WHITEYrs4 29 Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Lol I can see this becoming quite a debate , any one now of any litters other than hancocks ? GET YOUR ASS OVER TO EBBW-VALE People dont advertise the best dogs theres plenty of boys with collie xs over there. Quote Link to post
chilly 59 Posted March 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Being new to the sport I have no contacts , was hoping some one could put me onto some one with a planned litter or one on the way Quote Link to post
troter58 1,711 Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 IF you are after a good collie cross dont go to hancock never seen a dog any good from him just in it for the money you live in a good area and theres some good working stock in south wales sure some one will be in touch with you just make sure you see the parents and that they are workers atb in your search troter Quote Link to post
Jack Dark 2 Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 all his dogs are the same price mate £200 for a crock a shite Yawn here we go again, it seems no matter how many folk have good working dogs from Hancock the same old chant goes on and on and on. Yes Hancock has also produced some less than satisfactory dog but then has 'anyone' that has ever breed dogs. All I will say is that if you go to Hancock you will know what the parents are something that is all to often if you don't know the breeder not true. Only last weekend bumped into a bloke with a dog that he was told when he got it at eight weeks was a collie x greyhound X collie x greyhound, all I can say is that if true then it must of been a very strange collie that went into the mix. looked more like a Doberman Pinsche crossed with a springer spaniel. Quote Link to post
luckysod 30 Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 Hi , I'm looking to get my first lurcher soon , I've convinced the wife but need to do a little work to some kennel space out the garden before I get a pup so there is some where for the new dog and my other one while I'm out , I'll be honest the dog is not going to see huge amounts of work with me , it's mainly going to be ferreting and day time mooching around, I don't do a lot at the mo but by the time the dog gets to it's first proper working season my son will be in school so will have much more time on my hands to get out and enjoy some work. I don't do any lamp work but will be starting when the dog is ready, as night time will be the ideal time to get out when the family and kids are tucked up in bed. I now some reading this may think that I should not get a lurcher if I can't give it masses of work , but this dog will be living in with the family and my other dog, and will be loved and be as much a pet as my other dog is when not out working . I'm thinking from what in have read that a 1/4 collie 3/4 gray will suet me and my needs , being from what I have read a good choice for a first lurcher , and a good rabbit dog that has the possibility to turn it's hand to other things should my interest change So I am looking for a 1/4 collie x 3/4 gray pup bitch , if any one nows of any litters worth looking at that are on the way or planned please let me now Any info or advice or opinions given will be much appreciated Thanks Hi, I thought I would add my penny's worth Mate, after being involved with lurchers in my younger years with mainly Saluki types, coursing etc I left the sport alone for awhile and pursued other things but it never left me, time is right in my life now to get involved with lurchers again and what I wanted was a 3/4 bred collie/grey I looked and looked again but could just not find what I wanted there was always something wrong etc etc, so I thought "Hancock" wht not give it a try, I have obviously known of David for a long time, but never met him, I have seen peoples opinions of him over the years, but I thought I would form my own, so off I went to meet him. When you get there he makes you feel welcome and gives you a good tour of the property shows you all the litters that are available and more importantly gives you there breeding history going back many generations, so I picked my puppy 3/4 grey 1/4 collie (beardie/border mix)bitch exactly what I wanted, that was 6 mths ago she is now 8 mths and going great loves working with the ferrets and I have just started her lamping but only gently in short I am chuffed to bits with her, if your still looking for a pup go and see him and form your own opinion, Yes it is large scale and he may not work his dogs but what you are given is a blank canvass and its what you put into it. Quote Link to post
3 Turns 326 Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 VERY FAIR COMMENT LUCKY SOD. PUTTING THE TIME IN ALWAYS REAPS REWARDS. Quote Link to post
