who has dogs what will do numbers

[suffolkpoacher 219]

who has a dog or dogs which could have done or could do a decent amount of hares in the lamp pre ban running big open winter wheat feilds ,

and as for my lab or springer would keep them to yourself

Depending on the time of the year A decent collie or alsation could catch a decent amount of hares,on the lamp.Lamped hares = a big NO SHOW in my books.But if you enjoy the advantage you have,against a lamped hare then ,enjoy.

 

time of year??read the post winter wheat i said ,december,jan,feb and you can bring your collie or alsation down any time this week and we will see ,i agree not as hard as daylight by no means but the dont hang around in the lamp on big feilds no fences or walls and long grass here ,

[suffolkpoacher 219]

The woman isa prick check her old posts you dick

Look pal unless you can answer the questions posted and reply with an answer that can be backed up,with proof/reasoning ,then piss off and go play with the cars on the motorway, cos your`e not helping.

 

fair play

[Giro 2,648]

Any old lurcher may catch hares with ease on the lamp I have seen dogs struggle.

 

And how many would do double figures???

 

My dogs a lamping dog and taken plenty hares pre ban some very easy off the seat but a fair few put a good account in from them selfs and the dog missed plenty..

 

As for people getting holier than now telling me it un sporting get real...

 

Coursing men run summer hares, run pups when the stubbles just been cut.

 

They dont just wait for those "Hard winter hares" they are out as much as anyone and they would have to be to get the dog in any shape to contend with a "Jan hare" let alone 3 out of 3..

 

Lamping hares is effective and its easier on the lamp but you dont catch them all..

 

 

I enjoyed lamping hares and rabbits my dogs where fit and I was happy..

 

And I would double my dogs up on hares too.. Not because they could not do it single handed cause I just wanted to catch and catch quickly..

 

I did not just go out solely for hares I mainly ran rabbits I took High 40's and 8 to ten hares on a average night..

 

They made better money at the game dealers..

 

But thats all in the past now just rabbits from now on...

Edited March 4, 2011 by Giro

[GUN SHIP 2]

who has a dog or dogs which could have done or could do a decent amount of hares in the lamp pre ban running big open winter wheat feilds ,

and as for my lab or springer would keep them to yourself

Depending on the time of the year A decent collie or alsation could catch a decent amount of hares,on the lamp.Lamped hares = a big NO SHOW in my books.But if you enjoy the advantage you have,against a lamped hare then ,enjoy.

 

time of year??read the post winter wheat i said ,december,jan,feb and you can bring your collie or alsation down any time this week and we will see ,i agree not as hard as daylight by no means but the dont hang around in the lamp on big feilds no fences or walls and long grass here ,

Well said .However i have found that winter or summer hares, that have been lamped on a regular basis,offer no challenge to a good running dog therefore i refuse to run my dog on lamped hares .

[fensaluki 35]

who has a dog or dogs which could have done or could do a decent amount of hares in the lamp pre ban running big open winter wheat feilds ,

and as for my lab or springer would keep them to yourself

Depending on the time of the year A decent collie or alsation could catch a decent amount of hares,on the lamp.Lamped hares = a big NO SHOW in my books.But if you enjoy the advantage you have,against a lamped hare then ,enjoy.

 

time of year??read the post winter wheat i said ,december,jan,feb and you can bring your collie or alsation down any time this week and we will see ,i agree not as hard as daylight by no means but the dont hang around in the lamp on big feilds no fences or walls and long grass here ,

Well said .However i have found that winter or summer hares, that have been lamped on a regular basis,offer no challenge to a good running dog therefore i refuse to run my dog on lamped hares .

 

As I have said.I dont run hares under the lamp.purley because thats how I have been brought up but I have nothing against it and its each man to his own sport.

I would much rather see a hare lamped and taken with a lurcher than shot with a rifle at night or a shotgun by day.

But I do have to suggest if you have found that winter hares show no challenge to a good running dog then you have never ran a good one at night and certainly not on big land.

