BULL XES

[Red Collar 28]

How many lurchers had you had before you decided on a bull x?

 

None!

 

How long had you been into hunting before you got him?

Used to go out with others on and off for 30 years, lamping, shooting etc.

Had you any experience with this x?

 

No, just the Bull type

 

It was probably down to you not the dog why it turned out like it did,and it was probably deffo your fault ye missus left you not the dogs haha bullx lurchers are not for the inexperienced

 

I'd say it was probably 50/50, the combination of an extremely high drive dog, and me having made my stand at home to get him, I gave him the benefit of the doubt where I should have been ruthless when he first bit me, and he did bite hard!

 

 

 

I'm not inexperienced around dogs by any means, but this was no ordinary dog!

You don't fit the criteria mate,and you're right bullx are no ordinary dog,going hunting with people with bullx is no reason to get one yeself,my daughter has been hunting with them but she's never gonna be able to work one herself,you only learn by mistakes though mate, maybe next time you will know wat to expect,some people treat them like fishing rods,stick them in the shed,get them out weekends,stick them back in the shed, you can't do this with a bullx you need to keep on top of them before they get on top of you, they need to work regular then you have the perfect workmate,anyone thinking of getting one put as much as you can into it when it's really young ,socialise them as much as possible you only get wat you put into it as the saying goes

 

 

I don't know if that's meant to, but your reply does sound a bit patronising.

 

I wouldn't really compare my attitude, temperament, or physical size or behaviour to that of a female, I'm hard with my dogs, they know who is boss.

 

I bought the pup on impulse, and having made my bed, did my very best to lie in it, it wasn't exactly a popular decision with my now ex, but that made me all the more determined to keep him, the way I saw it is that I was 44 years old, put a lot into the family so if I wanted another dog then I was sure as fook having one.

The dog lived in the house, was impeccably well mannered around people and children, he was extremely well socialised.

 

A gentle giant ................. until the red mist came, and when it did, I would defy anyone to control him.

 

I didn't know at the time I bought him, but he turned out to be as well bred as any around, and maybe that was the problem, like I said too much dog for any normal person.

 

With hindsight, I shouldn't have got him at 5 months old, but I did. And it's no reflection on the bloke who had him before me.

 

It was his enormous prey drive, pure and simple, nothing would stop him, and that was his downfall, when he wanted to get out not much would stop him, maybe he needed to be outside in a run, but that's not how I keep my dogs.

 

Maybe it was because I moved out and he became the only dog that changed things, but he'd bitten me twice before that.

 

Maybe it was after his collapse and very very near death, once he couldn't run properly without wheezing and being knackered after a few minutes, that he couldn't settle as a "pet".

 

When he did work, he was awesome.

 

"Boss Hog", I've a feeling you may know the breeding behind this dog, and again it was no reflection on that which had gone before, in fact maybe in a controlled, multi dog environment he'd have excelled, well either that, or killed every fu.cking living thing in his sight ..............

 

"Jimmy 100", He was the real deal, no crossbred shite for sure.

 

There's no answers I don't think, I wish he'd never become my problem though, that's for certain!

Don't know wat you mean patronizing mate,I'm just saying you shouldn't go out and get a bullx just because you seen or went out with one,you say you hadn't even had a lurcher before, that would of been a education for you first,I suppose the dogs you had had plenty of experience with wer bulls,did you wear a sovereign ring and a sheepskin coat haha you just sound like the so called stereotypical bullx owner of today continua sly being slagged of on thl that's why so many bullx r wank,people taking them on who haven't got a clue about hunting with dogs.as for socialising your bullx it should be done straight away as much as possible at a really young age.take them out with other dogs as many as you can to get them used to it all,jmo.

 

 

Really?

 

I got no idea why you'd say that.

 

One of the first things I said was that I wasn't prepared to risk my liberty to give my dog the work it became obvious it needed, he didn't even come with a collar on, never mind a crystal ball to see how he was going to turn out.

 

I got him, I tried my very best to adapt to him and give him plenty of exercise and mental stimulation, like I said he was great, until he wasn't. He became a liability, so I ended him, the only decent thing that could be done, I could I suppose have put him on here for sale ..........

