A newby with a question!

[Big bald beautiful 1,231]

It will not happen because of the breeders not wanting certain blood in there linage.breeders pick the neatest or the best dog to standard and often reject a better worker because it has breed faults.too much white.could through tri colours etc

[Guest dee mac]

It will not happen because of the breeders not wanting certain blood in there linage.breeders pick the neatest or the best dog to standard and often reject a better worker because it has breed faults.too much white.could through tri colours etc

if plummer owners are more worried about standard and colour then i doubt the plummer will always be veiwed as a wannabe but too be honest i never held out much hope for it as majourity of plummer owners are not what you d call old traditional terrier people .i think the main aim of most of these clubs and so called breeders is cash and the holy grail a class at crufts sad but true.

[stormyboy 1,352]

It will not happen because of the breeders not wanting certain blood in there linage.breeders pick the neatest or the best dog to standard and often reject a better worker because it has breed faults.too much white.could through tri colours etc

 

This has been happening since the outset.

[burny2011 12]

what gud is papper work with a proper dog that work all day most of the kc dog would never be at the side of my dog when we go out because they could would not keep up with any of my dogs .So as it gos a proper terrier will never need papper work ie look at pic of the old fox terrier and look at that one that was at cruffs this year in the lats 7 if thats what the kc dus for dog then i dont wont a kc dog and i hope they NEVER let patterdale in because the dog we have now will be gone for good and then u will have somethink to mone about BECAUSE WHEN THE MONEY MEN GET A HOLD OF YOU BREED OG DOG ITS OVER ALL THEY WONT IS MORE £££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££

[Tomm Parr 30]

Check out the topic about bull terriers and the difference between modern ones and those of 50y ago.

 

It happens with all dogs at one time or another, all todays breeds look different to days gone by. An old neighbour of mine (died last year aged 94, he fought in Burma against the Japs - some cracking tales but that's another story...) told me about his Yorkies from the 20's and 30's: Absolute dynamos after rats and rabbits with short fur apparently! You can't really imagine it now, what with half of modern Yorkies having plaited fur and living in a posh birds' handbags.

 

I hope that in 50y we don't see today's good working dogs (patts, plummers, lakies, etc) looking and acting different. There are loads of idiots who want a dog because of how it looks or because their pal told them they are tough; you can guarantee that it'll get worse now they've seen the terrier section at crufts too! There is even some numbnut on these forums asking for chocolate patterdales becasue they are apparently better workers!?! Bigger cash-cows more like! We have to keep the dogs out of the hands of the peddlers and yummy mummys or we'll have to start making our own new breeds like Dr Plummer did in the 60s and 70s.

 

Look at the border terrier, 15y ago you never saw them anywhere unless you were involved in work/pest control, now they are everywhere! Before anyone freaks out, I am not anti-Border! They are cracking dogs, I just don't like the fact that a few appearances in 90's Hollywood films has made them worringly popular with the loveydoveys.

[Cleanspade 3,322]

there are somr very good working russells you need to look around for the right stock.

[burny2011 12]

could not get my hands on jr terrier when i wonted one and i would never get one with a kc .so i went for the patterdale terrier hard little dog and as fare as collour gos its got nothing to do with it its all down to what it can do when the time comes and its up to the dog if it wonts to work or not because NOT every terrier will work !!!!!!!!!!!!!!