Track dog blood

[Leeview 791]

confirmation? since whens that important in working luchers who cares what the dog looks like if it does its job well confirmations for showing and showing means nowt.....

afraid confirmation is everything in a running dog if it cant move right how is it going to run right?

Y.I.S Leeview

[SPOTTY BACKED BIG RACK 90]

The problem with breeding out of track greyhound bitchs is to many are breeding out of lamed or failed dogs which have not seen any sort of lurcher work in there lives. A greyhound to be used in the breeding of lurchers should to a degree be able and have the right temperment to do jobs a lurcher is required to do, obviously not to the standard a lurcher can or we would not need lurchers would we?

 

Good lines of lurchers will produce slower dogs now and then but these dogs can go on to produce faster dogs than themselfs have been. Where it tends to go wrong and lines get spoilt IMO is trying to speed the line up by adding second rate untested and failed track greyhound blood.

 

Adding greyhound blood can be a quick fix for speed but at the risk of losing stamina, wind, good feet and the right temperment for the job.

 

Was it Plummer who said "any old greyhound will do" ?

[Plong 21]

The reason for cross breeding with a greyhound is to add traits to the greyhound not the collie, bull, or what ever else. Ie brain, feet, size, stamina. The greyhound is the ultimate running dog but sometimes needs a bit of fine tunning through cross breeding to suit the job.

Edited March 19, 2011 by Plong

[SPOTTY BACKED BIG RACK 90]

The reason for cross breeding with a greyhound is to add traits to the greyhound not the collie, bull, or what ever else. Ie brain, feet, size, stamina. The greyhound is the ultimate running dog but sometimes needs a bit of fine tunning through cross breeding to suit the job.

 

Not really true, lots of lurchers have started from bitch collie, bull, saluki, deerhound etc etc etc and a greyhound sire, because the traits of the dam are required with more speed.

[Plong 21]

The reason for cross breeding with a greyhound is to add traits to the greyhound not the collie, bull, or what ever else. Ie brain, feet, size, stamina. The greyhound is the ultimate running dog but sometimes needs a bit of fine tunning through cross breeding to suit the job.

 

Not really true, lots of lurchers have started from bitch collie, bull, saluki, deerhound etc etc etc and a greyhound sire, because the traits of the dam are required with more speed.

Yes but are they any better for it? Having seen some of these crosses I stand by what I said and that a lot of them would be better dogs if they had a bit more greyhound in them. I have mates that are breeding little more than mongrals and think they are running dogs.

[SPOTTY BACKED BIG RACK 90]

Yes but are they any better for it? Having seen some of these crosses I stand by what I said and that a lot of them would be better dogs if they had a bit more greyhound in them. I have mates that are breeding little more than mongrals and think they are running dogs.

 

Your defination of a running dog and how much greyhound blood needs to be in it and when that greyhound blood needs to be added differs from mine which is fair enough we all have our opinions

[bradaz2009 9]

you add greyhound blood because if you just bred the fastest collie to fastest collie it wouldn't quite work would it now or bull x bull or bedlington but if you get a standard greyhound it will be fast enough to catch do your dogs have grey in them if they do why?

[birddog 1,354]

the silence you speak of says only 2 words for me NIGHT SHIFT ! did you not understand my original post ? speaking only of the 3 dogs who have i think 16yrs between them of racing/hunting and only 1 foot injury from that you get good feet. i also said they hunted up well probably indicating decent nose as well as hunting instinct. i also spoke of their retriving to hand another excellent quality for a lurcher. conformation as you can see from recently added pics is excellent throughout these particular lines and to disagree with another user on this subject correct conformation is essential in a running dog i,m not saying that ugly dogs cant work but how much better would they be if they were put together properly. oh and i nearly forgot using racing blood of whatever breed or lineage you get speed a pretty much essential quality for a lurcher. i hope this helps you understand what racing blood can give to a lurcher.

