JACKING (OR PULLING UP)

[baldockbanks courser 598]

how many of the people who have commented on this subject can honestlie say they have done a full season of running proper single handed dogs 2 - 3 days a week on big land and killed good hares regular????

Because iv read a lot of your answers to this lads question and it doesnt seem like it to me.

 

firstlie did you have the stopwatch and time the run mate? Iv seen a lot of coursing and very few runs ever last five minits, they may seem like it at the time but in reality it was probely 2 mins.

 

secondlie how can you comment on an older dog not being any good for running a hare for a long time? lucky and foxy no doubt had real long runs were they no good?

 

how can you blame someone for the pup getting in on a long run hes not a fortune teller howd he know it was going to go a long way when he slipped it ? ?

 

Come on when are you ment to feed a dog a fortnight before you run it ? ? ? hows feeding it the night before an exuse thats when they should be feed.

 

once a SKIDDER always a SKIDDER once a lurcher knows he can throw the towel in he will do it again 1000%, Dump it or shoot it. iv given them the benifit of the doubt before and it may be next run the next month the next year but thell do it again when things ant going its way. it may be your fault it jacked but the damage was done.

 

Im not trying to ridicule people but Iv done a fair bit of coursing in the past and if you run the odd hare when you see one on the lamp or keep rabbiting lurchers i dont think you should stick the boot in so easily.

 

 

Well mate ,Ive done more thn my fair share and 99% of it has been on big land and with top class quarry.

 

Firstly. The chap stated that it was five mins plus and that is what most folk have answered to why call the bloke a liar unless you have a reason to back it up.

 

Secondly. Nobody was trying to say that the like of foxy and lucky were anything other than top class dogs and yes they may well ahve taken this long to take hares but as I stated in my post this would have been single handed and not doubled up which is were the doubt on the other dogs caperbility is coming into this arguement.( a dog with five mins in the tank on its own is a high class animal one that takes this long doubled up could well be seen as under acheiveing).

 

Thirdly. I run out with many very good dog men in all sorts of disiplins and few of them feel the need to shoot,dump or ill treat a dog.true many will not keep an under acheiver but carry out their duty and find it a good pet home.

And even the ones who may feel the way you do wouldn't blurt it out on an internet forum for the world and his anti wife to see..

 

I understand some of what your saying mate but I beleive that your taking out of context some of the points raised.Also you have a fair and widly agrred point that once a spewer always a spewer but I myself have seen quite some few dogs spew and although I wont lie and say go on to make good daytime hare dogs some have gone on to make very good lampers,moochers and as I say if all else fails good pets.

 

ATB

Fen saluki if you run the fen regular then you know your coursing and your qualifed to put your point forward its people who dont who shouldnt comment.

 

Thanks

 

So you only know about coursing if you run on the fen then???

hahaha Your talking utter shite! and every one can and will have their say, don't matter what you think!

Bit like you talking on posts you wanted no part in remember!

One thing we all know is not to put 11month old pup on a hare! only a dick head would do that!

why get personal?

iv run the fen a little myself but I run big feilds and on big banks and i used to run purley day time hares week in week out from october to the end of feb.

 

I said if the fella runs the fens with salukis and saluki lurchers so he should know his stuff.

 

your the kind of person im talking about A SHOW PONEY a RACING MAN or at very best a rabbiter whos rabbit dogs run the odd hare in a paddock now and again.

carrying on like your a coursing man.

 

get back to your lure you can adjust the speed and ditance so your lurcher wont jam on.

[baw 4,360]

how many of the people who have commented on this subject can honestlie say they have done a full season of running proper single handed dogs 2 - 3 days a week on big land and killed good hares regular????

Because iv read a lot of your answers to this lads question and it doesnt seem like it to me.

 

firstlie did you have the stopwatch and time the run mate? Iv seen a lot of coursing and very few runs ever last five minits, they may seem like it at the time but in reality it was probely 2 mins.

 

secondlie how can you comment on an older dog not being any good for running a hare for a long time? lucky and foxy no doubt had real long runs were they no good?

 

how can you blame someone for the pup getting in on a long run hes not a fortune teller howd he know it was going to go a long way when he slipped it ? ?

 

Come on when are you ment to feed a dog a fortnight before you run it ? ? ? hows feeding it the night before an exuse thats when they should be feed.

 

once a SKIDDER always a SKIDDER once a lurcher knows he can throw the towel in he will do it again 1000%, Dump it or shoot it. iv given them the benifit of the doubt before and it may be next run the next month the next year but thell do it again when things ant going its way. it may be your fault it jacked but the damage was done.

