Obedience of lurchers??

[Big Jim101 29]

How obedient are you lurchers and what crosses are they? will a 1/4 collie cross be smart enough to sit, lay down, stay, retrieve to hand and come when called? many thanks!

[tb25 4,627]

i have a first x bull grey and at 6 month a very happy with her sits stays every thing i could ask for a pup....very happy with her

[TOMO 26,425]

How obedient are you lurchers and what crosses are they? will a 1/4 collie cross be smart enough to sit, lay down, stay, retrieve to hand and come when called? many thanks!

 

yep course it will,,,, got a old coursing bred bitch saluki cross in the kennel wil do all that, in fact vertualy any breed of dog can be tought the things you sugest,,,,, just depends on the ability of the trainer

[jacksbignose 8]

How obedient are you lurchers and what crosses are they? will a 1/4 collie cross be smart enough to sit, lay down, stay, retrieve to hand and come when called? many thanks!

 

Put the work in and that's the least I'd expect a 1/4 Collie cross to do! No disrespect intended to those with Saluki crosses (lets be honest not generally accepted as being on a par with Collie x when it comes to brains ) but I've judged Lurcher obedience and the things you've asked about can be done by Saluki crosses... though I've never trialled retrieving live to hand!

[Hannah4181 260]

How obedient are you lurchers and what crosses are they? will a 1/4 collie cross be smart enough to sit, lay down, stay, retrieve to hand and come when called? many thanks!

 

yep course it will,,,, got a old coursing bred bitch saluki cross in the kennel wil do all that, in fact vertualy any breed of dog can be tought the things you sugest,,,,, just depends on the ability of the trainer

 

 

Spot on.

[rocky1 942]

all my dogs are obedience ,but tend not give them lots of commands ,only 3 i use sit which not that often ,whistle 2 come back , get on ,but when out working they don,t need no commands they just know 2 come straight back after run with or without catch no messing,if they have a long long slip i,ll just flick the lamp on and off 2 the floor and they know which direction 2 come

[watchman 256]

never been one for needing to much from my dogs to be honest other than plenty of socialising,recall which soon becomes second nature when lamps switched off so no need for a verbal command although yes at times if getting them out in the day and retrieve 100% other than that dont need anything else from a lamping dog

 

one word i do commonly use with them is "GET"

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off

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and above all,just get the f**k

[BIG ZOOK 5]

I prefer half collie/greyhound pups at 8 weeks old But on some occasions a quarter collie /greyhound is required and expect them to obey all the, basic commands and act upon a series of arm/whistle signals All my dogs,respond to command when told to abandon a chase and that is a great quality.We also have a greyhound :icon_eek:that was rescued as a young pup ,not ideal by any means but suitable 4 some on here.

[rocky1 942]

I prefer half collie/greyhound pups at 8 weeks old But on some occasions a quarter collie /greyhound is required and expect them to obey all the, basic commands and act upon a series of arm/whistle signals All my dogs,respond to command when told to abandon a chase and that is a great quality.We also have a greyhound :icon_eek:that was rescued as a young pup ,not ideal by any means but suitable 4 some on here.

not saying this about all collies just some,and its when i hear somthing like the above calling the dog of a chase i think thats when 2 much brains can be a fault in a lurcher ,anyway used 2 go out with lad that ran collie/greys,the first few slips the dog would run brill and then half hearted only running halfway down the beam if he thought the rabbit was going trough the hedge he,d pull up 50yds before ,this used realy do the guys head as this dog could be a handy dog and do the numbers ,i know all collies are not like this,just when i read the above about calling of a chase ,their no were i could do that with my deerhoundx ,just my opion as we all know opion mean nothing on here

Edited March 9, 2011 by rocky1

[Ideation 8,216]

I think any breed of dog can and should be taught basic commands. It's just handy in both hunting and non-hunting situations. Mine does however cock a deaf one if there is game very near and he has wind, or is on the chase.

