BULL XES

[Tusker 28]

I love the disbelif as some struggle to imagine a dog capable of killin a bunch of foxes in a short time ffs

G'day mate, you made me laugh! Not everyone has dogs in the same league as yours!

 

All the best

 

Tusker

[bird 9,872]

You guys are over the seas and no attack intended but the quality of the bull is in question. I am in the USA and I am a apbt man my whole life until I fell into these staghounds, lurchers or whatever cross it might be. I am seriously considering this breeding of cross but the quality of the bull blood used here in the issue. I have had good and bad in the bull blood and takes a certain style of dog to be cross bred. These guys wanting these over sized heads and attributes of aggression is not a representive of the bull blood like it should be. The reason the bull blood is still alive is because of heart, terriers are the biggest pains in the arsse ever! No doubt and I see this very easily in the two bloods I run and run them pure as can be, long lines of linebreeding to create perfection, I promise it is perfection. One line is intelligent, docile and extremly gamey heart for days and consistent. The other line is just full of brut stupid strength with low percentages of heart but when they are good animals they are good animals. I have used both to hunt, the first of the two performs with instinct and the second is just looking to kill anything that moves. When I go to breed bull into my stags or lurchers you can guess the one I will use. I can't imagine some of the problems I have read and can imagine with a cross of an inferior bull blood cross. It is the quality of the dog that really means more to these crosses. I give my word there is really smart quality blood out there just not seen that well and mean no offense to anyone, you guys blow us out of the water with your crosses, I am here to learn from you a 100% but the bull blood my country has it on lock, tons of idiots with a few sprinkles of true dogmen. I wish I could send my dogs to you guys working this cross right and send me some dogs back from the cross, now that would be a cross to brag on. These dogs are worth their weight in gold I have seen them hurt, tired and go back for more if it is to please their owner, we use to these dogs to hunt in packs on hogs and when the dogs are of sound mind and quality their heart can't be matched by any breed on earth. There is more to these dogs than mouth, that no quit attitude is what makes them special, the green horns are what make them inferior to the quality of adding mouth to the cross, heart is what I want and mouth follows it; it means to please their master they will get it and die doing it for you. I hope to one day perfect this cross as a line of consistent of dogs that have sight, physique, speed, wind, heart and most of all intelligence to out smart the game.

 

 

good thread, i suppose like any dog you get good+bad animals, and some lines are better than others. And with bulldogs as you say were bred to game in the pit, but friendly with man. So really any dog that xs that line and bites a human, is no good to man and more so a bulldog or a bullxgrey with there power+ tenacity. And regards Stags, i think they would be great type of dog for the work that bullxgreys do in this country. And what ive read about these dogs, they seem to have very good temps, like alot of long dogs have. And if they can kill 30-40lb yotes, they would piss over a 19lb dog fox or anything bigger .?? Maybe its the way to go in the future and breed a stag type of dog, with some of the right type of bull line the mix. I like bullxgreys i am on my 3rd one Tod 3/8 bull 5/8 grey, 24 1/2 in 67lb 6 month old big pup lol. But it does seem to me that when it does go wrong, and any dog can go bad, and it does appear to happen more with some bullxs than otherxs. As i said maybe a change of breed =type of dog, might be needed to stop some of there (issue's) that crop up to often in these x

[watchman 256]

It can happen sam, pre-ban i know several lads were taking well over 100 foxes a season, plus other quarry every season and thats were the bull comes into its own imo.....

cheers lad would like to see some of thee crosses.went out with a friend of mine this season.he had "top bull lines"

or so he said.in 8 weeks his dog took close to 30 fox he said.on the firt couple of nights his dog done well taking a couple of fox.on the 5th night out that it jacked!!(it wansnt 5 nights on the trot but in a 2 week period)

i cant see how a dog can keep taking punishment and keep going and going!

ps surely bullx, should be doing it single handed as my rabbit dogs does them doubled up!

 

Thats just it sam, dogs do quit/spew/jack, not all bull crosses were/are where its still legal capable of big numbers REGULARLY BUT imo only bull crosses are/were capable of doing it on a regular basis, thats why the lads that are devoted to them love them. One lad i know had 17 in one night in 2002 i think iy was, with two dogs taking turns and 4 the following night with the same dogs. As with any cross, there are bull crosses and BULL CROSSES

[Tusker 28]

Stags are just old school mongralised longdogs, with roots to UK. You guys dont need to consider foreign blood, you have it all here already. I haven't been in the UK long, but Ive seen dogs that are capable at their jobs here and you couldnt ask for more than that, right? A good bull cross would last longer than any stag for dangerous game on a regular basis.