 

 

On a slightly different note, a general question .............. everyone makes a lot of the drive of the bull in the cross, I've got no experience at all of greyhounds, could it be that dodgy greyhound lines are messing them up? They only greyhounds I see being walked always wear a muzzle, is this because they are aggressive or to control their food intake? If it's because they can be naughty then isn't that an answer?

I ended him haha that's why ,you told me ye never had a lurcher that's why,get permission then you lessen the risk of losing your liberty,that's why, he never had a collar coz the fella who f****d it up in the first place thought you might make it one after he Palmed you off mate,keep it real strongn,red.

 

 

Listen to you eh Mr Know all.

 

Yep I had him killed, what was the alternative?

 

No one "palmed him off", you're insulting a real genuine bloke by saying that.

 

Permission????? Oh right, so having permission to be on the land makes all quarry legal does it?

 

Where you born having owned lurchers? How are you supposed to gain experience without owning one?

 

And more importantly ............... who are you to talk down to anyone? Another cyber mong on THL, there's a surprise!

Yes I was born with running dogs,you wer palmed off,permission makes it easier to hunt, fact,and the experiences of owning lurchers is a good start to then move onto bullx lurchers,and more importantly who are you calling mong ye f****n juicehead,you are the type who has got bullx bad name that's why you are getting loud coz I'm right your wrong, shit stuff,ive had lurchers forty years ok do ye homework if you want,I know through experience you know f**k all,I never said nothing out of order to you then you call me a cyber mong my twelve year old daughter knows more than you she's in it for the dogs not for money ok like her dad, me, now go jab yeself in the arse with watever ye flavour is this month, The jobs f****d when ye have people like you about.

[Strong Stuff 2,171]

How many lurchers had you had before you decided on a bull x?

 

None!

 

How long had you been into hunting before you got him?

Used to go out with others on and off for 30 years, lamping, shooting etc.

Had you any experience with this x?

 

No, just the Bull type

 

It was probably down to you not the dog why it turned out like it did,and it was probably deffo your fault ye missus left you not the dogs haha bullx lurchers are not for the inexperienced

 

I'd say it was probably 50/50, the combination of an extremely high drive dog, and me having made my stand at home to get him, I gave him the benefit of the doubt where I should have been ruthless when he first bit me, and he did bite hard!

 

 

 

I'm not inexperienced around dogs by any means, but this was no ordinary dog!

You don't fit the criteria mate,and you're right bullx are no ordinary dog,going hunting with people with bullx is no reason to get one yeself,my daughter has been hunting with them but she's never gonna be able to work one herself,you only learn by mistakes though mate, maybe next time you will know wat to expect,some people treat them like fishing rods,stick them in the shed,get them out weekends,stick them back in the shed, you can't do this with a bullx you need to keep on top of them before they get on top of you, they need to work regular then you have the perfect workmate,anyone thinking of getting one put as much as you can into it when it's really young ,socialise them as much as possible you only get wat you put into it as the saying goes

 

 

I don't know if that's meant to, but your reply does sound a bit patronising.

 

I wouldn't really compare my attitude, temperament, or physical size or behaviour to that of a female, I'm hard with my dogs, they know who is boss.

 

I bought the pup on impulse, and having made my bed, did my very best to lie in it, it wasn't exactly a popular decision with my now ex, but that made me all the more determined to keep him, the way I saw it is that I was 44 years old, put a lot into the family so if I wanted another dog then I was sure as fook having one.

The dog lived in the house, was impeccably well mannered around people and children, he was extremely well socialised.

 

A gentle giant ................. until the red mist came, and when it did, I would defy anyone to control him.

 

I didn't know at the time I bought him, but he turned out to be as well bred as any around, and maybe that was the problem, like I said too much dog for any normal person.

 

With hindsight, I shouldn't have got him at 5 months old, but I did. And it's no reflection on the bloke who had him before me.

 

It was his enormous prey drive, pure and simple, nothing would stop him, and that was his downfall, when he wanted to get out not much would stop him, maybe he needed to be outside in a run, but that's not how I keep my dogs.

 

Maybe it was because I moved out and he became the only dog that changed things, but he'd bitten me twice before that.

