Brummy 9 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 (edited) Lampinglurchers you are a very sensitive soul aren't you? Anyone would think I'd insulted your mother !! I would like to go on record and clearly state that I have never used this or any other forum to denigrate anyones breeding/crosses. Neither do I profess to be any kind of expert on any kind of animal other than attractive females of our species !! However, last time this subject of Ridgebacks and lurcher derivatives thereof was raised I dared to raise my head above the parapet and question the motivation for any UK sportsman to desire such a beast !!! Sorry for airing my OPINION ! I take it that the other like minded individuals to myself on this site are also big talking wankers such as myself? Where will these "working" Ridgeback sires come from in the UK and what exactly would a purebred Ridgeback work that would make it a worthy candidate to become an ingredient in a lurcher ? I seem to recall a fellow Ridgeback fancier stating on an earlier thread that a Ridgeback was one of the fastest dogs on earth !!! As for your comments on my own dogs, most amusing.I wouldn't even bother discussing their breeding or anything else with you as they're probably not exotic enough for your tastes. Any considered mature feedback would be most welcome........ Do you remember these posts you made Lampinglurcher? Your tastes really are exotic aren't they ? Posted on: Jan 23 2007, 05:49 PM forgot to mention that id love a bull arab someday and a doberman/greyhound (why arent they used?!) a foxhound, a well bred boxer, and richard christians old dog nell ~ what a dog eh? Posted on: Jan 21 2007, 02:14 PM I would like to own an old style english bull, not the egg headed, stumpy show bollocks we see today, but a powerful and capable hunting bull terrier. OR a dogo argentina (if i had quarry to work it). failing that a nice athletic ridgeback. Posted on: Jan 28 2007, 09:28 PM i run a boxer which is fairly quick and has caught deer and a couple of fox but he took a while to catch on. as far as greyhounds go they can be a bit finicky about weather etc, you would probably be better of getting a lurcher of sorts. where abouts do you live mate? if you're anywhere near me you're morre than welcome to come along for a days hunting to show your dog what its all about. You seem to be very confused and angry !!!! Edited January 31, 2007 by Brummy Quote Link to post
lucky 578 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 boxers running and catching deer, doberman x greyhounds, 1 question WHY ?, theres plenty of purpose bred dogs available for what ever quarry anyone should wish to hunt. but every now and then someone invents the next best dog, purely for the purpose of lining there own pockets, but to do this they have then to find a few gullable people to buy them, then something new is produced and the "used to be" best dog, is left in the rehoming centre as its no longer "fashionable" Quote Link to post
Berkutchi 0 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 (edited) In Oz they use pure Ridgeback's for finding wild pigs and Fox in partnership with either a staghound or deerhound running dog.But they keep Ridgebacks pure. Edited January 31, 2007 by Berkutchi Quote Link to post
Guest game'dogs Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 i have seen a few pure RB dogs but to be honest i wouldnt want to x one with a grey ! there is no need to ! the breed looks good as it is and since i havent had eny hands on with them i wouldnt want to take the chance , i thingk it would be a long long process to get what i wanted out of a running dog to get what i wanted . Quote Link to post
jimfin 0 Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 a friend of mine from lancaster goes lamping with a lad that has one.don't know how much ridgeback is in it but from what i'm told it catches all quarry on the lamp .i think it came about from an accidental mating.i will speak to my mate today and get back to you Quote Link to post
stevemac 442 Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 As I am a long supporter of the ridgeback breed I started to read this topic with interest only to be disapointed. Rather than finding a constructive conversion I have only found a pack of knockers ready to bag out any one with an imagination, it must be so wounderful to be tucked up in your little cocoons and never having to look past your bull greys or lurches and good luck to you with them. I have known many ridgeback greyhound crosses they are an exerlent dog for roo, fox, pig, hare and rabbit. these dogs are very popular with some professional roo shooters that I know . The ridgeback brings endurance strenght and nose to the mix while the greyhound brings speed and improved prey drive. It is perferable to us a greyhound dog as the ridgeback will whelp with less problems. not saying that it cant be done the other way. I might add that the ridgeback did not just appear out of the blue it was made up from mastiffs bloodhounds sighthounds native's dogs and others. stevemac Quote Link to post
Stabs 3 Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 I see your point Steve, but you have to understand the Ridgey cross doesn't really have that much of a role over here mate. We have proven fox dogs and there's a whole multitude of lurcher types we have to choose from. There are too many dogs being bred that don't come from tried and tested parents and we see these "exotics" crop up in conversation all the time. If you've got guaranteed homes for all the pups then go for your life but so many don't. People spend their time reinventing the wheel and churning out pups for no good reason. There's a Ridgey x Grey near me and it's a handsome animal alright. Couldn't catch a cold though and fucks off with it's nose to the ground all the time. Each to their own but people should think about what they want from a dog and ask themselves are there any dogs that fit that bill out there already. Chances are there will be. Quote Link to post