Although I dont run my dogs on them at night I have seen some very good daytime fen dogs have to work very hard to kill them under the lamp and they are not always successful.

On big land a good winter hare that knows its ground can soon be out of range of a good lamp and when he can acheive this its hat off to old sally as far as I'm concerned.

 

ATB

[jimmy100 48]

good thread this im surprised its never been posted before yes hares are easier to catch on the lamp so are foxes and rabbits and no one ever moaned about doing that :hmm: i can safely say ive caught more hares at night than in the day as long as its in the pot who really gives a f**k they taste the same caught day or night :bye:

[GUN SHIP 2]

who has a dog or dogs which could have done or could do a decent amount of hares in the lamp pre ban running big open winter wheat feilds ,

and as for my lab or springer would keep them to yourself

Depending on the time of the year A decent collie or alsation could catch a decent amount of hares,on the lamp.Lamped hares = a big NO SHOW in my books.But if you enjoy the advantage you have,against a lamped hare then ,enjoy.

 

time of year??read the post winter wheat i said ,december,jan,feb and you can bring your collie or alsation down any time this week and we will see ,i agree not as hard as daylight by no means but the dont hang around in the lamp on big feilds no fences or walls and long grass here ,

Well said .However i have found that winter or summer hares, that have been lamped on a regular basis,offer no challenge to a good running dog therefore i refuse to run my dog on lamped hares .

 

As I have said.I dont run hares under the lamp.purley because thats how I have been brought up but I have nothing against it and its each man to his own sport.

I would much rather see a hare lamped and taken with a lurcher than shot with a rifle at night or a shotgun by day.

But I do have to suggest if you have found that winter hares show no challenge to a good running dog then you have never ran a good one at night and certainly not on big land.

Although I dont run my dogs on them at night I have seen some very good daytime fen dogs have to work very hard to kill them under the lamp and they are not always successful.

On big land a good winter hare that knows its ground can soon be out of range of a good lamp and when he can acheive this its hat off to old sally as far as I'm concerned.

 

ATB

horses 4 courses

Edited March 4, 2011 by GUN SHIP

[fensaluki 35]

who has a dog or dogs which could have done or could do a decent amount of hares in the lamp pre ban running big open winter wheat feilds ,

and as for my lab or springer would keep them to yourself

Depending on the time of the year A decent collie or alsation could catch a decent amount of hares,on the lamp.Lamped hares = a big NO SHOW in my books.But if you enjoy the advantage you have,against a lamped hare then ,enjoy.

 

time of year??read the post winter wheat i said ,december,jan,feb and you can bring your collie or alsation down any time this week and we will see ,i agree not as hard as daylight by no means but the dont hang around in the lamp on big feilds no fences or walls and long grass here ,

Well said .However i have found that winter or summer hares, that have been lamped on a regular basis,offer no challenge to a good running dog therefore i refuse to run my dog on lamped hares .

 

As I have said.I dont run hares under the lamp.purley because thats how I have been brought up but I have nothing against it and its each man to his own sport.

I would much rather see a hare lamped and taken with a lurcher than shot with a rifle at night or a shotgun by day.

But I do have to suggest if you have found that winter hares show no challenge to a good running dog then you have never ran a good one at night and certainly not on big land.

Although I dont run my dogs on them at night I have seen some very good daytime fen dogs have to work very hard to kill them under the lamp and they are not always successful.

On big land a good winter hare that knows its ground can soon be out of range of a good lamp and when he can acheive this its hat off to old sally as far as I'm concerned.

 

ATB

Please Do no try to patronise me .How many hares have you bowled over on foot as they have panicked and ran back towards the lamp (ok young jefferson broke his ankle at the first attempt at kicking the hare ,but it was funny).Yes we can have some good sport with the winter hare however the orig post was about ,numbers and I think that lamping hares is a poor substitute to daytime.IMO only and no offence to cause an argument.

