dejcee 0 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 i have bsa ss in 22 and a 177 gas ram would this take the rife over legal limit if so by how much does any one know? Quote Link to post
rossy08 33 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 i have bsa ss in 22 and a 177 gas ram would this take the rife over legal limit if so by how much does any one know? i belive it would take you over the limit, 177 takes more air to fire there for if you put it on a 22 there would be to much power being deliverd, how much over i have no idea, i'm not very good with all things gas ram though to be fair,so some one elce may well say other wise, this is just my understanding of it. Andy Quote Link to post
gnipper 6,426 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Aren't gas rams adjustable? Quote Link to post
andyfr1968 772 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Aren't gas rams adjustable? Only on Theoben's own guns and the HW90, mate. All the retro fit kits are sealed. Quote Link to post
andyfr1968 772 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 i have bsa ss in 22 and a 177 gas ram would this take the rife over legal limit if so by how much does any one know? Is it really worth the risk of prosicution and losing your gun for the sake of about 1ft-lb?? Use the correct kit, mate, it's not worth it Cheers. Quote Link to post
matt_hooks 188 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 The answer is yes it will. How much is totally irrelevant. If it's over, it's over. Doesn't matter if it's 1 ft.lb over or 30 ft.lb over, it's still possession of a section 1 firearm without a certificate! Quote Link to post
barrywhite 282 Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 gas rams are rubbish .After a few mounths of heavy uses my 177 ram will be fine in a 22 because it lost power .Went back to spring MUCH better. Quote Link to post
Rake aboot 4,935 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 Yes,, it will become an FAC airgun with the 177 ram in it ! Not worth it bud ATB Quote Link to post
dejcee 0 Posted March 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 thanks for replys had the 177 gas ram from another rife think wont bother Quote Link to post
matt_hooks 188 Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 gas rams are rubbish .After a few mounths of heavy uses my 177 ram will be fine in a 22 because it lost power .Went back to spring MUCH better. You got a bad ram. Send it back to the supplier and get them to replace it! A gas ram is a better power source than a spring. The recoil doesn't have the bounce that a spring rifle does, and is basically straight. They are also a lot quieter than most springers, and you can leave them cocked without too much risk. Don't write all gas rams off because you got a dodgy one! I have an old Theoben Scirocco, one of their first rifles, and it is absolute heaven to shoot. Smooth, relatively quiet and running at about 10.5 ft.lb. Quote Link to post
barrywhite 282 Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 barrywhite, on 04 March 2011 - 10:04 PM, said: gas rams are rubbish .After a few mounths of heavy uses my 177 ram will be fine in a 22 because it lost power .Went back to spring MUCH better. You got a bad ram. Send it back to the supplier and get them to replace it! A gas ram is a better power source than a spring. The recoil doesn't have the bounce that a spring rifle does, and is basically straight. They are also a lot quieter than most springers, and you can leave them cocked without too much risk. Don't write all gas rams off because you got a dodgy one! I have an old Theoben Scirocco, one of their first rifles, and it is absolute heaven to shoot. Smooth, relatively quiet and running at about 10.5 ft.lb. .............................Mine was one for a lightnig 6 mounth guarantee only .sealed unit.I have since made a tight spring guide out of derlin and a top hat out of highcarbon steel that I hardend and polished that can rotate on a ptfe disc in the piston.the gun is now more quite and smooth to shoot than with the ram .But I dont leave the gun loaded when out shooting rabbits as I did with gas ram.would consider a hw 90 or similar but never get a drop in type ram ever again .I was told the ram would fail before I got it but I had to know. Quote Link to post
matt_hooks 188 Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 I've got a lightning that I put a gas ram in, must have been about 2004, maybe 2005? That still shoots full power and is a beaut to shoot. Like I say, you were just unlucky. I bet the Delrin guide, top hat etc. cost as much to make and fit as a gas ram! And most people don't have the kit lying around to machine the necessary parts. Quote Link to post
barrywhite 282 Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 matt hook ..... cost me very little have the kit lying around .I wanted to try a ram to see for my self .I was warned of the problems by a large gunshop in west london they now have nothing to do with rams because of the problems . I read different things on the net good and bad.so I tryed for my self .What happened was what I was told would happen by the gun shop.When it was working it was fine. it still shots at 10.9 ftlbs + .But it is failing leaking oil and lost 3/4 s of a ftlbs.I then wanted to try a well tuned spring . the spring is better to shot even if the ram was working fine the well tuned spring is better I feel .I would not go back to a ram even if a had a life time guaranty.the ram is a lot better than a standard bsa lightning. .I had the ram lying around for 6 mounths be for i put it in the gun .but only used it for 4 months +.It did get used a lot in the 4 mounths +. Quote Link to post
andyfr1968 772 Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 I guess it's the same as any mechanical device, Barry, sometimes they go tits up. I've had my HW90 for the best part of 15 years and it's never given me any problems and it's been used a hell of a lot. I had a Lightning with a ram for 3 years and it never gave me any problems either, also a Webley Tracker and an Xocet that I fitted with rams and they were fine too although they didn't get that much use, TBH but the Lightning was used on a very regular basis by a mate of mine who used it for pest control on his market garden. A decent spring can set you back over £20 and although a ram may well cost twice that, the other benefits they offer ie. less noise, faster lock time, less vibration, for me at least outweigh the price even if it does feck up within the same time as a steel spring. Just my opinion Cheers. Quote Link to post
barrywhite 282 Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 andyfr 1968 I would like to get or try a hw 90 .but that is a different ram to the lightning .the hw 90 is servisable .a new o ring and a pump up job done. Quote Link to post
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