 

All the best

 

Tusker

[bird 9,872]

Stags are just old school mongralised longdogs, with roots to UK. You guys dont need to consider foreign blood, you have it all here already. I haven't been in the UK long, but Ive seen dogs that are capable at their jobs here and you couldnt ask for more than that, right? A good bull cross would last longer than any stag for dangerous game on a regular basis.

 

All the best

 

Tusker

 

 

you right mate regards the work of the bullx , but what i was saying is some of the bullxs temps, might not be as good as the temps of the stags regards dogs+people. I dont think ive ever heard of bad temps in long dogs like you hear in some bullx lines.As i said any dog can go bad, but some seem to more than others.?

[Tusker 28]

Stags are just old school mongralised longdogs, with roots to UK. You guys dont need to consider foreign blood, you have it all here already. I haven't been in the UK long, but Ive seen dogs that are capable at their jobs here and you couldnt ask for more than that, right? A good bull cross would last longer than any stag for dangerous game on a regular basis.

 

All the best

 

Tusker

 

 

you right mate regards the work of the bullx , but what i was saying is some of the bullxs temps, might not be as good as the temps of the stags regards dogs+people. I dont think ive ever heard of bad temps in long dogs like you hear in some bullx lines.As i said any dog can go bad, but some seem to more than others.?

A bad dog is a bad dog and should be culled, breding should take temperament into account to reduce the chance of these occuring. Some of the steadiest dogs ive seen were pure pitbulls thats the gods honest truth mate.

Ive also seen stags and many oher dogs that have killed small dogs and fight regularly, bullet jobs in my opinion regardless of breed. A GOOD bull cross takes a lot of beating regarding sound temperament, its a shame the bad stories seem to rule the roost here. Again it comes down to breeding a good line to get what you want, best to the best and all that jazz

 

All the best

 

Tusker

[Guest blitz]

Stags are just old school mongralised longdogs, with roots to UK. You guys dont need to consider foreign blood, you have it all here already. I haven't been in the UK long, but Ive seen dogs that are capable at their jobs here and you couldnt ask for more than that, right? A good bull cross would last longer than any stag for dangerous game on a regular basis.

 

All the best

 

Tusker

 

 

you right mate regards the work of the bullx , but what i was saying is some of the bullxs temps, might not be as good as the temps of the stags regards dogs+people. I dont think ive ever heard of bad temps in long dogs like you hear in some bullx lines.As i said any dog can go bad, but some seem to more than others.?

as i stated breed of shite get shite ,some people breed of kinked bulls and get kinked blood in there lines .But i have seen a half cross collie that was f****n insane.would bite you as soon as it looked at you.it even had the lads misses while she fed it ,now this guy was a well respected man round our way and he keeped this dog and even bred off it and its son was just as bad.even deerhounds or deerhound xes have a dark side.as they say it takes a long time to get a good line of dogs and it only takes 1 idiot to f**k it.theres people out there who would ruin lassy......

[bird 9,872]

Stags are just old school mongralised longdogs, with roots to UK. You guys dont need to consider foreign blood, you have it all here already. I haven't been in the UK long, but Ive seen dogs that are capable at their jobs here and you couldnt ask for more than that, right? A good bull cross would last longer than any stag for dangerous game on a regular basis.

 

All the best

 

Tusker

 

 

you right mate regards the work of the bullx , but what i was saying is some of the bullxs temps, might not be as good as the temps of the stags regards dogs+people. I dont think ive ever heard of bad temps in long dogs like you hear in some bullx lines.As i said any dog can go bad, but some seem to more than others.?

A bad dog is a bad dog and should be culled, breding should take temperament into account to reduce the chance of these occuring. Some of the steadiest dogs ive seen were pure pitbulls thats the gods honest truth mate.

