feo interview

[mcrobo123 0]

got my feo interview on monday!! yippee only took me 2 years to fill the forms in. he rang me on monday to ask me to get maps of the land so a long time was spent on google earth putting boundaries on all my permission phoned him tuesday to tell him it was done n he sounds like a nice bloke sed he wants to have a ride round my land with me to check it out and ask me a few questions. funny thing is ive got a dentist appointment an hour before he comes so im probably gonna have a numb face when im talking to him and be dribbleing everywhere hope he sees the funny side hopefully everything will go well as ive had a lot of experience with centerfire rifles and a fair bit with rimfire aswell. its just a big waiting game now ive got itchy fingers already!! cant wait till its all over and i can go spend some of the wedding fund on something a lot more usefull than a wedding thanks to everyone who has posted some really usefull info on here and cleared up a lot of simple questions, now comes the dificult decision of rifle choice not really thought too much about this yet only the caliber. oh well best get down the gunshop and see what it has too offer! has anyone got any suggestions for a light affordable (too a poor apprentice) .223? rimfires are cheap enough so i can manage that but centerfires are a bit of a grey area to me as i dont want a crap rifle but i havent got loads of money so just thought id put that one out there n see if any of u have any ideas. many thanks ROB-O

[tus 22]

good luck monnday still waiting for my phone call

[markha 99]

Good luck mate.

 

Tus, how long has it been since you sent your forms in?? Is P Childs your FEO?

[mcrobo123 0]

everything went well today. my feo was very helpfull and cleared all my land up to .270, and there was no mention of supervision conditions which was good. the only condition he did put on me was "no prone shooting" which was news to me ive never heard of this one before but lifes a big learning curve ad all that!, this was to do with some the land being flat, and i agreed with him fully and he said standing or off the back of a 4x4 is fine, just got to wait now, he said it will more than likely 6-8 weeks untill everythings sorted and back with me.then itll be

 

has anyone else had any strange conditions placed on them?

[matt_hooks 188]

everything went well today. my feo was very helpfull and cleared all my land up to .270, and there was no mention of supervision conditions which was good. the only condition he did put on me was "no prone shooting" which was news to me ive never heard of this one before but lifes a big learning curve ad all that!, this was to do with some the land being flat, and i agreed with him fully and he said standing or off the back of a 4x4 is fine, just got to wait now, he said it will more than likely 6-8 weeks untill everythings sorted and back with me.then itll be

 

has anyone else had any strange conditions placed on them?

 

Please tell me you didn't accept that as a condition on your certificate? What about if you get some different ground?

[mcrobo123 0]

accept it i did, i didnt see it as much of a problem as i shoot from my 4x4 most of the time anyway and i could see where hes comming from as most of my land it really flat , did think it was a bit strange though

[Jonophilpott 0]

Strange ive got two 10 acre paddocks which are flat nothing was said :/

 

I got the condition of no shooting with 50 feet of the highway.

[halamrose 24]

Strange ive got two 10 acre paddocks which are flat nothing was said :/

 

I got the condition of no shooting with 50 feet of the highway.

 

Some people get really confused by that shooting near the the highway thing - you wont find it in the firearms act, its in the road traffic act. Maybe the guy was confused himself and wanted to spell it out. Is there anything special about the road by your permission?

 

H

[dadioles 68]

When you get your actual licence please post the exact wording of your "condition" as what I have read so far seems a bit odd. Have they really made it a condition that you cannot use your gun within 50 feet of the road or was it just in conversation?

Similarly with shooting prone, is it verbal advice or a written condition. Why, for example, should you be prohibited from shooting prone when practicing on targets at a range?

Such conditions applied specifically to named permissions may not be unreasonable but surely not as a blanket condition. What happens if you get another permission in a really hilly area with huge backstops, the implication is that you would have to apply for a variation rather than simple approval of the permission.

[mcrobo123 0]

it was in the interview he said "im going to put a condition on u of no prone shooting" it was after i showed him the pictures of my land and told him it was mainly flat but i do have land with valleys in aswell he didnt really explain it very well but i will post the exact wording when my license arives i did get the impression from him that it would be on my licence though.

[Jonophilpott 0]

It is the A2 Which Runs from Dover all the way up to the M2 so a fairly busy road although common sense already says to me that im shooting downhill into a dip about 20 below the road surface but suppose they have to cover there own arse!

 

He said to me the words "Are you aware of the 50 feet from the highway rule" obviously i nodded and agreed :/

[halamrose 24]

Here is the exact wording from the Highways act, I expect so long as your not sitting on the verge it would be hard to get within 50 feet of the center of a large road, then for it to be an offence a user of the highway must be injured, interrupted or endangered. From http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1980/66

 

Danger or annoyance to users of highways and streets

 

161 Penalties for causing certain kinds of danger or annoyance.

 

(1)If a person, without lawful authority or excuse, deposits any thing whatsoever on a highway in consequence of which a user of the highway is injured or endangered, that person is guilty of an offence and liable to a fine not exceeding [F398level 3 on the standard scale].

 

[F399(2)If a person without lawful authority or excuse—

 

(a)lights any fire on or over a highway which consists of or comprises a carriageway; or

 

(b)discharges any firearm or firework within 50 feet of the centre of such a highway,

and in consequence a user of the highway is injured, interrupted or endangered, that person is guilty of an offence and liable to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.

 

(3)If a person plays at football or any other game on a highway to the annoyance of a user of the highway he is guilty of an offence and liable to a fine not exceeding [F400level 1 on the standard scale].

 

(4)If a person, without lawful authority or excuse, allows any filth, dirt, lime or other offensive matter or thing to run or flow on to a highway from any adjoining premises, he is guilty of an offence and liable to a fine not exceeding [F401level 1 on the standard scale].

[Jonophilpott 0]

So if i fire a firearm and it injures somebody on the highway and im 60 feet away then im not doing anything wrong :/

[matt_hooks 188]

So if i fire a firearm and it injures somebody on the highway and im 60 feet away then im not doing anything wrong :/

 

Now that depends.

 

Do you have permission to fire the weapon over the highway? (The answer is no, the Highways Agency doesn't give permission to shoot on its land)

 

The "fifty foot" condition is really meant to apply to the noise of the weapon causing, for example, horses to rear and become unpredictable. Common sense dictates you shouldn't be firing the weapon towards a major road, unless you have a significant backstop.

 

As for the "no prone shooting" thing, they can only recommend something like that for the specific piece of land. The FEO that visited me said that shooting from high seats would be preferred, but at the end of the day it's up to me, the one with the gun in his hands, to decide what is, and what isn't, a safe shot!

 

If he HAS put it as a condition on your certificate, I'd be asking them to take it off again, it's a ridiculous condition!

[mcrobo123 0]

im only going off what he said his exact words being "im going to put a condition on u of no prone shooting" we shall see what come through the letter box. as you say common sense is the main priority when shooting. the main point the feo was talking about when looking at my land was common sense aswell, he told me a few stories of people applying for fac's without using there common sense and asking for 22-250 on alotments just because a mate told them that was the calibre for fox and things like that , he had full faith in me though when i showed him what i considered to be the safe lines of fire and good backstops.