 

Im not trying to ridicule people but Iv done a fair bit of coursing in the past and if you run the odd hare when you see one on the lamp or keep rabbiting lurchers i dont think you should stick the boot in so easily.

 

 

Well mate ,Ive done more thn my fair share and 99% of it has been on big land and with top class quarry.

 

Firstly. The chap stated that it was five mins plus and that is what most folk have answered to why call the bloke a liar unless you have a reason to back it up.

 

Secondly. Nobody was trying to say that the like of foxy and lucky were anything other than top class dogs and yes they may well ahve taken this long to take hares but as I stated in my post this would have been single handed and not doubled up which is were the doubt on the other dogs caperbility is coming into this arguement.( a dog with five mins in the tank on its own is a high class animal one that takes this long doubled up could well be seen as under acheiveing).

 

Thirdly. I run out with many very good dog men in all sorts of disiplins and few of them feel the need to shoot,dump or ill treat a dog.true many will not keep an under acheiver but carry out their duty and find it a good pet home.

And even the ones who may feel the way you do wouldn't blurt it out on an internet forum for the world and his anti wife to see..

 

I understand some of what your saying mate but I beleive that your taking out of context some of the points raised.Also you have a fair and widly agrred point that once a spewer always a spewer but I myself have seen quite some few dogs spew and although I wont lie and say go on to make good daytime hare dogs some have gone on to make very good lampers,moochers and as I say if all else fails good pets.

 

ATB

Fen saluki if you run the fen regular then you know your coursing and your qualifed to put your point forward its people who dont who shouldnt comment.

 

Thanks

 

So you only know about coursing if you run on the fen then???

hahaha Your talking utter shite! and every one can and will have their say, don't matter what you think!

Bit like you talking on posts you wanted no part in remember!

One thing we all know is not to put 11month old pup on a hare! only a dick head would do that!

why get personal?

iv run the fen a little myself but I run big feilds and on big banks and i used to run purley day time hares week in week out from october to the end of feb.

 

I said if the fella runs the fens with salukis and saluki lurchers so he should know his stuff.

 

your the kind of person im talking about A SHOW PONEY a RACING MAN or at very best a rabbiter whos rabbit dogs run the odd hare in a paddock now and again.

carrying on like your a coursing man.

 

get back to your lure you can adjust the speed and ditance so your lurcher wont jam on.

 

How must he know his stuff if he runs salukis on the fens? Does the fens have a turnstyle and a check point? Never heard anything so daft on here for a long time..... ok, since yesterday!!!

[graham4877 1,181]

how many of the people who have commented on this subject can honestlie say they have done a full season of running proper single handed dogs 2 - 3 days a week on big land and killed good hares regular????

Because iv read a lot of your answers to this lads question and it doesnt seem like it to me.

 

firstlie did you have the stopwatch and time the run mate? Iv seen a lot of coursing and very few runs ever last five minits, they may seem like it at the time but in reality it was probely 2 mins.

 

secondlie how can you comment on an older dog not being any good for running a hare for a long time? lucky and foxy no doubt had real long runs were they no good?

 

how can you blame someone for the pup getting in on a long run hes not a fortune teller howd he know it was going to go a long way when he slipped it ? ?

 

Come on when are you ment to feed a dog a fortnight before you run it ? ? ? hows feeding it the night before an exuse thats when they should be feed.

 

once a SKIDDER always a SKIDDER once a lurcher knows he can throw the towel in he will do it again 1000%, Dump it or shoot it. iv given them the benifit of the doubt before and it may be next run the next month the next year but thell do it again when things ant going its way. it may be your fault it jacked but the damage was done.

 

Im not trying to ridicule people but Iv done a fair bit of coursing in the past and if you run the odd hare when you see one on the lamp or keep rabbiting lurchers i dont think you should stick the boot in so easily.

 

 

Well mate ,Ive done more thn my fair share and 99% of it has been on big land and with top class quarry.

 

Firstly. The chap stated that it was five mins plus and that is what most folk have answered to why call the bloke a liar unless you have a reason to back it up.

 

Secondly. Nobody was trying to say that the like of foxy and lucky were anything other than top class dogs and yes they may well ahve taken this long to take hares but as I stated in my post this would have been single handed and not doubled up which is were the doubt on the other dogs caperbility is coming into this arguement.( a dog with five mins in the tank on its own is a high class animal one that takes this long doubled up could well be seen as under acheiveing).