Ive also seen stags and many oher dogs that have killed small dogs and fight regularly, bullet jobs in my opinion regardless of breed. A GOOD bull cross takes a lot of beating regarding sound temperament, its a shame the bad stories seem to rule the roost here. Again it comes down to breeding a good line to get what you want, best to the best and all that jazz

 

All the best

 

Tusker

 

 

 

[Guest blitz]

Stags are just old school mongralised longdogs, with roots to UK. You guys dont need to consider foreign blood, you have it all here already. I haven't been in the UK long, but Ive seen dogs that are capable at their jobs here and you couldnt ask for more than that, right? A good bull cross would last longer than any stag for dangerous game on a regular basis.

 

All the best

 

Tusker

 

 

you right mate regards the work of the bullx , but what i was saying is some of the bullxs temps, might not be as good as the temps of the stags regards dogs+people. I dont think ive ever heard of bad temps in long dogs like you hear in some bullx lines.As i said any dog can go bad, but some seem to more than others.?

A bad dog is a bad dog and should be culled, breding should take temperament into account to reduce the chance of these occuring. Some of the steadiest dogs ive seen were pure pitbulls thats the gods honest truth mate.

Ive also seen stags and many oher dogs that have killed small dogs and fight regularly, bullet jobs in my opinion regardless of breed. A GOOD bull cross takes a lot of beating regarding sound temperament, its a shame the bad stories seem to rule the roost here. Again it comes down to breeding a good line to get what you want, best to the best and all that jazz

 

All the best

 

Tusker

:thumbs:

[BULLRUNNER 7]

How many lurchers had you had before you decided on a bull x?

 

None!

 

How long had you been into hunting before you got him?

Used to go out with others on and off for 30 years, lamping, shooting etc.

Had you any experience with this x?

 

No, just the Bull type

 

It was probably down to you not the dog why it turned out like it did,and it was probably deffo your fault ye missus left you not the dogs haha bullx lurchers are not for the inexperienced

 

I'd say it was probably 50/50, the combination of an extremely high drive dog, and me having made my stand at home to get him, I gave him the benefit of the doubt where I should have been ruthless when he first bit me, and he did bite hard!

 

 

 

I'm not inexperienced around dogs by any means, but this was no ordinary dog!

You don't fit the criteria mate,and you're right bullx are no ordinary dog,going hunting with people with bullx is no reason to get one yeself,my daughter has been hunting with them but she's never gonna be able to work one herself,you only learn by mistakes though mate, maybe next time you will know wat to expect,some people treat them like fishing rods,stick them in the shed,get them out weekends,stick them back in the shed, you can't do this with a bullx you need to keep on top of them before they get on top of you, they need to work regular then you have the perfect workmate,anyone thinking of getting one put as much as you can into it when it's really young ,socialise them as much as possible you only get wat you put into it as the saying goes

 

 

I don't know if that's meant to, but your reply does sound a bit patronising.

 

I wouldn't really compare my attitude, temperament, or physical size or behaviour to that of a female, I'm hard with my dogs, they know who is boss.

 

I bought the pup on impulse, and having made my bed, did my very best to lie in it, it wasn't exactly a popular decision with my now ex, but that made me all the more determined to keep him, the way I saw it is that I was 44 years old, put a lot into the family so if I wanted another dog then I was sure as fook having one.

The dog lived in the house, was impeccably well mannered around people and children, he was extremely well socialised.

 

A gentle giant ................. until the red mist came, and when it did, I would defy anyone to control him.

 

I didn't know at the time I bought him, but he turned out to be as well bred as any around, and maybe that was the problem, like I said too much dog for any normal person.

 

With hindsight, I shouldn't have got him at 5 months old, but I did. And it's no reflection on the bloke who had him before me.

 

It was his enormous prey drive, pure and simple, nothing would stop him, and that was his downfall, when he wanted to get out not much would stop him, maybe he needed to be outside in a run, but that's not how I keep my dogs.

 

Maybe it was because I moved out and he became the only dog that changed things, but he'd bitten me twice before that.

 

Maybe it was after his collapse and very very near death, once he couldn't run properly without wheezing and being knackered after a few minutes, that he couldn't settle as a "pet".

 

When he did work, he was awesome.

 

"Boss Hog", I've a feeling you may know the breeding behind this dog, and again it was no reflection on that which had gone before, in fact maybe in a controlled, multi dog environment he'd have excelled, well either that, or killed every fu.cking living thing in his sight ..............

 

"Jimmy 100", He was the real deal, no crossbred shite for sure.