stevemac 442 Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Yeh. Same happens here some times Stabs. those that say horses for courses are generally right. Read some history on Lion hunting in africa the other day found it interesting when it said one of the first breds tryed were bulldogs and bulldog x greyhounds they didnt last long as they were to full on and got them selves torn to pieces. steve Quote Link to post
lampinglurcher 36 Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Lampinglurchers you are a very sensitive soul aren't you? Anyone would think I'd insulted your mother !!I would like to go on record and clearly state that I have never used this or any other forum to denigrate anyones breeding/crosses. Neither do I profess to be any kind of expert on any kind of animal other than attractive females of our species !! However, last time this subject of Ridgebacks and lurcher derivatives thereof was raised I dared to raise my head above the parapet and question the motivation for any UK sportsman to desire such a beast !!! Sorry for airing my OPINION ! I take it that the other like minded individuals to myself on this site are also big talking wankers such as myself? Where will these "working" Ridgeback sires come from in the UK and what exactly would a purebred Ridgeback work that would make it a worthy candidate to become an ingredient in a lurcher ? I seem to recall a fellow Ridgeback fancier stating on an earlier thread that a Ridgeback was one of the fastest dogs on earth !!! As for your comments on my own dogs, most amusing.I wouldn't even bother discussing their breeding or anything else with you as they're probably not exotic enough for your tastes. Any considered mature feedback would be most welcome........ Do you remember these posts you made Lampinglurcher? Your tastes really are exotic aren't they ? Posted on: Jan 23 2007, 05:49 PM forgot to mention that id love a bull arab someday and a doberman/greyhound (why arent they used?!) a foxhound, a well bred boxer, and richard christians old dog nell ~ what a dog eh? Posted on: Jan 21 2007, 02:14 PM I would like to own an old style english bull, not the egg headed, stumpy show bollocks we see today, but a powerful and capable hunting bull terrier. OR a dogo argentina (if i had quarry to work it). failing that a nice athletic ridgeback. Posted on: Jan 28 2007, 09:28 PM i run a boxer which is fairly quick and has caught deer and a couple of fox but he took a while to catch on. as far as greyhounds go they can be a bit finicky about weather etc, you would probably be better of getting a lurcher of sorts. where abouts do you live mate? if you're anywhere near me you're morre than welcome to come along for a days hunting to show your dog what its all about. You seem to be very confused and angry !!!! if you had the decency to read my other posts concerning my boxer, you would realise that i fell into owning it, i would never have chosen to get one, but after having one i found out what i was missing. i think you have missinterperated my posts, there are many dogs i would like to own in the future if i had work for them ~ how many people on here have never wanted a dog they havent got? honestly. your reply asking what the breed could bring to the lurcher world seems fairly uneducated as if you knew how well these dogs CAN work you would not have posted that. as stevemac, a man who owns and works the breed has said: The ridgeback brings endurance strength and nose to the mix while the greyhound brings speed and improved prey drive. i can see that adding an "exotic" breed to a mix doesnt suit everyones taste and may not excell on legal quarry in the uk, but if it was only legal quarry hunted by us on here then why would anyone need anything but a beddy/whippet? there is no need for bull x's or deerhound x's. im sure that when someone decided to add bull terrier or saluki to a breeding program some disagreed. why? because those people didnt like the idea of change. much like some on here. why would someone want to add ridgeback to their lurcher? because of the possibility of a better dog. they have been proven in other countries ~ why immediately dismiss the idea? Quote Link to post
scouse moocher 0 Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 (edited) Its just two sides if the penny people dont like to flip that often. If you realy believed that crossing a Ridgeback witha greyhound or lurcher would produce a litter of very capable and efficient hunting dogs than why not? After all every other lurcher cross was invented by experimenting after hopefuly an 'informed ' decison. However, to breed a litter of pups that are going to prove hard to allocate good working homes to is highly irresponcible. Admititdly some folk dont like change. . . But most folk are dreading the thought of 'likeminded' backyard ' dog men' breeding this cross when they cant guarentee its not destined for the dogs home. ant Edited February 3, 2007 by scouse moocher Quote Link to post
lampinglurcher 36 Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 a good point scouse moocher im not planning on getting one, just an interesting idea. Quote Link to post
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