 

 

I am not patronising anybody.And if you read my post it at no stage says that all lamped hares are world beaters.and never suggested that if you picked your kick ups you couldn't slaughter them with a tidy dog.What I commented on was the fact you stated that lamped hares couldn't show any good running dog a challenge and this is untrue and I can state this as fact as I have witnessed some well known dogs of very good ranking miss them at night.

And also if they are so easy for any running dog to catch why would any body feel the need to kick them to slow them up.

You are totaly correct and they are no substiute for daytime coursing and personly I would rather miss them in the day time than kill them at night(pre ban of course) but looking back through the posts on this topic I cant see were any body has suggested otherwise.

horses for courses and if people are happy and they are not hurting any one else cant see what the problem is.

 

ATB

[inan 841]

good thread this im surprised its never been posted before yes hares are easier to catch on the lamp so are foxes and rabbits and no one ever moaned about doing that :hmm: i can safely say ive caught more hares at night than in the day as long as its in the pot who really gives a f**k they taste the same caught day or night :bye:

I am just curious, and emphatically not looking for an argument.

Do you get the same satisfaction out of your dog, catching a hare on the lamp,as one given a fair slip ,and coursed in daylight?

[jimmy100 48]

good thread this im surprised its never been posted before yes hares are easier to catch on the lamp so are foxes and rabbits and no one ever moaned about doing that :hmm: i can safely say ive caught more hares at night than in the day as long as its in the pot who really gives a f**k they taste the same caught day or night :bye:

I am just curious, and emphatically not looking for an argument.

Do you get the same satisfaction out of your dog, catching a hare on the lamp,as one given a fair slip ,and coursed in daylight?

of course not mate, far from it i said hares were easier to catch at night but they were still far from cannon fodder!!! end of the day they took some catching on the lamp ill fully agree that day time is the ultimate test BUT if you were hunting for food then lamping was a method worth using :thumbs:

[big chief1 40]

who has a dog or dogs which could have done or could do a decent amount of hares in the lamp pre ban running big open winter wheat feilds ,

and as for my lab or springer would keep them to yourself

Depending on the time of the year A decent collie or alsation could catch a decent amount of hares,on the lamp.Lamped hares = a big NO SHOW in my books.But if you enjoy the advantage you have,against a lamped hare then ,enjoy.

 

time of year??read the post winter wheat i said ,december,jan,feb and you can bring your collie or alsation down any time this week and we will see ,i agree not as hard as daylight by no means but the dont hang around in the lamp on big feilds no fences or walls and long grass here ,

Well said .However i have found that winter or summer hares, that have been lamped on a regular basis,offer no challenge to a good running dog therefore i refuse to run my dog on lamped hares .

 

I would disagree, regular lamped hares know what theyre doing and are harder to catch, fresh hares that havent seen a dog offer no challenge, got it wrong way round imo.

I can see both sides, If I lived nr open land like fen, etc, then I wouldnt lamp them, where I am the fields are small, fences, hedges, orchards, plenty of hares at night, daytime struggle to find them consistantly, so I do lamp them round abouts nr home, for the fact to get my dogs fit. Some can run alright even on lamp, round here they know their runs, sometimes they are easy sometimes they are not, sometimes they run into motor on the track, sometimes they get theyre ears down and break for the wood, depends on weather too, I would not lamp the land I walked daytime full stop. But I wouldnt knock anyone for doing it, its free country after all, every man for himself, who cares what the other man thinks, I know some good day dogs that cant catch on lamp here, but go to fen in day and never blank, its different running, they havent the time to do theyre normal job, a whippet will catch them here easier than a big fen dog, its also a good way to sharpen them up.

 

Alot of you lot on here that slate running them on lamp, sit there with dogs in kennels, waiting for right weather/ground, winter hares, then when dogs dont do ebverything say your dogs are not fit, run them on the lamp then they will be fit, just dont do it on coursing land, simple. Agreed lamping can mess up some dogs if too young, but its up to the owner to make decision whether to or not, some need it some dont, but it can give dogs confidence if they are not picking up etc, some get used to lamped hares and end up jacking in day, what you have to remember is all dogs are different.