 

There's no answers I don't think, I wish he'd never become my problem though, that's for certain!

Don't know wat you mean patronizing mate,I'm just saying you shouldn't go out and get a bullx just because you seen or went out with one,you say you hadn't even had a lurcher before, that would of been a education for you first,I suppose the dogs you had had plenty of experience with wer bulls,did you wear a sovereign ring and a sheepskin coat haha you just sound like the so called stereotypical bullx owner of today continua sly being slagged of on thl that's why so many bullx r wank,people taking them on who haven't got a clue about hunting with dogs.as for socialising your bullx it should be done straight away as much as possible at a really young age.take them out with other dogs as many as you can to get them used to it all,jmo.

I did! I went out with a good friend of mine for about a year with his dog Todd,watched him work and decided I wanted to get one,my mate Dickie had just got a bitch pup and I had the chance to get her brother so I did. This was my 1st lurcher but have been round dogs all my life and already had a staffie that was at this time around 10. Charlie learnt everything from Todd with his sister Cady and he is an excellent all rounder to me and does all I want from him.....I didn't want any other type of lurcher and had been out with others before I made the choice what type to get.To me a dogs for life not just to sell on at some point,does this make me an idiot though for going out and getting a bullx as my 1st lurcher as I cant see how? he's good round live stock,ferrets,kids and other dogs aslong as they are ok with him lol,he saved my brothers jack russel the other day from a Rottweiler that was going to eat it!. Point I am getting at is I dont think people should be put down if they choose to get a bull x as a 1st lurcher I may be one of the lucky ones as I think it was the best choice I ever made getting mine and wouldnt want any other breed

[Red Collar 28]

How many lurchers had you had before you decided on a bull x?

 

None!

 

How long had you been into hunting before you got him?

Used to go out with others on and off for 30 years, lamping, shooting etc.

Had you any experience with this x?

 

No, just the Bull type

 

It was probably down to you not the dog why it turned out like it did,and it was probably deffo your fault ye missus left you not the dogs haha bullx lurchers are not for the inexperienced

 

I'd say it was probably 50/50, the combination of an extremely high drive dog, and me having made my stand at home to get him, I gave him the benefit of the doubt where I should have been ruthless when he first bit me, and he did bite hard!

 

 

 

I'm not inexperienced around dogs by any means, but this was no ordinary dog!

You don't fit the criteria mate,and you're right bullx are no ordinary dog,going hunting with people with bullx is no reason to get one yeself,my daughter has been hunting with them but she's never gonna be able to work one herself,you only learn by mistakes though mate, maybe next time you will know wat to expect,some people treat them like fishing rods,stick them in the shed,get them out weekends,stick them back in the shed, you can't do this with a bullx you need to keep on top of them before they get on top of you, they need to work regular then you have the perfect workmate,anyone thinking of getting one put as much as you can into it when it's really young ,socialise them as much as possible you only get wat you put into it as the saying goes

 

 

I don't know if that's meant to, but your reply does sound a bit patronising.

 

I wouldn't really compare my attitude, temperament, or physical size or behaviour to that of a female, I'm hard with my dogs, they know who is boss.

 

I bought the pup on impulse, and having made my bed, did my very best to lie in it, it wasn't exactly a popular decision with my now ex, but that made me all the more determined to keep him, the way I saw it is that I was 44 years old, put a lot into the family so if I wanted another dog then I was sure as fook having one.

The dog lived in the house, was impeccably well mannered around people and children, he was extremely well socialised.

 

A gentle giant ................. until the red mist came, and when it did, I would defy anyone to control him.

 

I didn't know at the time I bought him, but he turned out to be as well bred as any around, and maybe that was the problem, like I said too much dog for any normal person.

 

With hindsight, I shouldn't have got him at 5 months old, but I did. And it's no reflection on the bloke who had him before me.

 

It was his enormous prey drive, pure and simple, nothing would stop him, and that was his downfall, when he wanted to get out not much would stop him, maybe he needed to be outside in a run, but that's not how I keep my dogs.

 

Maybe it was because I moved out and he became the only dog that changed things, but he'd bitten me twice before that.

 

Maybe it was after his collapse and very very near death, once he couldn't run properly without wheezing and being knackered after a few minutes, that he couldn't settle as a "pet".

 

When he did work, he was awesome.