[foresterj 1,096]

confirmation? since whens that important in working luchers who cares what the dog looks like if it does its job well confirmations for showing and showing means nowt.....

conformation isnt important in a working lurcher????!!!!so a dog without correct conformation will work,u gotta lot to learn mate! Edited March 19, 2011 by foresterj

[MOO 730]

the silence you speak of says only 2 words for me NIGHT SHIFT ! did you not understand my original post ? speaking only of the 3 dogs who have i think 16yrs between them of racing/hunting and only 1 foot injury from that you get good feet. i also said they hunted up well probably indicating decent nose as well as hunting instinct. i also spoke of their retriving to hand another excellent quality for a lurcher. conformation as you can see from recently added pics is excellent throughout these particular lines and to disagree with another user on this subject correct conformation is essential in a running dog i,m not saying that ugly dogs cant work but how much better would they be if they were put together properly. oh and i nearly forgot using racing blood of whatever breed or lineage you get speed a pretty much essential quality for a lurcher. i hope this helps you understand what racing blood can give to a lurcher.

So agree that the onlything a track dog brings to the mix is speed as they may not offer wind, feet, strike, and any other attributes required by a lurcher that is justified for breeding from ...as for track dogs being game ....the word game is used all to often in the dog world and my deffinition of the word game is very very differant to some

[birddog 1,354]

having already explained about the feet, hunting instinct, nose, retrieving, conformation and speed of this particular mix and you have not picked it up yet, i'll add that by using this blend the breeder is also hoping to reduce the size thus adding nimbleness and turning ability. the reduction in size as others have mentioned can also help reduce injuries as the lighter bodyweight reduces the amount of strain on tendons joints etc when working and turning. not all offspring will inherit every quality but by using quality racing blood like this the chances are only improved. as to the gameness bit that i have not spoken of orford in his breeding of the modern greyhound introduced real bull blood a long time ago and that is where racing dogs get there gameness from as well as rose shaped ears and brindle colouring. have you never seen a racing dog complete a race with a broken leg, or in the old days now a coursing greyhound continuing with a hock swinging that to me anyway would exemplify the degree of genuine gameness they possess.

[chartpolski 23,698]

I did say in a previous post, that hardbloods only give speed to a Lurcher cross; but thinking about it, I've had some non-peds who's strike and mouth were pretty good !

 

Cheers.

[optimus 447]

I did say in a previous post, that hardbloods only give speed to a Lurcher cross; but thinking about it, I've had some non-peds who's strike and mouth were pretty good !

 

Cheers.

I BOUGHT IN AN ADULT HARDBLOOD BITCH FROM CASINO LINES FOR BREEDING PURPOSES. NEVER BEEN HUNTED, BUT WHAT A NOSE SHE HAD ON HER, HAD I REARED HER FOR FIELD NOT TRACK SHE WOULD HAVE MADE A HANDY BITCH. WOULD HEAD FOR THE WOODS & COVER TO HUNT EVERYTIME I TOOK HER OUT

[baw 4,360]

confirmation? since whens that important in working luchers who cares what the dog looks like if it does its job well confirmations for showing and showing means nowt.....

afraid confirmation is everything in a running dog if it cant move right how is it going to run right?

Y.I.S Leeview

 

the guy is a clown, he was on the shooting thread where someone put a picture up with a deer with overgrown feet, he asked how did that happen???

[baw 4,360]

the silence you speak of says only 2 words for me NIGHT SHIFT ! did you not understand my original post ? speaking only of the 3 dogs who have i think 16yrs between them of racing/hunting and only 1 foot injury from that you get good feet. i also said they hunted up well probably indicating decent nose as well as hunting instinct. i also spoke of their retriving to hand another excellent quality for a lurcher. conformation as you can see from recently added pics is excellent throughout these particular lines and to disagree with another user on this subject correct conformation is essential in a running dog i,m not saying that ugly dogs cant work but how much better would they be if they were put together properly. oh and i nearly forgot using racing blood of whatever breed or lineage you get speed a pretty much essential quality for a lurcher. i hope this helps you understand what racing blood can give to a lurcher.

So agree that the onlything a track dog brings to the mix is speed as they may not offer wind, feet, strike, and any other attributes required by a lurcher that is justified for breeding from ...as for track dogs being game ....the word game is used all to often in the dog world and my deffinition of the word game is very very differant to some

 

 

People use track dogs cos they are ten a penny imho, no other reason for it. Everyone would love to have a top grade coursing greyhound to use but they are in short supply, whereas track dogs........