wag 13 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 hi all , i am after some advice on boreholes for water , me and a friend have just got planning permission to dig a pond... the only problem is we have no where to draw the water from to fill the pond , it will fill up naturally from rain fall but through the summer it will fall below the water mark in the ground ,now we want to put fish the pond but this is a NO, NO if we cannot keep the water level up through the summer ... now there are other ponds within a mile range of where we will be digging ours...... they draw water from a local river... but it is to far for us to pump water from and we would not get a water extraction licence ... now the land is silty but does hold water .... so now comes the question..... boreholes for water ,would it be possible to draw a massive amount of water from one of these to keep a 2 acre pond topped up through the summer and also fill it when dug , would we need a licence to do this ? would we be able to have a borehole with the land being grade a silt land ...? what would the cost be .... any advice or help would be most appreciated ... just to ad we have looked into having it clay lined but it would be to expensive for us ..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,889 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 hi all , i am after some advice on boreholes for water , me and a friend have just got planning permission to dig a pond... the only problem is we have no where to draw the water from to fill the pond , it will fill up naturally from rain fall but through the summer it will fall below the water mark in the ground ,now we want to put fish the pond but this is a NO, NO if we cannot keep the water level up through the summer ... now there are other ponds within a mile range of where we will be digging ours...... they draw water from a local river... but it is to far for us to pump water from and we would not get a water extraction licence ... now the land is silty but does hold water .... so now comes the question..... boreholes for water ,would it be possible to draw a massive amount of water from one of these to keep a 2 acre pond topped up through the summer and also fill it when dug , would we need a licence to do this ? would we be able to have a borehole with the land being grade a silt land ...? what would the cost be .... any advice or help would be most appreciated ... just to ad we have looked into having it clay lined but it would be to expensive for us ..... your going to want some preety serious machinary to dig a 2 acre pond ! but never the less i would contact a water diviner first see if there is any artesian water in the land is it rock .. or gravell .. i have worked on a couple of prodgects and we did line them with blue clay but yes it was expensive ,,,,good luck! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy100 48 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 hi all , i am after some advice on boreholes for water , me and a friend have just got planning permission to dig a pond... the only problem is we have no where to draw the water from to fill the pond , it will fill up naturally from rain fall but through the summer it will fall below the water mark in the ground ,now we want to put fish the pond but this is a NO, NO if we cannot keep the water level up through the summer ... now there are other ponds within a mile range of where we will be digging ours...... they draw water from a local river... but it is to far for us to pump water from and we would not get a water extraction licence ... now the land is silty but does hold water .... so now comes the question..... boreholes for water ,would it be possible to draw a massive amount of water from one of these to keep a 2 acre pond topped up through the summer and also fill it when dug , would we need a licence to do this ? would we be able to have a borehole with the land being grade a silt land ...? what would the cost be .... any advice or help would be most appreciated ... just to ad we have looked into having it clay lined but it would be to expensive for us ..... your going to want some preety serious machinary to dig a 2 acre pond ! but never the less i would contact a water diviner first see if there is any artesian water in the land is it rock .. or gravell .. i have worked on a couple of prodgects and we did line them with blue clay but yes it was expensive ,,,,good luck! fecking to right!!! a 360 digger and driver will be at least £200 a day, disposing of the earth dug out will probably be at least 10 per tonne, the fish to fill it will cost thousands so it will be a very expensive job and years before you see any profit if at all!!! not my money but surly it would be cheaper and easier to just buy an established pond and stock that but if you do dig your own good luck and let us know how you get on would be an interesting project to see :thumbs: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
darklord 25 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 A 2 ACRE POND ARE YOU SURE ITS A POND AND NOT A LAKE, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robbo 873 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 you can get someone to drill you a borehole that you will be able to pump enough water from. they have one at lindholme fisheries. my mate works for the drilling firm that did it, but its not a cheap thing to have done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ArchieHood 3,692 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 A 2 ACRE POND ARE YOU SURE ITS A POND AND NOT A LAKE, If its man made its a pond irrespective of size,a lake is a natural feature. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 A 2 ACRE POND ARE YOU SURE ITS A POND AND NOT A LAKE, If its man made its a pond irrespective of size,a lake is a natural feature. ................... ....i stole this....Well, there is no difference in size, as much as there is a difference in biota. A pond is characterized as a body of water, which has a photic zone through its entire length/width. In other words, plants could potentially grow all across its surface or below the surface. A lake however is characterized by having an aphotic zone, where the sun cannot penetrate, therefore plants cannot grow all over its surface or below it. This aphotic zone is usually determined by depth. Ponds are typically shallow to allow light to pass down deep enough for plants to survive. There is no standard size for lakes, ponds, bogs, etc. They are usually determined by their composition, both biotic and abiotic. So everyone that said that a lake is bigger is technically wrong, since there are some ponds that can exceed the size of small lakes, but due to the absolute photic zone, it is technically a pond. So, there you have it, I hope that helps! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wag 13 Posted March 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 hi all , i am after some advice on boreholes for water , me and a friend have just got planning permission to dig a pond... the only problem is we have no where to draw the water from to fill the pond , it will fill up naturally from rain fall but through the summer it will fall below the water mark in the ground ,now we want to put fish the pond but this is a NO, NO if we cannot keep the water level up through the summer ... now there are other ponds within a mile range of where we will be digging ours...... they draw water from a local river... but it is to far for us to pump water from and we would not get a water extraction licence ... now the land is silty but does hold water .... so now comes the question..... boreholes for water ,would it be possible to draw a massive amount of water from one of these to keep a 2 acre pond topped up through the summer and also fill it when dug , would we need a licence to do this ? would we be able to have a borehole with the land being grade a silt land ...? what would the cost be .... any advice or help would be most appreciated ... just to ad we have looked into having it clay lined but it would be to expensive for us ..... your going to want some preety serious machinary to dig a 2 acre pond ! but never the less i would contact a water diviner first see if there is any artesian water in the land is it rock .. or gravell .. i have worked on a couple of prodgects and we did line them with blue clay but yes it was expensive ,,,,good luck! fecking to right!!! a 360 digger and driver will be at least £200 a day, disposing of the earth dug out will probably be at least 10 per tonne, the fish to fill it will cost thousands so it will be a very expensive job and years before you see any profit if at all!!! not my money but surly it would be cheaper and easier to just buy an established pond and stock that but if you do dig your own good luck and let us know how you get on would be an interesting project to see :thumbs: there will be no earth moved from the site of where the pond is to be made....... its in a 5 acre grass field with plenty of holes that need filling... also there will be raised embankments , i do not wish to go into to much detail...... but its not going to be made for a business or profit its going to be for friends and family , also for a few disabled people ... we have got two grant's approved .. its .for fishing and shooting with alot of conservation going into it aswell ......will post some photo,s of when it gets started ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ossie n Arch 1,682 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 Can't help you with your question, but best of luck with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy100 48 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 hi all , i am after some advice on boreholes for water , me and a friend have just got planning permission to dig a pond... the only problem is we have no where to draw the water from to fill the pond , it will fill up naturally from rain fall but through the summer it will fall below the water mark in the ground ,now we want to put fish the pond but this is a NO, NO if we cannot keep the water level up through the summer ... now there are other ponds within a mile range of where we will be digging ours...... they draw water from a local river... but it is to far for us to pump water from and we would not get a water extraction licence ... now the land is silty but does hold water .... so now comes the question..... boreholes for water ,would it be possible to draw a massive amount of water from one of these to keep a 2 acre pond topped up through the summer and also fill it when dug , would we need a licence to do this ? would we be able to have a borehole with the land being grade a silt land ...? what would the cost be .... any advice or help would be most appreciated ... just to ad we have looked into having it clay lined but it would be to expensive for us ..... your going to want some preety serious machinary to dig a 2 acre pond ! but never the less i would contact a water diviner first see if there is any artesian water in the land is it rock .. or gravell .. i have worked on a couple of prodgects and we did line them with blue clay but yes it was expensive ,,,,good luck! fecking to right!!! a 360 digger and driver will be at least £200 a day, disposing of the earth dug out will probably be at least 10 per tonne, the fish to fill it will cost thousands so it will be a very expensive job and years before you see any profit if at all!!! not my money but surly it would be cheaper and easier to just buy an established pond and stock that but if you do dig your own good luck and let us know how you get on would be an interesting project to see :thumbs: there will be no earth moved from the site of where the pond is to be made....... its in a 5 acre grass field with plenty of holes that need filling... also there will be raised embankments , i do not wish to go into to much detail...... but its not going to be made for a business or profit its going to be for friends and family , also for a few disabled people ... we have got two grant's approved .. its .for fishing and shooting with alot of conservation going into it aswell ......will post some photo,s of when it gets started ... that will save a few quid then good luck with it mate wish i had a project like that to look forward to Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ArchieHood 3,692 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 A 2 ACRE POND ARE YOU SURE ITS A POND AND NOT A LAKE, If its man made its a pond irrespective of size,a lake is a natural feature. ................... ....i stole this....Well, there is no difference in size, as much as there is a difference in biota. A pond is characterized as a body of water, which has a photic zone through its entire length/width. In other words, plants could potentially grow all across its surface or below the surface. A lake however is characterized by having an aphotic zone, where the sun cannot penetrate, therefore plants cannot grow all over its surface or below it. This aphotic zone is usually determined by depth. Ponds are typically shallow to allow light to pass down deep enough for plants to survive. There is no standard size for lakes, ponds, bogs, etc. They are usually determined by their composition, both biotic and abiotic. So everyone that said that a lake is bigger is technically wrong, since there are some ponds that can exceed the size of small lakes, but due to the absolute photic zone, it is technically a pond. So, there you have it, I hope that helps! Smart arse Quote Link to post Share on other sites
craigyboy 1,274 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 id talk to a specialist mate,theres a company about a mile from me that if i recall did something similar for a bloke i knew who was digging a pond Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy100 48 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 id talk to a specialist mate,theres a company about a mile from me that if i recall did something similar for a bloke i knew who was digging a pond youll be needing to see a specialist tomorrow mate :whistling: but lets not ruin the thread ill start one off :laugh: :thumbs: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
craigyboy 1,274 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 id talk to a specialist mate,theres a company about a mile from me that if i recall did something similar for a bloke i knew who was digging a pond youll be needing to see a specialist tomorrow mate :whistling: but lets not ruin the thread ill start one off :laugh: :thumbs: ya daft scouse kunt,there'l be plenty water were you are after the game Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SEAN3513 7 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 hello wag you'll need to contact the Environment ageny, you may need an abstrction licence, depending on the quantity you are removing. have a look here mate loads of info groundwater good luck with it..........sounds like a great project atb sean Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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