 

Maybe it was after his collapse and very very near death, once he couldn't run properly without wheezing and being knackered after a few minutes, that he couldn't settle as a "pet".

 

When he did work, he was awesome.

 

"Boss Hog", I've a feeling you may know the breeding behind this dog, and again it was no reflection on that which had gone before, in fact maybe in a controlled, multi dog environment he'd have excelled, well either that, or killed every fu.cking living thing in his sight ..............

 

"Jimmy 100", He was the real deal, no crossbred shite for sure.

 

There's no answers I don't think, I wish he'd never become my problem though, that's for certain!

Don't know wat you mean patronizing mate,I'm just saying you shouldn't go out and get a bullx just because you seen or went out with one,you say you hadn't even had a lurcher before, that would of been a education for you first,I suppose the dogs you had had plenty of experience with wer bulls,did you wear a sovereign ring and a sheepskin coat haha you just sound like the so called stereotypical bullx owner of today continua sly being slagged of on thl that's why so many bullx r wank,people taking them on who haven't got a clue about hunting with dogs.as for socialising your bullx it should be done straight away as much as possible at a really young age.take them out with other dogs as many as you can to get them used to it all,jmo.

 

 

Really?

 

I got no idea why you'd say that.

 

One of the first things I said was that I wasn't prepared to risk my liberty to give my dog the work it became obvious it needed, he didn't even come with a collar on, never mind a crystal ball to see how he was going to turn out.

 

I got him, I tried my very best to adapt to him and give him plenty of exercise and mental stimulation, like I said he was great, until he wasn't. He became a liability, so I ended him, the only decent thing that could be done, I could I suppose have put him on here for sale ..........

 

 

On a slightly different note, a general question .............. everyone makes a lot of the drive of the bull in the cross, I've got no experience at all of greyhounds, could it be that dodgy greyhound lines are messing them up? They only greyhounds I see being walked always wear a muzzle, is this because they are aggressive or to control their food intake? If it's because they can be naughty then isn't that an answer?

I ended him haha that's why ,you told me ye never had a lurcher that's why,get permission then you lessen the risk of losing your liberty,that's why, he never had a collar coz the fella who f****d it up in the first place thought you might make it one after he Palmed you off mate,keep it real strongn,red.

 

 

Listen to you eh Mr Know all.

 

Yep I had him killed, what was the alternative?

 

No one "palmed him off", you're insulting a real genuine bloke by saying that.

 

Permission????? Oh right, so having permission to be on the land makes all quarry legal does it?

 

Where you born having owned lurchers? How are you supposed to gain experience without owning one?

 

And more importantly ............... who are you to talk down to anyone? Another cyber mong on THL, there's a surprise!

Yes I was born with running dogs,you wer palmed off,permission makes it easier to hunt, fact,and the experiences of owning lurchers is a good start to then move onto bullx lurchers,and more importantly who are you calling mong ye f****n juicehead,you are the type who has got bullx bad name that's why you are getting loud coz I'm right your wrong, shit stuff,ive had lurchers forty years ok do ye homework if you want,I know through experience you know f**k all,I never said nothing out of order to you then you call me a cyber mong my twelve year old daughter knows more than you she's in it for the dogs not for money ok like her dad, me, now go jab yeself in the arse with watever ye flavour is this month, The jobs f****d when ye have people like you about.

 

Juice head? Have you seen me?

 

Seems it's you with the bad temper around here ............

 

Couldn't give a wank how long you've had them or how many you've had, who even mentioned money?

 

You sound like just the sort of bloke I'm glad not to know.

[lamping lurchers 34]

How many lurchers had you had before you decided on a bull x?

 

None!

 

How long had you been into hunting before you got him?

Used to go out with others on and off for 30 years, lamping, shooting etc.

Had you any experience with this x?

 

No, just the Bull type

 

It was probably down to you not the dog why it turned out like it did,and it was probably deffo your fault ye missus left you not the dogs haha bullx lurchers are not for the inexperienced

 

I'd say it was probably 50/50, the combination of an extremely high drive dog, and me having made my stand at home to get him, I gave him the benefit of the doubt where I should have been ruthless when he first bit me, and he did bite hard!

 

 

 

I'm not inexperienced around dogs by any means, but this was no ordinary dog!

