Obedience of lurchers??

[supersam 64]

can not see all dog to be same a you say as all dogs are individuals.

as for calling a dog off a rabbit,hare or fox then n matter if they are just taking off on the puruit of game or near a strike then i wouldnt be able to call any of mine off at any stage..

would i want them to be called off at my command on game?

probably not but then why would i call them off if there chasing game

:blink :

as for sheep,horses,chickens then they dont chae them as there brought up not to so that quetion dont come into it.

being out hunting if i think there paying too much attention to sheep then a yelled NO!!snap them outa of it.

if a rabbit gets up i could shout,do cartwheels and backflips but it would not matter lol.

on the lamp however if the dog is thinking the rabbit is to close to a hedge and feels its not worth it then a "go on" is all the encouragement is all he needs.

[whin 463]

all adogs have to be trained no good having them to disobeident ,but not all dogs have to be trained to feildtrail standards simple as but its good to have awell trained dogs MACKAY YOU MUST A HAD THE BLINKERS ON AS THERE WAS SOME GOOD DOGS THERE IN 92 FEILD TRAIL WHAT STAMP OF DOG YOU GOT

[Richie10 345]

BIG ZOOK is an ANTI, stop playing into his hands.

 

The fact is he can call dogs off quarry says it all.

[Ideation 8,216]

can not see all dog to be same a you say as all dogs are individuals.

as for calling a dog off a rabbit,hare or fox then n matter if they are just taking off on the puruit of game or near a strike then i wouldnt be able to call any of mine off at any stage..

would i want them to be called off at my command on game?

probably not but then why would i call them off if there chasing game

:blink :

as for sheep,horses,chickens then they dont chae them as there brought up not to so that quetion dont come into it.

being out hunting if i think there paying too much attention to sheep then a yelled NO!!snap them outa of it.

if a rabbit gets up i could shout,do cartwheels and backflips but it would not matter lol.

on the lamp however if the dog is thinking the rabbit is to close to a hedge and feels its not worth it then a "go on" is all the encouragement is all he needs.

 

 

Finally a man that speaks sense . . . As Big Zook aint answered i guess he was just taking shit then. . . . .

[mackay 3,471]

all adogs have to be trained no good having them to disobeident ,but not all dogs have to be trained to feildtrail standards simple as but its good to have awell trained dogs MACKAY YOU MUST A HAD THE BLINKERS ON AS THERE WAS SOME GOOD DOGS THERE IN 92 FEILD TRAIL WHAT STAMP OF DOG YOU GOT

 

 

Firstly Whin, I'm not knocking the field trials or the guys who competed. The point I was making was that obedience in itself does not maketh the dog without experience and exposure to game then you simply have an obedient dog. I'm also fully aware why the field trials were there to show lurcher ownership in a better light and detract from some of the unsavoury tales surrounding lurchers. Very commendable.

I just checked it was Blairgowrie and was Sat 21st Nov 92. I actually can recall a few of the dogs, but I'll make only one final observation as this could run forever, concentrating on the hunting aspect, I seen only one dog that could ever be remotely described as a hunter and it was a GSD a first cross I think, downside was it was too heavy to catch a rabbit and If I remember rightly didn't but it did cover ground that other dogs had worked and found game they missed..

Regarding the stamp of dog I've got, I haven't, the ones I did have were lurcher to lurcher with a healthy infusion of collie.

[rocky1 942]

How obedient are you lurchers and what crosses are they? will a 1/4 collie cross be smart enough to sit, lay down, stay, retrieve to hand and come when called? many thanks!

can easily be done. 1/4 collie is a good place to start. not as sensitive as a half cross and a little more forgiving of mistakes. you may have to adapt your training methods from what you have had before, especially if its gundogs etc. as a true working lurcher needs to be able to think far more for itself at times.

 

At the end of the day what you talk about is basic obedience and that should be the starting point for the training of any dog

 

 

spot on regards 1/4 and 1x, 1/4 collie will be a good dog to learn with . Of all my dogs ive had, i would say my 3/8 bull 5/8 grey Tod , as been the easiest to train. He does all basics very easy, walks of lead with sheep, recall is spot on. Ok if he meets people+ dogs he likes to go play with them, well thats ok he is still a pup (7 1/2 months old) even though he is 25in 68lb lol. Colliexs are clever, but so are bullxs if you put the time in

Tod +Bryn

 

 

Impressed but i can see what they are thinking .

whats that then crobin??? if your doubting birds training ability then you miles out :feck:

 

bird they are both looking well mate tods certainly making the size you thought he would gonna be a fooking beast lol :laugh:

i could be wrong but is the same women that accused 2 people of this site of trying 2 walk in the her house and tryed 2 steel her dogs ,if i can remember she mentel ,and should be in a padded room

Edited March 10, 2011 by rocky1

[jimmy100 48]

How obedient are you lurchers and what crosses are they? will a 1/4 collie cross be smart enough to sit, lay down, stay, retrieve to hand and come when called? many thanks!

can easily be done. 1/4 collie is a good place to start. not as sensitive as a half cross and a little more forgiving of mistakes. you may have to adapt your training methods from what you have had before, especially if its gundogs etc. as a true working lurcher needs to be able to think far more for itself at times.