 

Lampings alot less hassle too, less witnesses lol. well id rather lamp them for sport, than have no sport at all, good crack imo. And yes I am dedicated day walker on big land 400 miles for the big land for me. I got hares behind my house for lamping if I wanted. A true dog man will do whats best for the dog, not whats best for the hare.

[jimmy100 48]

who has a dog or dogs which could have done or could do a decent amount of hares in the lamp pre ban running big open winter wheat feilds ,

and as for my lab or springer would keep them to yourself

Depending on the time of the year A decent collie or alsation could catch a decent amount of hares,on the lamp.Lamped hares = a big NO SHOW in my books.But if you enjoy the advantage you have,against a lamped hare then ,enjoy.

 

time of year??read the post winter wheat i said ,december,jan,feb and you can bring your collie or alsation down any time this week and we will see ,i agree not as hard as daylight by no means but the dont hang around in the lamp on big feilds no fences or walls and long grass here ,

Well said .However i have found that winter or summer hares, that have been lamped on a regular basis,offer no challenge to a good running dog therefore i refuse to run my dog on lamped hares .

 

I would disagree, regular lamped hares know what theyre doing and are harder to catch, fresh hares that havent seen a dog offer no challenge, got it wrong way round imo.

I can see both sides, If I lived nr open land like fen, etc, then I wouldnt lamp them, where I am the fields are small, fences, hedges, orchards, plenty of hares at night, daytime struggle to find them consistantly, so I do lamp them round abouts nr home, for the fact to get my dogs fit. Some can run alright even on lamp, round here they know their runs, sometimes they are easy sometimes they are not, sometimes they run into motor on the track, sometimes they get theyre ears down and break for the wood, depends on weather too, I would not lamp the land I walked daytime full stop. But I wouldnt knock anyone for doing it, its free country after all, every man for himself, who cares what the other man thinks, I know some good day dogs that cant catch on lamp here, but go to fen in day and never blank, its different running, they havent the time to do theyre normal job, a whippet will catch them here easier than a big fen dog, its also a good way to sharpen them up.

 

Alot of you lot on here that slate running them on lamp, sit there with dogs in kennels, waiting for right weather/ground, winter hares, then when dogs dont do ebverything say your dogs are not fit, run them on the lamp then they will be fit, just dont do it on coursing land, simple. Agreed lamping can mess up some dogs if too young, but its up to the owner to make decision whether to or not, some need it some dont, but it can give dogs confidence if they are not picking up etc, some get used to lamped hares and end up jacking in day, what you have to remember is all dogs are different.

 

Lampings alot less hassle too, less witnesses lol. well id rather lamp them for sport, than have no sport at all, good crack imo. And yes I am dedicated day walker on big land 400 miles for the big land for me. I got hares behind my house for lamping if I wanted. A true dog man will do whats best for the dog, not whats best for the hare.

:thumbs:

[nighteyes 275]

hares are much harder daylight fact, but you still need a tidy dog to put double figures away in the lamp on big fields in the winter imo a very tidy dog

[nighteyes 275]

good thread this im surprised its never been posted before yes hares are easier to catch on the lamp so are foxes and rabbits and no one ever moaned about doing that :hmm: i can safely say ive caught more hares at night than in the day as long as its in the pot who really gives a f**k they taste the same caught day or night :bye:

I am just curious, and emphatically not looking for an argument.

Do you get the same satisfaction out of your dog, catching a hare on the lamp,as one given a fair slip ,and coursed in daylight?

 

 

if i had a purpose bred coursing dog then my answer would be no, but my lamping dog would struugle in the day so gets the same sort of challnge when runnig them in the lamp if that makes sence

[whin 463]

you get agood winter fit hare running away from lamp useing the contours of the land and tell me it is easy not ive had as much in the day as the nite , when it was leagal we lamped and ran daylite some feilds with lamp useless better for daylite , ive hunted big land most of my life and saw lots of dogs who coulnt catch astrong winter hare at nite not fast enough or clebver , smal feilds like in cumbria caut plenty but big sown land takes agood dog