You don't fit the criteria mate,and you're right bullx are no ordinary dog,going hunting with people with bullx is no reason to get one yeself,my daughter has been hunting with them but she's never gonna be able to work one herself,you only learn by mistakes though mate, maybe next time you will know wat to expect,some people treat them like fishing rods,stick them in the shed,get them out weekends,stick them back in the shed, you can't do this with a bullx you need to keep on top of them before they get on top of you, they need to work regular then you have the perfect workmate,anyone thinking of getting one put as much as you can into it when it's really young ,socialise them as much as possible you only get wat you put into it as the saying goes

 

 

I don't know if that's meant to, but your reply does sound a bit patronising.

 

I wouldn't really compare my attitude, temperament, or physical size or behaviour to that of a female, I'm hard with my dogs, they know who is boss.

 

I bought the pup on impulse, and having made my bed, did my very best to lie in it, it wasn't exactly a popular decision with my now ex, but that made me all the more determined to keep him, the way I saw it is that I was 44 years old, put a lot into the family so if I wanted another dog then I was sure as fook having one.

The dog lived in the house, was impeccably well mannered around people and children, he was extremely well socialised.

 

A gentle giant ................. until the red mist came, and when it did, I would defy anyone to control him.

 

I didn't know at the time I bought him, but he turned out to be as well bred as any around, and maybe that was the problem, like I said too much dog for any normal person.

 

With hindsight, I shouldn't have got him at 5 months old, but I did. And it's no reflection on the bloke who had him before me.

 

It was his enormous prey drive, pure and simple, nothing would stop him, and that was his downfall, when he wanted to get out not much would stop him, maybe he needed to be outside in a run, but that's not how I keep my dogs.

 

Maybe it was because I moved out and he became the only dog that changed things, but he'd bitten me twice before that.

 

Maybe it was after his collapse and very very near death, once he couldn't run properly without wheezing and being knackered after a few minutes, that he couldn't settle as a "pet".

 

When he did work, he was awesome.

 

"Boss Hog", I've a feeling you may know the breeding behind this dog, and again it was no reflection on that which had gone before, in fact maybe in a controlled, multi dog environment he'd have excelled, well either that, or killed every fu.cking living thing in his sight ..............

 

"Jimmy 100", He was the real deal, no crossbred shite for sure.

 

There's no answers I don't think, I wish he'd never become my problem though, that's for certain!

Don't know wat you mean patronizing mate,I'm just saying you shouldn't go out and get a bullx just because you seen or went out with one,you say you hadn't even had a lurcher before, that would of been a education for you first,I suppose the dogs you had had plenty of experience with wer bulls,did you wear a sovereign ring and a sheepskin coat haha you just sound like the so called stereotypical bullx owner of today continua sly being slagged of on thl that's why so many bullx r wank,people taking them on who haven't got a clue about hunting with dogs.as for socialising your bullx it should be done straight away as much as possible at a really young age.take them out with other dogs as many as you can to get them used to it all,jmo.

 

 

Really?

 

I got no idea why you'd say that.

 

One of the first things I said was that I wasn't prepared to risk my liberty to give my dog the work it became obvious it needed, he didn't even come with a collar on, never mind a crystal ball to see how he was going to turn out.

 

I got him, I tried my very best to adapt to him and give him plenty of exercise and mental stimulation, like I said he was great, until he wasn't. He became a liability, so I ended him, the only decent thing that could be done, I could I suppose have put him on here for sale ..........

 

 

On a slightly different note, a general question .............. everyone makes a lot of the drive of the bull in the cross, I've got no experience at all of greyhounds, could it be that dodgy greyhound lines are messing them up? They only greyhounds I see being walked always wear a muzzle, is this because they are aggressive or to control their food intake? If it's because they can be naughty then isn't that an answer?

I ended him haha that's why ,you told me ye never had a lurcher that's why,get permission then you lessen the risk of losing your liberty,that's why, he never had a collar coz the fella who f****d it up in the first place thought you might make it one after he Palmed you off mate,keep it real strongn,red.

 

 

Listen to you eh Mr Know all.

 

Yep I had him killed, what was the alternative?

 

No one "palmed him off", you're insulting a real genuine bloke by saying that.