 

Thirdly. I run out with many very good dog men in all sorts of disiplins and few of them feel the need to shoot,dump or ill treat a dog.true many will not keep an under acheiver but carry out their duty and find it a good pet home.

And even the ones who may feel the way you do wouldn't blurt it out on an internet forum for the world and his anti wife to see..

 

I understand some of what your saying mate but I beleive that your taking out of context some of the points raised.Also you have a fair and widly agrred point that once a spewer always a spewer but I myself have seen quite some few dogs spew and although I wont lie and say go on to make good daytime hare dogs some have gone on to make very good lampers,moochers and as I say if all else fails good pets.

 

ATB

Fen saluki if you run the fen regular then you know your coursing and your qualifed to put your point forward its people who dont who shouldnt comment.

 

Thanks

 

So you only know about coursing if you run on the fen then???

hahaha Your talking utter shite! and every one can and will have their say, don't matter what you think!

Bit like you talking on posts you wanted no part in remember!

One thing we all know is not to put 11month old pup on a hare! only a dick head would do that!

why get personal?

iv run the fen a little myself but I run big feilds and on big banks and i used to run purley day time hares week in week out from october to the end of feb.

 

I said if the fella runs the fens with salukis and saluki lurchers so he should know his stuff.

 

your the kind of person im talking about A SHOW PONEY a RACING MAN or at very best a rabbiter whos rabbit dogs run the odd hare in a paddock now and again.

carrying on like your a coursing man.

 

get back to your lure you can adjust the speed and ditance so your lurcher wont jam on.

 

"why get personal" well remember when i put the post up about lures as i'm making them to sell and i wanted to know how many runs lads would do!

remember what you said??? what was it?? Oh aye, " I hope some one smacks you in the monuth" That is why you jumpped up little pick!

 

And No you said "if you run the fen regular then you know your coursing and your qualifed to put your point forward its people who dont who shouldnt comment" so don't try to back track!!

 

Oh and for the lure

like what was said they are made to be sold,n yes i use a lure now and then,

what was it you said why use it when theirs game to run, well because i'm lucky to get two runs a night with over 5 hours out on the lamp!

Your the show pony son, i don't need to prove anything to any f****r on here or at home!

Oh and my bitch will run anything i put her on, I hunt for food not sport, or to say i'm the big man!!

How is your dogs by the way????

 

Treat people the way they treat you, so that is what your getting back!

Edited March 1, 2011 by graham4877

[baldockbanks courser 598]

how many of the people who have commented on this subject can honestlie say they have done a full season of running proper single handed dogs 2 - 3 days a week on big land and killed good hares regular????

Because iv read a lot of your answers to this lads question and it doesnt seem like it to me.

 

firstlie did you have the stopwatch and time the run mate? Iv seen a lot of coursing and very few runs ever last five minits, they may seem like it at the time but in reality it was probely 2 mins.

 

secondlie how can you comment on an older dog not being any good for running a hare for a long time? lucky and foxy no doubt had real long runs were they no good?

 

how can you blame someone for the pup getting in on a long run hes not a fortune teller howd he know it was going to go a long way when he slipped it ? ?

 

Come on when are you ment to feed a dog a fortnight before you run it ? ? ? hows feeding it the night before an exuse thats when they should be feed.

 

once a SKIDDER always a SKIDDER once a lurcher knows he can throw the towel in he will do it again 1000%, Dump it or shoot it. iv given them the benifit of the doubt before and it may be next run the next month the next year but thell do it again when things ant going its way. it may be your fault it jacked but the damage was done.

 

Im not trying to ridicule people but Iv done a fair bit of coursing in the past and if you run the odd hare when you see one on the lamp or keep rabbiting lurchers i dont think you should stick the boot in so easily.

 

 

Well mate ,Ive done more thn my fair share and 99% of it has been on big land and with top class quarry.

 

Firstly. The chap stated that it was five mins plus and that is what most folk have answered to why call the bloke a liar unless you have a reason to back it up.

 

Secondly. Nobody was trying to say that the like of foxy and lucky were anything other than top class dogs and yes they may well ahve taken this long to take hares but as I stated in my post this would have been single handed and not doubled up which is were the doubt on the other dogs caperbility is coming into this arguement.( a dog with five mins in the tank on its own is a high class animal one that takes this long doubled up could well be seen as under acheiveing).

 

Thirdly. I run out with many very good dog men in all sorts of disiplins and few of them feel the need to shoot,dump or ill treat a dog.true many will not keep an under acheiver but carry out their duty and find it a good pet home.

And even the ones who may feel the way you do wouldn't blurt it out on an internet forum for the world and his anti wife to see..

