.22lr or .17hmr

[matt_hooks 188]

Just to confuse matters slightly...

 

Personally I'd take a .22WMR over an HMR any day. No more noise, it's cheaper to shoot, not as prone to wind and carries far more downrange energy (and starts with a lot more too). Foxes out past 100 yards no problem, ditto bunnies. The heavier slug packs a punch and maintains energy better.

 

Also, there are a lot of .22WMR guns out there fairly cheap (compared to similar guns chambered in .17HMR.)

 

I also saw the other day that they are making the WMR in ballistic tipped variant now. I've not had a chance to try any, but these should be ultra accurate and VERY flat, as they run much faster than the standard slugs.

[t5avs1 2]

i have put .17hmr and fac air down on my form now so its bit to late to change but i am goin to ask my feo about having the sako quad and having another calibre barrell.

[dadioles 68]

i have put .17hmr and fac air down on my form now so its bit to late to change but i am goin to ask my feo about having the sako quad and having another calibre barrell.

 

Interesting choice, probably goes against all the advice given here. Do you really want to mess around swapping barrels? It will be interesting to hear what your FEO has to say, please let us know.

[t5avs1 2]

i have put the fac air down as i have permission where there is a lot of outbuildings sheds etc. and put the .17hmr for general rabbit control on other permissions.

 

no dont want to be changing barrells all the time but the option is always there if did purchase a quad, and wouldnt have to go and buy a whole new gun, scope etc

do you think this is a wrong thing to put then or?

[matt_hooks 188]

The FAC air you will almost certainly never buy, and if you do you will almost certainly regret it. For inside outbuildings and the like, a non-FAC air rifle is by far the better option. A .22LR will do everything the FAC air will, only better.

 

Each to their own though, if you really feel that FAC air and .17 are the best options, and can make the case to the FEO then go for it!

[t5avs1 2]

thanks for your replies

i already have the air rifle but under 12ft/lbs so was actually thinking about getting it registered and pumped up to desired power, but i understand what you are saying about the 22lr doing the same job.

and i have put down for .17hmr for the general vermin control on other permissions and for those longer shots

does that make sense i might just be explaining it funny

 

cheers

[Deker 3,478]

I personally would never have a .17hmr over a .22lr for the the following reasons:

 

.17hmr is pricey to run if you shoot a lot

.17hmr is fecking noisey compared to the .22lr

.17hmr is rubbish in the wind

to also have to clean a .17hmr barrel

 

I know it is a cracking round and a lot of my friends swear by them, but its not for me i'm afraid.

 

and just to put the cat amongst the pigeons, .22lr is also capable of handling charlie at reasonable ranges with well plced shots.

 

cheers

 

 

As many have said here they are DIFFERENT tools and both serve their purposes, if you have no need for one then fine, if you do, then you simply have to put up with everything you have said above!

 

[sibaldib 6]

I personally would never have a .17hmr over a .22lr for the the following reasons:

 

.17hmr is pricey to run if you shoot a lot

.17hmr is fecking noisey compared to the .22lr

.17hmr is rubbish in the wind

to also have to clean a .17hmr barrel

 

I know it is a cracking round and a lot of my friends swear by them, but its not for me i'm afraid.

 

and just to put the cat amongst the pigeons, .22lr is also capable of handling charlie at reasonable ranges with well plced shots.

 

cheers

 

Good point re Charlie. I was talking to my local gamekeeper this morning. He told me he has killed more foxes with a .22LR with subsonic ammunition (head shots)than any other rifle he owns, including his state of the art .223.

 

He puts this down to the fact that he always has it with him and his fieldcraft allows him to get the foxes in to about 60yds, which he considers to be near the maximum for the rifle/bullet combination on foxes.

 

It certainly gave me food for thought, as I am having rabbit problems in our horse paddocks and was getting a .17 HMR for that, but now I may spend more time learning the trajectory of my CZ452 with Eley subs and have less chance of spooking the horses.

 

AS always, it's horses for courses (no pun intended) and on open arable land my mate regularly takes rabbits at 130 yds and swears by his .17 HMR.

 

Cheers

 

Sib

[cragman 2,770]

I shoot a CZ .22LR. It suits what I need it for and is an excellent little rifle. Reels in the rabbits and corvids with confidence when they're just that bit further away.

[sureshot11 1]

My local force said I could have a Hmr but not a 22 as they say It`s a safer round .

[Deker 3,478]

My local force said I could have a Hmr but not a 22 as they say It`s a safer round .

 

 

That is the biggest load of Bullshit I have heard, on what basis do they make this earth shattering suggestion the HMR is a SAFER round?

[halamrose 24]

Its so expensive to use that you don't go shooting as often which must be safer

[Deker 3,478]

Its so expensive to use that you don't go shooting as often which must be safer

 

 

 

Well, that rules out centrefires for most people too.....

 

[dadioles 68]

Yet another case of inconsistency between police forces making them look stupid and putting us, the licence fee paying shooter, in an uncertain position regarding the law.

 

Unfortunately some FEO's just do not know their subject, how many of them get out and shoot with the range of weapons they are expected to have knowledge of? I would not mind betting that most are, for example, shotgun shooters who seldom, if ever, fire .22 or HMR or heavier calibres - I am sure they do their best, and the job is a lot harder than some might think, but are the FEO's given enough consistent support and guidance?.

 

There is clearly something wrong with the way firearms are administered. I have little doubt that with a couple of weeks or a months effort I could draw up a working guide for FEO's that would resolve the discrepancies, it really is that easy. There is a lot of money to be made here by commitees and lawyers and the great and good who just love being at the centre of things even though they lack either knowledge or ability (other than to talk the talk).

 

The muddle and confusion just goes on.....

 

Les

[langouroux 14]

I personally would never have a .17hmr over a .22lr for the the following reasons:

 

.17hmr is pricey to run if you shoot a lot

.17hmr is fecking noisey compared to the .22lr

.17hmr is rubbish in the wind

to also have to clean a .17hmr barrel

 

I know it is a cracking round and a lot of my friends swear by them, but its not for me i'm afraid.

 

and just to put the cat amongst the pigeons, .22lr is also capable of handling charlie at reasonable ranges with well plced shots.

 

cheers

 

Good point re Charlie. I was talking to my local gamekeeper this morning. He told me he has killed more foxes with a .22LR with subsonic ammunition (head shots)than any other rifle he owns, including his state of the art .223.

 

He puts this down to the fact that he always has it with him and his fieldcraft allows him to get the foxes in to about 60yds, which he considers to be near the maximum for the rifle/bullet combination on foxes.

 

It certainly gave me food for thought, as I am having rabbit problems in our horse paddocks and was getting a .17 HMR for that, but now I may spend more time learning the trajectory of my CZ452 with Eley subs and have less chance of spooking the horses.

 

AS always, it's horses for courses (no pun intended) and on open arable land my mate regularly takes rabbits at 130 yds and swears by his .17 HMR.

 

Cheers

 

Sib

 

 

this is also true for me! i have shot way morecharlies with my .22lr for the exact same reasons!