt believe it when i seen her running behind a rabbit then all of a sudden a huge burst of speed to take it made me laugh that did lol You just may have anserwered MOOS question.Speed wisely used. Quote Link to post
staffs riffraff 1,068 Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 couldnt believe it catcher jst a burst of speed for about 5/10 yards when she needed it Quote Link to post
john* 17 Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 well lads iv got a pup thats back to a full grayhound so will coment better in a couple of years lol Quote Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 couldnt believe it catcher jst a burst of speed for about 5/10 yards when she needed it As MOO and his friend allways say you cant polish a turd. .Wish you well mate. Quote Link to post
SPOTTY BACKED BIG RACK 90 Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 have read this with great interest i have had and seen a few grey hounds run but they were above three years old and where stuck in there ways and habits.anyway everyone of here knows stewie and a few months back i had a 18 month grey bitch off of him.now when i first started taking the bitch out she was ignorant when ran on lamp for first time she caught a big rabb.i kept taking the bitch and her speed is blistering and she was doing all the things you would expect a grey and a YOUNG RUNNING dog to do overshooting on turns when running buy the way this bitch has retrieved everything she has caught and been able to carry back.at the start her speed was causeing her problems and she had a few knocks but after keep putting stuff in front of her she has started to adapt and she catches rabbits with ease and as for game this bitch will have ago at anything and has been on everything and she is no big bullx all i ask of her is that she TRYS 100% and no one could say that she dont try very good to watch not bad wind plenty of guts GOD LOVES A TRIER.now am not saying all of them are like this and she could get killed tommorrow(the same as any running or working dog)but i think if gotten from a young age as possible and have physically sound parents then there not as brain dead as people think i am glad i took a gamble on her and when lamping sometimes my heart is in my mouth but as said its early days i think they adapt there running just the same as any other running dog atb ks Sounds like she is of the right minerals and worthy to be bred from. The problem is to many litters are being bred out of failed track greyhounds that have had not been used in the way you are using yours. 2 tested parents are much more lightly to produce decent pups. IMO if a greyhound is going to be used to produce lurcher pups it should be putting more than just speed into the pot. Quote Link to post
leegreen 2,173 Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 I brought got a non ped whippet out of a racing kennels for my son and it has turned out to be a very useful little bitch. It is 21-22", 28-30lb, 3years old now and I am quite keen to line this bitch soley for her speed, drive and nimbleness. She catches as many rabbits as I am willing to carry and she is a good catch dog but lacks finish. Obedience is great, she is lamps of the slip, retrieves, jumps and is very steady. I would say there are many reasons for using racing stock, but as will all pups you pay your money you take your chance and as aways it is what you put into them that turns a good dog into a great dog. Quote Link to post
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