 

I understand some of what your saying mate but I beleive that your taking out of context some of the points raised.Also you have a fair and widly agrred point that once a spewer always a spewer but I myself have seen quite some few dogs spew and although I wont lie and say go on to make good daytime hare dogs some have gone on to make very good lampers,moochers and as I say if all else fails good pets.

 

ATB

Fen saluki if you run the fen regular then you know your coursing and your qualifed to put your point forward its people who dont who shouldnt comment.

 

Thanks

 

So you only know about coursing if you run on the fen then???

hahaha Your talking utter shite! and every one can and will have their say, don't matter what you think!

Bit like you talking on posts you wanted no part in remember!

One thing we all know is not to put 11month old pup on a hare! only a dick head would do that!

why get personal?

iv run the fen a little myself but I run big feilds and on big banks and i used to run purley day time hares week in week out from october to the end of feb.

 

I said if the fella runs the fens with salukis and saluki lurchers so he should know his stuff.

 

your the kind of person im talking about A SHOW PONEY a RACING MAN or at very best a rabbiter whos rabbit dogs run the odd hare in a paddock now and again.

carrying on like your a coursing man.

 

get back to your lure you can adjust the speed and ditance so your lurcher wont jam on.

 

"why get personal" well remember when i put the post up about lures as i'm making them to sell and i wanted to know how many runs lads would do!

remember what you said??? what was it?? Oh aye, " I hope some one smacks you in the monuth" That is why you jumpped up little pick!

 

And No you said "if you run the fen regular then you know your coursing and your qualifed to put your point forward its people who dont who shouldnt comment" so don't try to back track!!

 

Oh and for the lure

like what was said they are made to be sold,n yes i use a lure now and then,

what was it you said why use it when theirs game to run, well because i'm lucky to get two runs a night with over 5 hours out on the lamp!

Your the show pony son, i don't need to prove anything to any f****r on here or at home!

Oh and my bitch will run anything i put her on, I hunt for food not sport, or to say i'm the big man!!

How is your dogs by the way????

 

Treat people the way they treat you, so that is what your getting back!

hows my dogs?

there honest decent dogs. You want a spin on hare and or rabbits day or night no problem at all.

Iv got the land ill run you on the lamp alternit runs for 2 - 3 hours heaps of rabbits to go at will see how you get on. All I do is keep workers im not a flash fella but there handy enough.

 

thats not an open invite boys to every man and hes dogs in England !

[graham4877 1,181]

how many of the people who have commented on this subject can honestlie say they have done a full season of running proper single handed dogs 2 - 3 days a week on big land and killed good hares regular????

Because iv read a lot of your answers to this lads question and it doesnt seem like it to me.

 

firstlie did you have the stopwatch and time the run mate? Iv seen a lot of coursing and very few runs ever last five minits, they may seem like it at the time but in reality it was probely 2 mins.

 

secondlie how can you comment on an older dog not being any good for running a hare for a long time? lucky and foxy no doubt had real long runs were they no good?

 

how can you blame someone for the pup getting in on a long run hes not a fortune teller howd he know it was going to go a long way when he slipped it ? ?

 

Come on when are you ment to feed a dog a fortnight before you run it ? ? ? hows feeding it the night before an exuse thats when they should be feed.

 

once a SKIDDER always a SKIDDER once a lurcher knows he can throw the towel in he will do it again 1000%, Dump it or shoot it. iv given them the benifit of the doubt before and it may be next run the next month the next year but thell do it again when things ant going its way. it may be your fault it jacked but the damage was done.

 

Im not trying to ridicule people but Iv done a fair bit of coursing in the past and if you run the odd hare when you see one on the lamp or keep rabbiting lurchers i dont think you should stick the boot in so easily.

 

 

Well mate ,Ive done more thn my fair share and 99% of it has been on big land and with top class quarry.

 

Firstly. The chap stated that it was five mins plus and that is what most folk have answered to why call the bloke a liar unless you have a reason to back it up.

 

Secondly. Nobody was trying to say that the like of foxy and lucky were anything other than top class dogs and yes they may well ahve taken this long to take hares but as I stated in my post this would have been single handed and not doubled up which is were the doubt on the other dogs caperbility is coming into this arguement.( a dog with five mins in the tank on its own is a high class animal one that takes this long doubled up could well be seen as under acheiveing).

 

Thirdly. I run out with many very good dog men in all sorts of disiplins and few of them feel the need to shoot,dump or ill treat a dog.true many will not keep an under acheiver but carry out their duty and find it a good pet home.