 

"Boss Hog", I've a feeling you may know the breeding behind this dog, and again it was no reflection on that which had gone before, in fact maybe in a controlled, multi dog environment he'd have excelled, well either that, or killed every fu.cking living thing in his sight ..............

 

"Jimmy 100", He was the real deal, no crossbred shite for sure.

 

There's no answers I don't think, I wish he'd never become my problem though, that's for certain!

Don't know wat you mean patronizing mate,I'm just saying you shouldn't go out and get a bullx just because you seen or went out with one,you say you hadn't even had a lurcher before, that would of been a education for you first,I suppose the dogs you had had plenty of experience with wer bulls,did you wear a sovereign ring and a sheepskin coat haha you just sound like the so called stereotypical bullx owner of today continua sly being slagged of on thl that's why so many bullx r wank,people taking them on who haven't got a clue about hunting with dogs.as for socialising your bullx it should be done straight away as much as possible at a really young age.take them out with other dogs as many as you can to get them used to it all,jmo.

I did! I went out with a good friend of mine for about a year with his dog Todd,watched him work and decided I wanted to get one,my mate Dickie had just got a bitch pup and I had the chance to get her brother so I did. This was my 1st lurcher but have been round dogs all my life and already had a staffie that was at this time around 10. Charlie learnt everything from Todd with his sister Cady and he is an excellent all rounder to me and does all I want from him.....I didn't want any other type of lurcher and had been out with others before I made the choice what type to get.To me a dogs for life not just to sell on at some point,does this make me an idiot though for going out and getting a bullx as my 1st lurcher as I cant see how? he's good round live stock,ferrets,kids and other dogs aslong as they are ok with him lol,he saved my brothers jack russel the other day from a Rottweiler that was going to eat it!. Point I am getting at is I dont think people should be put down if they choose to get a bull x as a 1st lurcher I may be one of the lucky ones as I think it was the best choice I ever made getting mine and wouldnt want any other breed

You obviously have a friend helping you out ,is Todd a bullx? Anybody who takes on a bullx first dog is an idiot in my book or a wannabe, a wannabe just like my mate who's got a bullx,most shit head bullx are trained by people like this ,that's why they have bad name not coz of the dogs breed coz of the people bringing them on and especially those who can't stop talking about there bullx ,you are lucky mate or got yeself a bit of an education by going out with ye mates first,also why is it ex staff or pit owners who choose this type? Oh ye to look good haha good luck anyway mate hope you keep it up, not like half the lads who dump or pass them on.red.

[jimmy100 48]

How many lurchers had you had before you decided on a bull x?

 

None!

 

How long had you been into hunting before you got him?

Used to go out with others on and off for 30 years, lamping, shooting etc.

Had you any experience with this x?

 

No, just the Bull type

 

It was probably down to you not the dog why it turned out like it did,and it was probably deffo your fault ye missus left you not the dogs haha bullx lurchers are not for the inexperienced

 

I'd say it was probably 50/50, the combination of an extremely high drive dog, and me having made my stand at home to get him, I gave him the benefit of the doubt where I should have been ruthless when he first bit me, and he did bite hard!

 

 

 

I'm not inexperienced around dogs by any means, but this was no ordinary dog!

You don't fit the criteria mate,and you're right bullx are no ordinary dog,going hunting with people with bullx is no reason to get one yeself,my daughter has been hunting with them but she's never gonna be able to work one herself,you only learn by mistakes though mate, maybe next time you will know wat to expect,some people treat them like fishing rods,stick them in the shed,get them out weekends,stick them back in the shed, you can't do this with a bullx you need to keep on top of them before they get on top of you, they need to work regular then you have the perfect workmate,anyone thinking of getting one put as much as you can into it when it's really young ,socialise them as much as possible you only get wat you put into it as the saying goes

 

 

I don't know if that's meant to, but your reply does sound a bit patronising.

 

I wouldn't really compare my attitude, temperament, or physical size or behaviour to that of a female, I'm hard with my dogs, they know who is boss.

 

I bought the pup on impulse, and having made my bed, did my very best to lie in it, it wasn't exactly a popular decision with my now ex, but that made me all the more determined to keep him, the way I saw it is that I was 44 years old, put a lot into the family so if I wanted another dog then I was sure as fook having one.