 

Permission????? Oh right, so having permission to be on the land makes all quarry legal does it?

 

Where you born having owned lurchers? How are you supposed to gain experience without owning one?

 

And more importantly ............... who are you to talk down to anyone? Another cyber mong on THL, there's a surprise!

Yes I was born with running dogs,you wer palmed off,permission makes it easier to hunt, fact,and the experiences of owning lurchers is a good start to then move onto bullx lurchers,and more importantly who are you calling mong ye f****n juicehead,you are the type who has got bullx bad name that's why you are getting loud coz I'm right your wrong, shit stuff,ive had lurchers forty years ok do ye homework if you want,I know through experience you know f**k all,I never said nothing out of order to you then you call me a cyber mong my twelve year old daughter knows more than you she's in it for the dogs not for money ok like her dad, me, now go jab yeself in the arse with watever ye flavour is this month, The jobs f****d when ye have people like you about.

 

Juice head? Have you seen me?

 

Seems it's you with the bad temper around here ............

 

Couldn't give a wank how long you've had them or how many you've had, who even mentioned money?

 

You sound like just the sort of bloke I'm glad not to know.

 

 

 

 

 

 

here we go again a decient thread going to end up fecked, keep it to p.m s lads

[Red Collar 28]

How many lurchers had you had before you decided on a bull x?

 

None!

 

How long had you been into hunting before you got him?

Used to go out with others on and off for 30 years, lamping, shooting etc.

Had you any experience with this x?

 

No, just the Bull type

 

It was probably down to you not the dog why it turned out like it did,and it was probably deffo your fault ye missus left you not the dogs haha bullx lurchers are not for the inexperienced

 

I'd say it was probably 50/50, the combination of an extremely high drive dog, and me having made my stand at home to get him, I gave him the benefit of the doubt where I should have been ruthless when he first bit me, and he did bite hard!

 

 

 

I'm not inexperienced around dogs by any means, but this was no ordinary dog!

You don't fit the criteria mate,and you're right bullx are no ordinary dog,going hunting with people with bullx is no reason to get one yeself,my daughter has been hunting with them but she's never gonna be able to work one herself,you only learn by mistakes though mate, maybe next time you will know wat to expect,some people treat them like fishing rods,stick them in the shed,get them out weekends,stick them back in the shed, you can't do this with a bullx you need to keep on top of them before they get on top of you, they need to work regular then you have the perfect workmate,anyone thinking of getting one put as much as you can into it when it's really young ,socialise them as much as possible you only get wat you put into it as the saying goes

 

 

I don't know if that's meant to, but your reply does sound a bit patronising.

 

I wouldn't really compare my attitude, temperament, or physical size or behaviour to that of a female, I'm hard with my dogs, they know who is boss.

 

I bought the pup on impulse, and having made my bed, did my very best to lie in it, it wasn't exactly a popular decision with my now ex, but that made me all the more determined to keep him, the way I saw it is that I was 44 years old, put a lot into the family so if I wanted another dog then I was sure as fook having one.

The dog lived in the house, was impeccably well mannered around people and children, he was extremely well socialised.

 

A gentle giant ................. until the red mist came, and when it did, I would defy anyone to control him.

 

I didn't know at the time I bought him, but he turned out to be as well bred as any around, and maybe that was the problem, like I said too much dog for any normal person.

 

With hindsight, I shouldn't have got him at 5 months old, but I did. And it's no reflection on the bloke who had him before me.

 

It was his enormous prey drive, pure and simple, nothing would stop him, and that was his downfall, when he wanted to get out not much would stop him, maybe he needed to be outside in a run, but that's not how I keep my dogs.

 

Maybe it was because I moved out and he became the only dog that changed things, but he'd bitten me twice before that.

 

Maybe it was after his collapse and very very near death, once he couldn't run properly without wheezing and being knackered after a few minutes, that he couldn't settle as a "pet".

 

When he did work, he was awesome.

 

"Boss Hog", I've a feeling you may know the breeding behind this dog, and again it was no reflection on that which had gone before, in fact maybe in a controlled, multi dog environment he'd have excelled, well either that, or killed every fu.cking living thing in his sight ..............