bird 9,982 Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 Lol I can see this becoming quite a debate , any one now of any litters other than hancocks ? read your post, and to be honest mate as the dog (wont) see a alot of work + and live in your house. I would go more for a whippet+grey type dog, be easier to live with+smaller than a colliexgrey. Ive had quite few lurchers over the years, and colliexs do need alot of work really, so i do think a whippetxgrey type would be better for you. as yout saw one of my dogs on your post(3/8 collie 5/8 grey) they are big dogs, and a 1/4 collie 3/4 grey will be as big. My dog now 1x colliexgrey Bryn is 25in 58lb, smaller than the above xs but still a big dog. ( none hancocks) all local bred dogs Bryn Quote Link to post
chilly 59 Posted March 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 To be honest the size doesn't worry me 2 much already have a large air dale bitch she about 26tts , but where we walk most days the are plenty of rabbits and the dog would be able to mouch and hunt up quite a lot , just prob only be once maybe twice a week full day ferreting , but hoping to start on the lamp when the pup is big enough , prob get out a lot more then as my family are all in bed early and I'm always out with the dog in the night now Do you think that would be enough for a collie x ?, really do like the collie x's , it's the intelligence and obedience level that can be achieved that I really like 2 Quote Link to post
Guest born to run1083 Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 1st x collie greys are very hard to get hold of from working stock, took me 18 months to find my pup which had working parents, but being honest wished I had went with the 1/4 collie grey as this ones like einstine lol really hard to stay a step a head of her let alone a few steps a head. This is my first collie x and she's ain't half put me through my paces. As a few others have said Hancock is a puppy farmer but good dogs do come out of his kennel from time to time but you would expect so from the 1000's he's probably bred by now. All I can advise is take people adverts as a pinch of salt nearly every Lurcher breeder pretends and claims his pups are working stock and says there parents are world beaters but % of the time this is balls. Your doing the right thing by researching about future planned litters as this way you should be given the option to see sire and dam work and if not ask to see them work yourself any genuine dog man will have no problem with this. And at the end of the day if sire and dam are doing what you want in the field and what you expect your future pup to be doing it's a very good good chance your get a good pup out of them that will suit you. Hope this helps Quote Link to post
DogMagic 461 Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 but ant he a old man now he may not work his dog now but back in the day he was out 5 day's a week to whot i have nown as when i got in to lurcher's i looked in to the coliey x i looket at the plummer lurcher and hancock DOG???? Did you say DOG????!!! When i phoned the c**t he told me he never has less than 13 litters ready to go at any time! Now consider a bitch only comes into season once a year, how many bitches has he got? A f*****g lot and all they do is churn out puppies and make him rich! They dont work they dont have time and he dont have any interest in working them. HE IS A PUPPY PEDDLER ON AN EPIC SCALE, i wouldnt piss on him if he was on fire! DO NOT SUPPORT HIM!! By all means get a collie x greyhound, just not from him. Quote Link to post
STUNTMAN 552 Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 Lol I can see this becoming quite a debate , any one now of any litters other than hancocks ? read your post, and to be honest mate as the dog (wont) see a alot of work + and live in your house. I would go more for a whippet+grey type dog, be easier to live with+smaller than a colliexgrey. Ive had quite few lurchers over the years, and colliexs do need alot of work really, so i do think a whippetxgrey type would be better for you. as yout saw one of my dogs on your post(3/8 collie 5/8 grey) they are big dogs, and a 1/4 collie 3/4 grey will be as big. My dog now 1x colliexgrey Bryn is 25in 58lb, smaller than the above xs but still a big dog. ( none hancocks) all local bred dogs Bryn Bird again nice animal! Chilly sound advice, I've found with more sight hound blood they tend to relax in the down time, big difference in temperment between a 1/2 X to a 3/4 in general terms. I had a few 1/2 crosses that were like pure collies , up your ass 24/7 looking for a job.If I had kenneled those dogs allot I dont think we could have got along to well Quote Link to post
thewindcallsmyname. 3 Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 lucky then, hancocks works none of his shite he just a peddler pure and simple i have a mate with 1 and id say it would run the socks off any think you got and she coming up 10 . every 1 on here always talking shit it the owner not the puppie you buy it how you bring the dog on pure and simple just like a the bull x threads you need them to take red coats and so on what a load of shit Quote Link to post
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