goshawking719 492 Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Has anyone any experience with moulting a PR gos out without freelofting?if so how did you get on etc as it is looking like I'm going to have to give it a try this year... I would free loft him but the aviery backs on to a neighbours garden so even if I fully secluded him I think he would still end up trashing himself if totally left to his own devices(they spend a lot of time having BBQ's/parties etc through the summer ) He is a little bashed up from this season and I obviously want him perfect for the start of next Cheers for any replies Quote Link to post
Millet 4,497 Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 My aviary backs onto a footpath that is pretty noisy through the summer with kids/motor bikes and concil grass cutters and god knows what else, he is into his third season now and has moulted out brilliant every time.. If i tried to moult him on a bow i am 99% certain he would not moult clean and i would be suprised if he survived all the stress through out the moult. Quote Link to post
austringer 0 Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 I would try free lofting him and see how it goes mate its defo the better option, but if you decide to tether him through the moult i would try and use a raptor post as much as pos rather than bowperch only, to keep him in better feather ,this would mean handling the bird so there is goin to be some stress either way.atb Quote Link to post
david901 164 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 My German gos is a nightmare freelofted and thrashes around at the slightest disturbance. Therefore last summer I moulted him out on a bow perch. In my opinion, a bowperch is better than a raptor post as the bird can bath, or lie down on the ground anytime it wants to. Good luck with him. David Quote Link to post
austringer 0 Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Hi david901, yes i agree a bow perch is better for offering your bird a bath and i do like to offer my birds the chance, i move them to a bow for short periods usually in the morning and especially in the heat of the summer months thats why i say to use a raptor post as much as possible and not only.If your german gos thrashes at the slightest disturbance while free lofted i would imagine he does the same while tetherd creating more chance of feather damage, it is for this reason i use a raptor post.atb Quote Link to post
jasper65 6 Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Has anyone any experience with moulting a PR gos out without freelofting?if so how did you get on etc as it is looking like I'm going to have to give it a try this year... I would free loft him but the aviery backs on to a neighbours garden so even if I fully secluded him I think he would still end up trashing himself if totally left to his own devices(they spend a lot of time having BBQ's/parties etc through the summer ) He is a little bashed up from this season and I obviously want him perfect for the start of next Cheers for any replies Had a few P/R Gos's on bows in the past through out the moult and have to say they seem to start out ok! but as their condition goes up and the more spooky they get the more problems you have. obviously reducing stress is another major factor in the moult which is why secluded Free lofting takes some beating with a P/R bird. Fret marks, Damaged feathers, Damaged shafts from feathers still in the blood, slow moult, incomplete moult ECT, just to name a few, then again if you have no other option you have no other choice. they're all different with their own different personalities! Hopefully you have a nice sensible Gos that will sail through the moult bowed without a problem ... Quote Link to post
cocker 2,654 Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 if you moult the gos tethered to a perch, then let the grass around the perch grow a little longer, dont cut it as short as often, if the gos bates, the lush grass (obviously dont let it get too long) will be better, Quote Link to post
Millet 4,497 Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 IMO it wont stop stress and fret marks on the new feather growth no matter what the bird bates onto. Quote Link to post
trappa 517 Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 Thats a long time to keep a gos on a bow. My p/r gos was put into the smaller of my aviaries in order for it to not build up any speed and covered the mesh so it was totally enclosed. I would have a punt and say it would damage itself more on a bow than freelofted in a small enclosed aviary. Quote Link to post
goshawking719 492 Posted March 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Thanks for the replies everyone- he is kept on a raptor post through out the season, think a bow would of been a deffinate no, no. Anyways over the past weekend I totally enclosed his aviary and with a bit of stratigic perch placement he seems quite content- now just waiting for him to start throwing some feathers out... Hope everyones birds moult out well for them this summer- atb Adam Quote Link to post
bullet 125 Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 if your planning on doing it this way you are going have to keep a routeen, same method everyday with no change, ive heard of it with a falcon but not with a gos, good luck Quote Link to post
fireash123 1 Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 i done it with na pr male gos, and as jasper said was fine till mid moult and started getting more flighty. then evenings bating to get higher. when i boaght a high ring perch it seemed to solve the problem. hate those raptor post. will end up damaging the rear helux with the bating. the ring gives them more freedom i think if you need to go down the teathering route. atb Ash Quote Link to post
jasper65 6 Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 hate those raptor post. will end up damaging the rear helux with the bating. the ring gives them more freedom i think if you need to go down the teathering route.atb Ash 100% bang on Fireash . I have never owned one or would ever consider one, the whole concept for perching a accipter on a post just doesn't add up . the general rule of thumb is Falcons was Blocked and Hawks Perched! the old school falconers who dwelled over this over years of knowledge knew exactly what they was on. why now people have decided to change things and stick a Hawk on basically what is a extended Block or should I say post is totaly beyond me . atb Jasp Quote Link to post
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