The dog lived in the house, was impeccably well mannered around people and children, he was extremely well socialised.

 

A gentle giant ................. until the red mist came, and when it did, I would defy anyone to control him.

 

I didn't know at the time I bought him, but he turned out to be as well bred as any around, and maybe that was the problem, like I said too much dog for any normal person.

 

With hindsight, I shouldn't have got him at 5 months old, but I did. And it's no reflection on the bloke who had him before me.

 

It was his enormous prey drive, pure and simple, nothing would stop him, and that was his downfall, when he wanted to get out not much would stop him, maybe he needed to be outside in a run, but that's not how I keep my dogs.

 

Maybe it was because I moved out and he became the only dog that changed things, but he'd bitten me twice before that.

 

Maybe it was after his collapse and very very near death, once he couldn't run properly without wheezing and being knackered after a few minutes, that he couldn't settle as a "pet".

 

When he did work, he was awesome.

 

"Boss Hog", I've a feeling you may know the breeding behind this dog, and again it was no reflection on that which had gone before, in fact maybe in a controlled, multi dog environment he'd have excelled, well either that, or killed every fu.cking living thing in his sight ..............

 

"Jimmy 100", He was the real deal, no crossbred shite for sure.

 

There's no answers I don't think, I wish he'd never become my problem though, that's for certain!

Don't know wat you mean patronizing mate,I'm just saying you shouldn't go out and get a bullx just because you seen or went out with one,you say you hadn't even had a lurcher before, that would of been a education for you first,I suppose the dogs you had had plenty of experience with wer bulls,did you wear a sovereign ring and a sheepskin coat haha you just sound like the so called stereotypical bullx owner of today continua sly being slagged of on thl that's why so many bullx r wank,people taking them on who haven't got a clue about hunting with dogs.as for socialising your bullx it should be done straight away as much as possible at a really young age.take them out with other dogs as many as you can to get them used to it all,jmo.

I did! I went out with a good friend of mine for about a year with his dog Todd,watched him work and decided I wanted to get one,my mate Dickie had just got a bitch pup and I had the chance to get her brother so I did. This was my 1st lurcher but have been round dogs all my life and already had a staffie that was at this time around 10. Charlie learnt everything from Todd with his sister Cady and he is an excellent all rounder to me and does all I want from him.....I didn't want any other type of lurcher and had been out with others before I made the choice what type to get.To me a dogs for life not just to sell on at some point,does this make me an idiot though for going out and getting a bullx as my 1st lurcher as I cant see how? he's good round live stock,ferrets,kids and other dogs aslong as they are ok with him lol,he saved my brothers jack russel the other day from a Rottweiler that was going to eat it!. Point I am getting at is I dont think people should be put down if they choose to get a bull x as a 1st lurcher I may be one of the lucky ones as I think it was the best choice I ever made getting mine and wouldnt want any other breed

nice dog fella

[jimmy100 48]

the idiots breeding of untested stock are to blame for all the shit about

[BULLRUNNER 7]

How many lurchers had you had before you decided on a bull x?

 

None!

 

How long had you been into hunting before you got him?

Used to go out with others on and off for 30 years, lamping, shooting etc.

Had you any experience with this x?

 

No, just the Bull type

 

It was probably down to you not the dog why it turned out like it did,and it was probably deffo your fault ye missus left you not the dogs haha bullx lurchers are not for the inexperienced

 

I'd say it was probably 50/50, the combination of an extremely high drive dog, and me having made my stand at home to get him, I gave him the benefit of the doubt where I should have been ruthless when he first bit me, and he did bite hard!

 

 

 

I'm not inexperienced around dogs by any means, but this was no ordinary dog!

You don't fit the criteria mate,and you're right bullx are no ordinary dog,going hunting with people with bullx is no reason to get one yeself,my daughter has been hunting with them but she's never gonna be able to work one herself,you only learn by mistakes though mate, maybe next time you will know wat to expect,some people treat them like fishing rods,stick them in the shed,get them out weekends,stick them back in the shed, you can't do this with a bullx you need to keep on top of them before they get on top of you, they need to work regular then you have the perfect workmate,anyone thinking of getting one put as much as you can into it when it's really young ,socialise them as much as possible you only get wat you put into it as the saying goes

 

 

I don't know if that's meant to, but your reply does sound a bit patronising.