And even the ones who may feel the way you do wouldn't blurt it out on an internet forum for the world and his anti wife to see..

 

I understand some of what your saying mate but I beleive that your taking out of context some of the points raised.Also you have a fair and widly agrred point that once a spewer always a spewer but I myself have seen quite some few dogs spew and although I wont lie and say go on to make good daytime hare dogs some have gone on to make very good lampers,moochers and as I say if all else fails good pets.

 

ATB

Fen saluki if you run the fen regular then you know your coursing and your qualifed to put your point forward its people who dont who shouldnt comment.

 

Thanks

 

So you only know about coursing if you run on the fen then???

hahaha Your talking utter shite! and every one can and will have their say, don't matter what you think!

Bit like you talking on posts you wanted no part in remember!

One thing we all know is not to put 11month old pup on a hare! only a dick head would do that!

why get personal?

iv run the fen a little myself but I run big feilds and on big banks and i used to run purley day time hares week in week out from october to the end of feb.

 

I said if the fella runs the fens with salukis and saluki lurchers so he should know his stuff.

 

your the kind of person im talking about A SHOW PONEY a RACING MAN or at very best a rabbiter whos rabbit dogs run the odd hare in a paddock now and again.

carrying on like your a coursing man.

 

get back to your lure you can adjust the speed and ditance so your lurcher wont jam on.

 

"why get personal" well remember when i put the post up about lures as i'm making them to sell and i wanted to know how many runs lads would do!

remember what you said??? what was it?? Oh aye, " I hope some one smacks you in the monuth" That is why you jumpped up little pick!

 

And No you said "if you run the fen regular then you know your coursing and your qualifed to put your point forward its people who dont who shouldnt comment" so don't try to back track!!

 

Oh and for the lure

like what was said they are made to be sold,n yes i use a lure now and then,

what was it you said why use it when theirs game to run, well because i'm lucky to get two runs a night with over 5 hours out on the lamp!

Your the show pony son, i don't need to prove anything to any f****r on here or at home!

Oh and my bitch will run anything i put her on, I hunt for food not sport, or to say i'm the big man!!

How is your dogs by the way????

 

Treat people the way they treat you, so that is what your getting back!

hows my dogs?

there honest decent dogs. You want a spin on hare and or rabbits day or night no problem at all.

Iv got the land ill run you on the lamp alternit runs for 2 - 3 hours heaps of rabbits to go at will see how you get on. All I do is keep workers im not a flash fella but there handy enough.

 

thats not an open invite boys to every man and hes dogs in England !

How long is that offer open for?? Just got no wheels as of yet, where abouts are you???

Your dog's got f****d up tho??? sure they ran in to eachother???

[theferreter 311]

an 11 month old pup running a hare for 5 minutes that is wrong any bit of wonder it blew up

[baldockbanks courser 598]

how many of the people who have commented on this subject can honestlie say they have done a full season of running proper single handed dogs 2 - 3 days a week on big land and killed good hares regular????

Because iv read a lot of your answers to this lads question and it doesnt seem like it to me.

 

firstlie did you have the stopwatch and time the run mate? Iv seen a lot of coursing and very few runs ever last five minits, they may seem like it at the time but in reality it was probely 2 mins.

 

secondlie how can you comment on an older dog not being any good for running a hare for a long time? lucky and foxy no doubt had real long runs were they no good?

 

how can you blame someone for the pup getting in on a long run hes not a fortune teller howd he know it was going to go a long way when he slipped it ? ?

 

Come on when are you ment to feed a dog a fortnight before you run it ? ? ? hows feeding it the night before an exuse thats when they should be feed.

 

once a SKIDDER always a SKIDDER once a lurcher knows he can throw the towel in he will do it again 1000%, Dump it or shoot it. iv given them the benifit of the doubt before and it may be next run the next month the next year but thell do it again when things ant going its way. it may be your fault it jacked but the damage was done.

 

Im not trying to ridicule people but Iv done a fair bit of coursing in the past and if you run the odd hare when you see one on the lamp or keep rabbiting lurchers i dont think you should stick the boot in so easily.

 

 

Well mate ,Ive done more thn my fair share and 99% of it has been on big land and with top class quarry.

 

Firstly. The chap stated that it was five mins plus and that is what most folk have answered to why call the bloke a liar unless you have a reason to back it up.