 

"Jimmy 100", He was the real deal, no crossbred shite for sure.

 

There's no answers I don't think, I wish he'd never become my problem though, that's for certain!

Don't know wat you mean patronizing mate,I'm just saying you shouldn't go out and get a bullx just because you seen or went out with one,you say you hadn't even had a lurcher before, that would of been a education for you first,I suppose the dogs you had had plenty of experience with wer bulls,did you wear a sovereign ring and a sheepskin coat haha you just sound like the so called stereotypical bullx owner of today continua sly being slagged of on thl that's why so many bullx r wank,people taking them on who haven't got a clue about hunting with dogs.as for socialising your bullx it should be done straight away as much as possible at a really young age.take them out with other dogs as many as you can to get them used to it all,jmo.

 

 

Really?

 

I got no idea why you'd say that.

 

One of the first things I said was that I wasn't prepared to risk my liberty to give my dog the work it became obvious it needed, he didn't even come with a collar on, never mind a crystal ball to see how he was going to turn out.

 

I got him, I tried my very best to adapt to him and give him plenty of exercise and mental stimulation, like I said he was great, until he wasn't. He became a liability, so I ended him, the only decent thing that could be done, I could I suppose have put him on here for sale ..........

 

 

On a slightly different note, a general question .............. everyone makes a lot of the drive of the bull in the cross, I've got no experience at all of greyhounds, could it be that dodgy greyhound lines are messing them up? They only greyhounds I see being walked always wear a muzzle, is this because they are aggressive or to control their food intake? If it's because they can be naughty then isn't that an answer?

I ended him haha that's why ,you told me ye never had a lurcher that's why,get permission then you lessen the risk of losing your liberty,that's why, he never had a collar coz the fella who f****d it up in the first place thought you might make it one after he Palmed you off mate,keep it real strongn,red.

 

 

Listen to you eh Mr Know all.

 

Yep I had him killed, what was the alternative?

 

No one "palmed him off", you're insulting a real genuine bloke by saying that.

 

Permission????? Oh right, so having permission to be on the land makes all quarry legal does it?

 

Where you born having owned lurchers? How are you supposed to gain experience without owning one?

 

And more importantly ............... who are you to talk down to anyone? Another cyber mong on THL, there's a surprise!

Yes I was born with running dogs,you wer palmed off,permission makes it easier to hunt, fact,and the experiences of owning lurchers is a good start to then move onto bullx lurchers,and more importantly who are you calling mong ye f****n juicehead,you are the type who has got bullx bad name that's why you are getting loud coz I'm right your wrong, shit stuff,ive had lurchers forty years ok do ye homework if you want,I know through experience you know f**k all,I never said nothing out of order to you then you call me a cyber mong my twelve year old daughter knows more than you she's in it for the dogs not for money ok like her dad, me, now go jab yeself in the arse with watever ye flavour is this month, The jobs f****d when ye have people like you about.

 

Juice head? Have you seen me?

 

Seems it's you with the bad temper around here ............

 

Couldn't give a wank how long you've had them or how many you've had, who even mentioned money?

 

You sound like just the sort of bloke I'm glad not to know.

You see,it's all in writing for all to see,your the one hard with your dogs,I'm soft with mine ! like my dogs r soft with me,the bullx like most dogs picks up on this, like have you heard people say your dog ends up like you,same temperament same manners same attitude well it's dead right,if you spend enough time with your dog he'll soon be just like you,now most people who work their dogs spend a lot of time with them so their dogs soon learn to be like or wat their owners want them to be like.yours was like you mine r like me soft at home game as f**k in the field.some people r just not meant to work dogs,some r mate.you keep selling stuff and calling people names on the net.I'll keep working lurchers pal.good luck.red.

[JPTfellterrier 65]

I shall back strong stuff up here as a old friend of myne knows him very well and no one i have met has had a bad word to say about him. He does his best by every dog as i do. From what i can gauge the dog became out of hand and was PTS? If the dog is no good for a pet home and no good for working home what else is someone suposed to do with the animal

 

My lurcher is a royal pain in the arse she is a typical pig headed bullx through and through and i quite often have her muzzled as her prey drive is very high and she doesnt like men near me(any small dogs or even a great dane she will try and take on) i knew what i was getting in to when i got her as a pup as her mother is exactly the same. Do i wish sometimes i hadnt took on this task? Yes because my health (back problems) is getting worse and being yarked about occasionally when shes having a crazy day isnt great but like strong stuff did i have tryed to do the best by this dog as he did with his

[JPTfellterrier 65]

I've only had 1 .............

