TB Testing??

[heymmayo 0]

Hi Guys,

Would anyone know, is there a "Powder" or testing kit out there that can test the lungs of a deer immediatly for TB?

Or do any of you send away a sample?

If so where to?

Thanks in advance for any info

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

Not 100% sure mate but i think tb is a notifiable disease in deer therefore any suspected should be examined by a vet .Im no expert but generally an animal that has the disease is very dull of cat and visably thin with no shine to the eyes .Stand out a mile away but i suppose the early stages is what you refer to .Martin will no doubt add to this as hes pretty clued up on what to look for.

[DERBOY 18]

Hi Guys,

Would anyone know, is there a "Powder" or testing kit out there that can test the lungs of a deer immediatly for TB?

Or do any of you send away a sample?

If so where to?

Thanks in advance for any info

i dont think their is any test out their you can have to use in the field , they say its very hard even for the vets to tell the difference between the bovine tb and the avian tb wich is not so dangerous . im sure it says that it needs laboratory tests to prove witch is witch ,

cliical signs can belong term retention , of winter coat .

internal clinical signs are usually in the lymph system and lymph glands in the throat, lungs ,or mesenteric region that has puss, white chalky nodules or white nodules in the lungs, all should be treated as suspicious .

recmmendation is to leave the carcase where it is and get professional help .

[chickenman 4]

I have never heard of such a test and if there were would you really want to use it? If you did you would be making more of a contamination problem as if you suspected TB you should keep the spread of contamination to a minimum. Also what good or use would the test be? If you suspect then you call DEFRA or health agency.I wonder if a powder did exist would it spread contamination...as a powder would be blown by the wind?

 

Regarding samples , no you do not send away a sample. A sample must be taken by a specialist from one of the agencies sent to investigate and the sample held in the correct conditions.A sample sent by someone would be a potential disaster for if it broke in transit it could be spread, it would also be a BIO Hazard.

 

Even so its good to see your asking such questions.

 

The same would apply to any other notifiable disease such as blue tongue, foot and mouth or anthrax

Edited March 8, 2011 by chickenman

[martin 332]

As has been already said,TB(either bovine or avian)are both 'Notifiable diseases',and as such should be left where they drop or at least where they are gralloched,and a DEFRA VET should be contacted and they will come out to you.You should definitely never move the carcase though as it would cause contamination,so let the experts do their thing.Things to look out for are pussy lymph nodes in the lungs/throat and/or mesenteric region,and white nodules(maybe chalky)in the lungs.....

 

Here is a decent site with some pics..........

http://www.michigan.gov/emergingdiseases/0,1607,7-186-25804-76392--,00.html

As for a powder that will give you a difinitive answer....never heard of it. Out of interest what part of the country are you in mate?

 

Martin

[DERBOY 18]

As has been already said,TB(either bovine or avian)are both 'Notifiable diseases',and as such should be left where they drop or at least where they are gralloched,and a DEFRA VET should be contacted and they will come out to you.You should definitely never move the carcase though as it would cause contamination,so let the experts do their thing.Things to look out for are pussy lymph nodes in the lungs/throat and/or mesenteric region,and white nodules(maybe chalky)in the lungs.....

 

Here is a decent site with some pics..........

http://www.michigan.gov/emergingdiseases/0,1607,7-186-25804-76392--,00.html

As for a powder that will give you a difinitive answer....never heard of it. Out of interest what part of the country are you in mate?

 

Martin

thanks for the link , allways good to see these things

[heymmayo 0]

As has been already said,TB(either bovine or avian)are both 'Notifiable diseases',and as such should be left where they drop or at least where they are gralloched,and a DEFRA VET should be contacted and they will come out to you.You should definitely never move the carcase though as it would cause contamination,so let the experts do their thing.Things to look out for are pussy lymph nodes in the lungs/throat and/or mesenteric region,and white nodules(maybe chalky)in the lungs.....

 

Here is a decent site with some pics..........

http://www.michigan.gov/emergingdiseases/0,1607,7-186-25804-76392--,00.html

As for a powder that will give you a difinitive answer....never heard of it. Out of interest what part of the country are you in mate?

 

Martin

THANKS a million guys. especially the pic and links.

I am in Ireland, in Mayo.

The main reason I was asking about the TB is that 8 to 10 years ago about 15 reds were "dumped" (alive) not too far away. Since they arrived, they have thrived.

The local authorities dont want to know where they came from or even investigate, I spoke with the local ranger and he doesnt really care that these reds are now heavily in bred etc etc.

 

We all try and manage these reds. But you get the hunters coming in from around the country and even from abroad to just trophy hunt.

I'm happy to get a few for the freezer. But now my two wee kids have come along I just got to wondering about the TB.

I always check out the lungs, but a local guy here asked did I ever use a Powder test, didn't have a clue what he was on about.

 

Thanks again for the great links

[Blue one 89]

Their is a lot of deer in Ireland that have Tb. I use to cull for the dept of agriculture back in the 90's.

I use to cull badgers under licence and also deer. 30% of badgers had it and about 20% of deer aswell, in areas where their was high TB cases with cattle.!

Great pictures their Martin, that is exactly what it looks like, but, it is hard to detect, in the early stages.!

[wboulter 3]

i shot a fallow pricket a few years ago which ad TB i called defra vets they came out took a few samples they would not comfirm it had TB there and then but what they did say that i could still eat it if i wanted to i said there`s no way you could put that in the food chain i wouldent even fed it to the dogs it was hanging so i buried it out the way i had to chase them for weeks before they confirmed it was TB