 

Secondly. Nobody was trying to say that the like of foxy and lucky were anything other than top class dogs and yes they may well ahve taken this long to take hares but as I stated in my post this would have been single handed and not doubled up which is were the doubt on the other dogs caperbility is coming into this arguement.( a dog with five mins in the tank on its own is a high class animal one that takes this long doubled up could well be seen as under acheiveing).

 

Thirdly. I run out with many very good dog men in all sorts of disiplins and few of them feel the need to shoot,dump or ill treat a dog.true many will not keep an under acheiver but carry out their duty and find it a good pet home.

And even the ones who may feel the way you do wouldn't blurt it out on an internet forum for the world and his anti wife to see..

 

I understand some of what your saying mate but I beleive that your taking out of context some of the points raised.Also you have a fair and widly agrred point that once a spewer always a spewer but I myself have seen quite some few dogs spew and although I wont lie and say go on to make good daytime hare dogs some have gone on to make very good lampers,moochers and as I say if all else fails good pets.

 

ATB

Fen saluki if you run the fen regular then you know your coursing and your qualifed to put your point forward its people who dont who shouldnt comment.

 

Thanks

 

So you only know about coursing if you run on the fen then???

hahaha Your talking utter shite! and every one can and will have their say, don't matter what you think!

Bit like you talking on posts you wanted no part in remember!

One thing we all know is not to put 11month old pup on a hare! only a dick head would do that!

why get personal?

iv run the fen a little myself but I run big feilds and on big banks and i used to run purley day time hares week in week out from october to the end of feb.

 

I said if the fella runs the fens with salukis and saluki lurchers so he should know his stuff.

 

your the kind of person im talking about A SHOW PONEY a RACING MAN or at very best a rabbiter whos rabbit dogs run the odd hare in a paddock now and again.

carrying on like your a coursing man.

 

get back to your lure you can adjust the speed and ditance so your lurcher wont jam on.

 

"why get personal" well remember when i put the post up about lures as i'm making them to sell and i wanted to know how many runs lads would do!

remember what you said??? what was it?? Oh aye, " I hope some one smacks you in the monuth" That is why you jumpped up little pick!

 

And No you said "if you run the fen regular then you know your coursing and your qualifed to put your point forward its people who dont who shouldnt comment" so don't try to back track!!

 

Oh and for the lure

like what was said they are made to be sold,n yes i use a lure now and then,

what was it you said why use it when theirs game to run, well because i'm lucky to get two runs a night with over 5 hours out on the lamp!

Your the show pony son, i don't need to prove anything to any f****r on here or at home!

Oh and my bitch will run anything i put her on, I hunt for food not sport, or to say i'm the big man!!

How is your dogs by the way????

 

Treat people the way they treat you, so that is what your getting back!

hows my dogs?

there honest decent dogs. You want a spin on hare and or rabbits day or night no problem at all.

Iv got the land ill run you on the lamp alternit runs for 2 - 3 hours heaps of rabbits to go at will see how you get on. All I do is keep workers im not a flash fella but there handy enough.

 

thats not an open invite boys to every man and hes dogs in England !

How long is that offer open for?? Just got no wheels as of yet, where abouts are you???

Your dog's got f****d up tho??? sure they ran in to eachother???

six week ago two run into each other yes, not f****d up just needed recovery time. I breed all my own stuff iv always got something fit. season done for me now to many milky does about.

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how many of the people who have commented on this subject can honestlie say they have done a full season of running proper single handed dogs 2 - 3 days a week on big land and killed good hares regular????

Because iv read a lot of your answers to this lads question and it doesnt seem like it to me.

 

firstlie did you have the stopwatch and time the run mate? Iv seen a lot of coursing and very few runs ever last five minits, they may seem like it at the time but in reality it was probely 2 mins.

 

secondlie how can you comment on an older dog not being any good for running a hare for a long time? lucky and foxy no doubt had real long runs were they no good?

 

how can you blame someone for the pup getting in on a long run hes not a fortune teller howd he know it was going to go a long way when he slipped it ? ?

 

Come on when are you ment to feed a dog a fortnight before you run it ? ? ? hows feeding it the night before an exuse thats when they should be feed.

 

once a SKIDDER always a SKIDDER once a lurcher knows he can throw the towel in he will do it again 1000%, Dump it or shoot it. iv given them the benifit of the doubt before and it may be next run the next month the next year but thell do it again when things ant going its way. it may be your fault it jacked but the damage was done.

 

Im not trying to ridicule people but Iv done a fair bit of coursing in the past and if you run the odd hare when you see one on the lamp or keep rabbiting lurchers i dont think you should stick the boot in so easily.

 

 

Well mate ,Ive done more thn my fair share and 99% of it has been on big land and with top class quarry.