 

And he was a f.ucking nightmare!

 

To be fair he was far too much dog for a normal person, and a big mistake on my part was buying him not knowing what he was (I knew he was a Bull X obviously)

 

He attacked and bit me 3 times (all 3 times when out walking and he decided he wanted to try and kill other dogs) The first time was at 6 moths old, maybe I should have dealt with him then.

 

Everything was on the menu for him, sheep, horses, cows, terriers, and yes I have had dogs around me all my life and did try to break him to stock.

 

When he was in the house he was a pleasure to be with, an big soft dope, but as soon as he went out he switched on and that was that, a maniac and a liability.

 

I'll never have another, my nerves couldn't cope!

 

I'd be the first to admit that I made a mistake getting what turned out to be a "fast lane" dog, simply too much dog for general mooching, he needed to be out killing stuff all the time, and to be dead honest I wasn't prepared to risk my liberty taking him!

 

Dog is no longer, I could have passed him on, but he was already no good for serious work after he'd collapsed one night last year, I know now that I should have let him go then, but instead I spent £1300 getting him back ..............

 

 

 

That dog cost me a relationship, a home and an awful lot more.

 

We live and learn.

 

RIP Spike

 

just read this from the beginning, you learn from your mistakes, if you dont make them how can you learn from them?

 

although tilly doesnt have as much bull in her ive had incidents from when she was four month old and off the lead running off after a horse trying to grab its back thighs (quite funny now i look back at it), sheep, cows,terriers and as said above greatdanes were also on the menu and has tryed to have me twcie in the process, i spent alot of time studying dog phycology and got her 100% with horses,cows and sheep but dogs are still very very much 50/50,she was spot on for about 9 month (even helping other dogs with social issues) then shes just switched back to her old ways recently for some reason. I could never run her with anouther dog accept for her mother. As strong stuff did, we have both chose our beds and done our best to lie in them.

[jimmy100 48]

Prey drive has nothing to do with a dog being a twat around other dogs. Dogs dont hunt other dogs they fight them as there their own kind and send of signals in there head completly different than a fox or deer would just think how many top class bull crosses there are that work with other dogs regular throughout the season but never fight with them! These dogs have massive prey drive but never fight so what does that tell you? I would agree about greyhounds passing it on tho some are the worst dogs ever for fighting. But its not prey drive it just being brought up wrong and not being taught manners from day one!

[Strong Stuff 2,171]

 

You see,it's all in writing for all to see,your the one hard with your dogs,I'm soft with mine ! like my dogs r soft with me,the bullx like most dogs picks up on this, like have you heard people say your dog ends up like you,same temperament same manners same attitude well it's dead right,if you spend enough time with your dog he'll soon be just like you,now most people who work their dogs spend a lot of time with them so their dogs soon learn to be like or wat their owners want them to be like.yours was like you mine r like me soft at home game as f**k in the field.some people r just not meant to work dogs,some r mate.you keep selling stuff and calling people names on the net.I'll keep working lurchers pal.good luck.red.

 

I meant hard as in disciplined, I didn't mean hard as in thinking I'm anything special, honestly this has gone well wrong, have just looked at your profile, there's a couple of lads we have as mutual friends, you don't know me, nor I you, like you said to me earlier, ask around about me, there's no ego involved where me or my dogs are concerned.

 

I noticed this you posted a few weeks ago ................

 

Posted 23 January 2011 - 05:03 PM

 

In my opinion dogmen don't half hold a grudge? Something they seen you do or heard someone say in the past,I just seem to let things go and hope the people involved learn from whatever u didn't like or see. All hunting people start somewhere,they have to learn,some never do,some do bad things on there way,but time and experience can put that right,do you hold grudges? Some of my good mates r the worst for it haha they always bring shit up about so an so when he did that or this haha sometimes it best t say ye bit then forget.

 

After your replies on here tonight, that makes it look like a contradiction.