[BIG ZOOK 5]

I prefer half collie/greyhound pups at 8 weeks old But on some occasions a quarter collie /greyhound is required and expect them to obey all the, basic commands and act upon a series of arm/whistle signals All my dogs,respond to command when told to abandon a chase and that is a great quality.We also have a greyhound :icon_eek:that was rescued as a young pup ,not ideal by any means but suitable 4 some on here.

not saying this about all collies just some,and its when i hear somthing like the above calling the dog of a chase i think thats when 2 much brains can be a fault in a lurcher ,anyway used 2 go out with lad that ran collie/greys,the first few slips the dog would run brill and then half hearted only running halfway down the beam if he thought the rabbit was going trough the hedge he,d pull up 50yds before ,this used realy do the guys head as this dog could be a handy dog and do the numbers ,i know all collies are not like this,just when i read the above about calling of a chase ,their no were i could do that with my deerhoundx ,just my opion as we all know opion mean nothing on here

Never had any issues,with my dogs,pulling out of a chase "without command"in day or night :notworthy:However if i have been out and the dog got up,against an unsuitable quarry then i need to call off the chase,be it a fox/deer/farm cat or busy main road.My dogs ignore my free running chickens down the garden but if i was not there it would be carnage.

[Ideation 8,216]

I prefer half collie/greyhound pups at 8 weeks old But on some occasions a quarter collie /greyhound is required and expect them to obey all the, basic commands and act upon a series of arm/whistle signals All my dogs,respond to command when told to abandon a chase and that is a great quality.We also have a greyhound :icon_eek:that was rescued as a young pup ,not ideal by any means but suitable 4 some on here.

not saying this about all collies just some,and its when i hear somthing like the above calling the dog of a chase i think thats when 2 much brains can be a fault in a lurcher ,anyway used 2 go out with lad that ran collie/greys,the first few slips the dog would run brill and then half hearted only running halfway down the beam if he thought the rabbit was going trough the hedge he,d pull up 50yds before ,this used realy do the guys head as this dog could be a handy dog and do the numbers ,i know all collies are not like this,just when i read the above about calling of a chase ,their no were i could do that with my deerhoundx ,just my opion as we all know opion mean nothing on here

Never had any issues,with my dogs,pulling out of a chase "without command"in day or night :notworthy:However if i have been out and the dog got up,against an unsuitable quarry then i need to call off the chase,be it a fox/deer/farm cat or busy main road.My dogs ignore my free running chickens down the garden but if i was not there it would be carnage.

 

Well i salute you, cos if i placed my dog in a field and a rabbit 20 yards away running across the open space, and i gave my dog the very firm command to stay, sit, lie, whatever and then let go of his collar, he may well hesitate for a second, pause, but probably not. He'll not be thinking of anything but that bunny. And he's off. . . . everytime.

[collie/grey 238]

Every dog should be taught the basics you have mentioned, start when young, brains are like sponges when young, they soak everything up. Any dog regardless of breed can be taught, just depends on how much effort you are willing to put in. I have a collie x and bull x's and the dogs with more bull in are the most obediant, the collie x is quite independent when she wants to be. I could stop my dogs chasing if i spot what they want to chase first but once they are off theres no stopping them!

[hickymick 37]

got to agree with rocky some collies do lack the fire,,but any lurcher can be learned these things,,but not many can be called off game in full flight,i for one find that hard to swallow unless its not trying to catch it,or (using its brain)

[trenchfoot 4,243]

How obedient are you lurchers and what crosses are they? will a 1/4 collie cross be smart enough to sit, lay down, stay, retrieve to hand and come when called? many thanks!

can easily be done. 1/4 collie is a good place to start. not as sensitive as a half cross and a little more forgiving of mistakes. you may have to adapt your training methods from what you have had before, especially if its gundogs etc. as a true working lurcher needs to be able to think far more for itself at times.

 

At the end of the day what you talk about is basic obedience and that should be the starting point for the training of any dog