 

At the end of the day what you talk about is basic obedience and that should be the starting point for the training of any dog

 

 

spot on regards 1/4 and 1x, 1/4 collie will be a good dog to learn with . Of all my dogs ive had, i would say my 3/8 bull 5/8 grey Tod , as been the easiest to train. He does all basics very easy, walks of lead with sheep, recall is spot on. Ok if he meets people+ dogs he likes to go play with them, well thats ok he is still a pup (7 1/2 months old) even though he is 25in 68lb lol. Colliexs are clever, but so are bullxs if you put the time in

Tod +Bryn

 

 

Impressed but i can see what they are thinking .

whats that then crobin??? if your doubting birds training ability then you miles out :feck:

 

bird they are both looking well mate tods certainly making the size you thought he would gonna be a fooking beast lol :laugh:

i could be wrong but is the same women that accused 2 people of this site of trying 2 walk in the her house and tryed 2 steel her dogs ,if i can remember she mentel ,and should be in a padded room

yes mate thats the one

[optimus 447]

HERE IS AN OBEDIENCE TRIAL FOR A PLACE IN THE FIELD TRIAL AT BLAIRGOWRIE. RETRIEVING A DUMMY SHOWS TRAINING, IT IS NOT GOING TO SHOW WORKING ABILITY

[optimus 447]

GET THEM OUT WITH YOU FROM DAY ONE,WHATEVER THE BREEDING. BUILD A RELATIONSHIP, NOTHING IS AS IMPORTANT THAN THE FACT THAT YOU & YOUR DOG GET ON

[johnny boy68 11,726]

I think any breed of dog can and should be taught basic commands. It's just handy in both hunting and non-hunting situations. Mine does however cock a deaf one if there is game very near and he has wind, or is on the chase.

I thought he was deaf :laugh:

[johnny boy68 11,726]

GET THEM OUT WITH YOU FROM DAY ONE,WHATEVER THE BREEDING. BUILD A RELATIONSHIP, NOTHING IS AS IMPORTANT THAN THE FACT THAT YOU & YOUR DOG GET ON

Hey optimus........what x is that dog?Maybe the way its being held but looks a lot like a red-bone coonhound

[optimus 447]

GET THEM OUT WITH YOU FROM DAY ONE,WHATEVER THE BREEDING. BUILD A RELATIONSHIP, NOTHING IS AS IMPORTANT THAN THE FACT THAT YOU & YOUR DOG GET ON

Hey optimus........what x is that dog?Maybe the way its being held but looks a lot like a red-bone coonhound

NOTHING SO FANCY IM AFRAID, SALUKI CROSS & MY POINT BY THE PHOTO IS, WHATEVER CROSS IT MAY BE???. SALUKI/ COLLIE/ DEERHOUND ETC IT CAN ONLY HELP ANY FUTURE WORKING RELATIONSHIP WHEN YOUR DOG AINT A TOOL ,ITS YOUR PAL

[fieldsman 51]

BIG ZOOK is an ANTI, stop playing into his hands.

 

The fact is he can call dogs off quarry says it all.

I can call mine off am I an anti as well .You sound like a few so called dog men I know making assumptions based on limited intellect .I don,t know who BIG ZOOK is but if their biggest problem is having a well behaved dog good luck to them.I was told by many that my dogs were,nt proper working dogs because I could recall them mid course, apparently they are lacking heart, drive, and what it takes, whatever that is .As the season ends it has become obvious that my well behaved heartless gutless dogs have accounted for more than twice the head of quarry that that these proper dogs have.I must admit not all my dogs are so good but I,ll keep working on the problems until they are fewer and life out and about with them becomes far less stressful there,s nothing like the company of friends hunting with well behaved dogs ,As there is nothing worse than hunting with a prat with a dog that,s out of control.I no longer hunt with people I don,t know well as dogs that are unruly are no fun to be out with.A few I have run with in the past have used the same bull it,s the breed it shows they are keen if it,s like that it must be a good un.Some of these men have had dogs for 30 or 40 years but seem to know nothing about dogs I wont embarrass them by naming them but many are well known in the dog world and one in particular you dont teach a dog by hanging it by the lead and kick the shit out of it you know who you are. Rant over

Edited March 10, 2011 by fieldsman

[johnny boy68 11,726]

GET THEM OUT WITH YOU FROM DAY ONE,WHATEVER THE BREEDING. BUILD A RELATIONSHIP, NOTHING IS AS IMPORTANT THAN THE FACT THAT YOU & YOUR DOG GET ON

Hey optimus........what x is that dog?Maybe the way its being held but looks a lot like a red-bone coonhound

NOTHING SO FANCY IM AFRAID, SALUKI CROSS & MY POINT BY THE PHOTO IS, WHATEVER CROSS IT MAY BE???. SALUKI/ COLLIE/ DEERHOUND ETC IT CAN ONLY HELP ANY FUTURE WORKING RELATIONSHIP WHEN YOUR DOG AINT A TOOL ,ITS YOUR PAL

Thanks mate I kind of guessed it wasn't a coon hound just looked very similar

And you're 100% correct on the bonding issue I try to have my dogs out and about with me whenever possible.

[Mikebee 7]

never been one for needing to much from my dogs to be honest other than plenty of socialising,recall which soon becomes second nature when lamps switched off so no need for a verbal command although yes at times if getting them out in the day and retrieve 100% other than that dont need anything else from a lamping dog

 

one word i do commonly use with them is "GET"

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and above all,just get the f**k

 

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