 

Firstly. The chap stated that it was five mins plus and that is what most folk have answered to why call the bloke a liar unless you have a reason to back it up.

 

Secondly. Nobody was trying to say that the like of foxy and lucky were anything other than top class dogs and yes they may well ahve taken this long to take hares but as I stated in my post this would have been single handed and not doubled up which is were the doubt on the other dogs caperbility is coming into this arguement.( a dog with five mins in the tank on its own is a high class animal one that takes this long doubled up could well be seen as under acheiveing).

 

Thirdly. I run out with many very good dog men in all sorts of disiplins and few of them feel the need to shoot,dump or ill treat a dog.true many will not keep an under acheiver but carry out their duty and find it a good pet home.

And even the ones who may feel the way you do wouldn't blurt it out on an internet forum for the world and his anti wife to see..

 

I understand some of what your saying mate but I beleive that your taking out of context some of the points raised.Also you have a fair and widly agrred point that once a spewer always a spewer but I myself have seen quite some few dogs spew and although I wont lie and say go on to make good daytime hare dogs some have gone on to make very good lampers,moochers and as I say if all else fails good pets.

 

ATB

Fen saluki if you run the fen regular then you know your coursing and your qualifed to put your point forward its people who dont who shouldnt comment.

 

Thanks

 

So you only know about coursing if you run on the fen then???

hahaha Your talking utter shite! and every one can and will have their say, don't matter what you think!

Bit like you talking on posts you wanted no part in remember!

One thing we all know is not to put 11month old pup on a hare! only a dick head would do that!

why get personal?

iv run the fen a little myself but I run big feilds and on big banks and i used to run purley day time hares week in week out from october to the end of feb.

 

I said if the fella runs the fens with salukis and saluki lurchers so he should know his stuff.

 

your the kind of person im talking about A SHOW PONEY a RACING MAN or at very best a rabbiter whos rabbit dogs run the odd hare in a paddock now and again.

carrying on like your a coursing man.

 

get back to your lure you can adjust the speed and ditance so your lurcher wont jam on.

 

"why get personal" well remember when i put the post up about lures as i'm making them to sell and i wanted to know how many runs lads would do!

remember what you said??? what was it?? Oh aye, " I hope some one smacks you in the monuth" That is why you jumpped up little pick!

 

And No you said "if you run the fen regular then you know your coursing and your qualifed to put your point forward its people who dont who shouldnt comment" so don't try to back track!!

 

Oh and for the lure

like what was said they are made to be sold,n yes i use a lure now and then,

what was it you said why use it when theirs game to run, well because i'm lucky to get two runs a night with over 5 hours out on the lamp!

Your the show pony son, i don't need to prove anything to any f****r on here or at home!

Oh and my bitch will run anything i put her on, I hunt for food not sport, or to say i'm the big man!!

How is your dogs by the way????

 

Treat people the way they treat you, so that is what your getting back!

hows my dogs?

there honest decent dogs. You want a spin on hare and or rabbits day or night no problem at all.

Iv got the land ill run you on the lamp alternit runs for 2 - 3 hours heaps of rabbits to go at will see how you get on. All I do is keep workers im not a flash fella but there handy enough.

 

thats not an open invite boys to every man and hes dogs in England !

How long is that offer open for?? Just got no wheels as of yet, where abouts are you???

Your dog's got f****d up tho??? sure they ran in to eachother???

six week ago two run into each other yes, not f****d up just needed recovery time. I breed all my own stuff iv always got something fit. season done for me now to many milky does about.

 

 

So is it open for next year??

[fox digger 1,086]

how many of the people who have commented on this subject can honestlie say they have done a full season of running proper single handed dogs 2 - 3 days a week on big land and killed good hares regular????

Because iv read a lot of your answers to this lads question and it doesnt seem like it to me.

 

firstlie did you have the stopwatch and time the run mate? Iv seen a lot of coursing and very few runs ever last five minits, they may seem like it at the time but in reality it was probely 2 mins.

 

secondlie how can you comment on an older dog not being any good for running a hare for a long time? lucky and foxy no doubt had real long runs were they no good?

 

how can you blame someone for the pup getting in on a long run hes not a fortune teller howd he know it was going to go a long way when he slipped it ? ?

 

Come on when are you ment to feed a dog a fortnight before you run it ? ? ? hows feeding it the night before an exuse thats when they should be feed.