 

I wouldn't really compare my attitude, temperament, or physical size or behaviour to that of a female, I'm hard with my dogs, they know who is boss.

 

I bought the pup on impulse, and having made my bed, did my very best to lie in it, it wasn't exactly a popular decision with my now ex, but that made me all the more determined to keep him, the way I saw it is that I was 44 years old, put a lot into the family so if I wanted another dog then I was sure as fook having one.

The dog lived in the house, was impeccably well mannered around people and children, he was extremely well socialised.

 

A gentle giant ................. until the red mist came, and when it did, I would defy anyone to control him.

 

I didn't know at the time I bought him, but he turned out to be as well bred as any around, and maybe that was the problem, like I said too much dog for any normal person.

 

With hindsight, I shouldn't have got him at 5 months old, but I did. And it's no reflection on the bloke who had him before me.

 

It was his enormous prey drive, pure and simple, nothing would stop him, and that was his downfall, when he wanted to get out not much would stop him, maybe he needed to be outside in a run, but that's not how I keep my dogs.

 

Maybe it was because I moved out and he became the only dog that changed things, but he'd bitten me twice before that.

 

Maybe it was after his collapse and very very near death, once he couldn't run properly without wheezing and being knackered after a few minutes, that he couldn't settle as a "pet".

 

When he did work, he was awesome.

 

"Boss Hog", I've a feeling you may know the breeding behind this dog, and again it was no reflection on that which had gone before, in fact maybe in a controlled, multi dog environment he'd have excelled, well either that, or killed every fu.cking living thing in his sight ..............

 

"Jimmy 100", He was the real deal, no crossbred shite for sure.

 

There's no answers I don't think, I wish he'd never become my problem though, that's for certain!

Don't know wat you mean patronizing mate,I'm just saying you shouldn't go out and get a bullx just because you seen or went out with one,you say you hadn't even had a lurcher before, that would of been a education for you first,I suppose the dogs you had had plenty of experience with wer bulls,did you wear a sovereign ring and a sheepskin coat haha you just sound like the so called stereotypical bullx owner of today continua sly being slagged of on thl that's why so many bullx r wank,people taking them on who haven't got a clue about hunting with dogs.as for socialising your bullx it should be done straight away as much as possible at a really young age.take them out with other dogs as many as you can to get them used to it all,jmo.

I did! I went out with a good friend of mine for about a year with his dog Todd,watched him work and decided I wanted to get one,my mate Dickie had just got a bitch pup and I had the chance to get her brother so I did. This was my 1st lurcher but have been round dogs all my life and already had a staffie that was at this time around 10. Charlie learnt everything from Todd with his sister Cady and he is an excellent all rounder to me and does all I want from him.....I didn't want any other type of lurcher and had been out with others before I made the choice what type to get.To me a dogs for life not just to sell on at some point,does this make me an idiot though for going out and getting a bullx as my 1st lurcher as I cant see how? he's good round live stock,ferrets,kids and other dogs aslong as they are ok with him lol,he saved my brothers jack russel the other day from a Rottweiler that was going to eat it!. Point I am getting at is I dont think people should be put down if they choose to get a bull x as a 1st lurcher I may be one of the lucky ones as I think it was the best choice I ever made getting mine and wouldnt want any other breed

You obviously have a friend helping you out ,is Todd a bullx? Anybody who takes on a bullx first dog is an idiot in my book or a wannabe, a wannabe just like my mate who's got a bullx,most shit head bullx are trained by people like this ,that's why they have bad name not coz of the dogs breed coz of the people bringing them on and especially those who can't stop talking about there bullx ,you are lucky mate or got yeself a bit of an education by going out with ye mates first,also why is it ex staff or pit owners who choose this type? Oh ye to look good haha good luck anyway mate hope you keep it up, not like half the lads who dump or pass them on.red.

Todd was a bullx rip,so i'm an idiot AND a waanabe! Yes did have help isn't that what alot of people do? Whats wrong with talking about your dogs???? this is a forum isnt it where people talk about things and isn't this thread about dogs???? I agree alot get them as some sort of status symbol and never work them but thats upto them. And that bit about ex staff and pit owners getting the breed....maybe its because they have fond memories of some of the bull traits? I know I do. Dont like been labelled as an idiot tho.We all have to start somewhere dont we! and no one knows it all

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Cheers jimmy