 

once a SKIDDER always a SKIDDER once a lurcher knows he can throw the towel in he will do it again 1000%, Dump it or shoot it. iv given them the benifit of the doubt before and it may be next run the next month the next year but thell do it again when things ant going its way. it may be your fault it jacked but the damage was done.

 

Im not trying to ridicule people but Iv done a fair bit of coursing in the past and if you run the odd hare when you see one on the lamp or keep rabbiting lurchers i dont think you should stick the boot in so easily.

 

you say you are an experienced coursing man but yet you didn't condone running an 11 month old SAPLING on any type of hare corse... this age of dog shouldn't be let loose in an area where hare is present for fear they will follow one and chances are will end up causing irreversible damage to vital organs. crazy.... instead you state that this person wasn't supposed to know the course was going to be as long..... again this dog shouldn't have been off the lead..who can ever guarentee how long or short a course will will be once a hare has ground under him i agree...... reguardless its total lack of disipline and respect for the dog to let such a thing happen. men from bygone years will always say its the one sure fine way to destroy a young dog, giving it a hard run/hare too young. this dog will prob have respiratory problems from here on in.

As a lurcher man you have to judge every dog as an individual.

j.j won the forley cup at 16 months of age you cant tell me hed only been coursing a month or so to be kill every hare that got up infront of him.

my own old bitch penny was born in november and by the next christmas she was killing hares single handed in big feilds. I never hammered her with loads of runs that year but by the following christmas she was knocking 3 over most times out. but shes dead and gone so thats all history now.

 

But I can 1 million percent tell you that if an un injured dog JACKS he will do it again FACT.

If you want to kid yourself and keep him to show you up again thats your choice but show you up he will.

 

 

firstly he didn't say the dog jacked, your missing the point, the dog is 11 months and possible got a five min hard run...how can anyone jump in and say yea the dog jacked and yea he's a dead loss and will def do it again... Bo***x in my opinion. im all for culling a dog that is not cutting the mustard or even a moderate dog that tries his best all the time but just not good enough. before that decision is made id at least wait untill the dog is mature and has had sufficient chance before you can properly say he's not the real deal. the dog is obviously gamey to stay on a course for 5mins with very little experience under his belt (remember 11 months old so work it out) so he obviously has some sort of potential. after puttin 11 month worth of time and grub into a pup i wouldn't mind holdin onto him for another few months to make sure, after all your judging a dog that simply burned himself out. you tell everyone about your terrier that jacked, i keep a lot of terriers, rear them from pups and enter them correctly, and thats only when there of the right age which this lurcher was not, ive yet to see one that goes into an earth and works 100% on there first attempt or second for that matter. so if a young terrier leaves a hole after having only been in once or twice before and got a hard time this time can you say that its a jacker and you'd cull it..... if so i tink you mite have jumped the gun on the one last week!

so from my experience of dogs and reading your comments you cant tell me 1 million percent anything im afraid. and im kidding nobody by saying give a PUP a chance.

Edited March 2, 2011 by fox digger

[baldockbanks courser 598]

YES HE DID SAY THE DOG JACKED ! ! !

 

" my mates 11 month old pup " PULLED up " on a stinger of a run" ! did you not read the topic title ?????

if thats not jacking what is.

 

And im not going into what happened with my terreir on here to someone I dont know but shes over 3 year old had plenty of chances Iv tried every way to get her to do her job. I only started her after she was 2 and a half. they dont all work.

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that word jacker such a horrid descrition for a dog,,, but if we must use it,,,, to me its a dog that wont run any game,,, just stands and watches it run off.

 

but diffrent types of crosses have difrent amounts of staminar, pure and simmple. some are speed merchants and burn up quik,,, i should no i got 2 here

 

but give em a rest and theyl run again,, ok they wont suit evryone, but they still have somthing to offer... just not if your running hares on big land,, where you need alot more.

 

lets be honest if this pup did run 5 mins, and it was a genuin 5 mins, ile have the f****r

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lets be honest if this pup did run 5 mins, and it was a genuin 5 mins, ile have the f****r

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lets be honest if this pup did run 5 mins, and it was a genuin 5 mins, ile have the f****r

 

 

Me too...

[riohog 5,701]

lets be honest if this pup did run 5 mins, and it was a genuin 5 mins, ile have the f****r

 

 

Me too...

 

 

lol best not give the pup to much credit the bloody dog will be up for stud on hear next!!!

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work the fens every day for many years now do.s not mean i no it all. 2 say coz u run the fens gives the right to comment on it theres to many factors in a dog jacking .coz someone runs the fens doesent mean your an exspert on it its nothing to do with coursing its the other factors involed.