 

I did ask a question you didn't answer though:

 

If I'd had permission to be on a certain piece of land, would that mean that I could have given my dog the only quarry that would have given him the test he needed?

 

You know what I'm saying, and that was my point earlier, I am not prepared to risk my liberty just to give my dog a good workout.

 

 

The only person I have to see when I look in the mirror is me, and I know for fact I did the right thing, so, putting it bluntly, I don't really give a shit what anyone else thinks, I was relating my experience of owning a Bull X, NOT seeking your validation of my decisions.

[JPTfellterrier 65]

Prey drive has nothing to do with a dog being a twat around other dogs. Dogs dont hunt other dogs they fight them as there their own kind and send of signals in there head completly different than a fox or deer would just think how many top class bull crosses there are that work with other dogs regular throughout the season but never fight with them! These dogs have massive prey drive but never fight so what does that tell you? I would agree about greyhounds passing it on tho some are the worst dogs ever for fighting. But its not prey drive it just being brought up wrong and not being taught manners from day one!

i can see where you are coming from there but those dogs see fellow dogs as part of there pack/team and others, like my own, dont and want it all for themselves so i supose shes dominant in that way. If she sees a small dog she acts in the same way as she would with prey with the intent to kill. My dog was like this from 3 months old (when i got her), i wouldnt have believed it if i hadnt seen it but she got nick named hanibal and ASBO dog by friends . Although i think one of her main problems is,with me being so small, she sees me as vulnerable so wants to protect me, her pack, she also whitnessed my terrier get attacked by 6 collies when she was 4 (i think) months old which she proceeded to try and help him which I dont really think helped

 

. Other than this she is as good as gold, the little two year old next door pokes dog treats through through the wire fence for her and she wants to be so gentle she doesnt want to take it for fear of hurting him...if that isnt manours i dont know what is

[hickymick 37]

nice as pie in house,,evil as owt when lamp gose on,,beats my collie greyhound x whippet on rabbits,,

[darklord 25]

strong stuff did the correct thing,

he doesnt have to explain him self to a load of internet hunters but 1 thing is most on here would of sold the dog on for a bit of money for there wacky backi

ss didnt he chose what any decent bloke would do well done,

[Simoman 110]

I class Aaron as a friend and was actually at a show with him the day he purchased Spike, he was tied to the back of the family car and the owner explained why he was selling the dog and it had nothing to do with any faults the dog possessed. Spike was a typical 4/5 month old pup, he was greeting everybody and other dogs in typical puppy manner and the fact is somedogs are a handfull and over the top, its their nature. I also know Aaron loves his dogs and no expence or time spent with the dog would of been wasted, i saw Spike develop into a big powerfull dog and he saw Aaron shortly after he had been bitten, i've been bitten a few times and to say its an unpleasent experience would be an understatement!!! Hundreds were spent on getting the dog right after an accident and the dog was with Aaron 24/7 and i know the sacrifices he made to give the dog every chance available, the fact is some dogs are just too much and Spike was one of those, im sure if he had been purely a kennel dog soley taken out to be grafted then his faults may of remained hidden but Spike was a housedogs, pets with a job if you like who was exposed to everyday situations and unfortunately he wasn't suited to such a life, we all experience, learn and move on, such is life........

[Red Collar 28]

 

You see,it's all in writing for all to see,your the one hard with your dogs,I'm soft with mine ! like my dogs r soft with me,the bullx like most dogs picks up on this, like have you heard people say your dog ends up like you,same temperament same manners same attitude well it's dead right,if you spend enough time with your dog he'll soon be just like you,now most people who work their dogs spend a lot of time with them so their dogs soon learn to be like or wat their owners want them to be like.yours was like you mine r like me soft at home game as f**k in the field.some people r just not meant to work dogs,some r mate.you keep selling stuff and calling people names on the net.I'll keep working lurchers pal.good luck.red.

 

I meant hard as in disciplined, I didn't mean hard as in thinking I'm anything special, honestly this has gone well wrong, have just looked at your profile, there's a couple of lads we have as mutual friends, you don't know me, nor I you, like you said to me earlier, ask around about me, there's no ego involved where me or my dogs are concerned.

 

I noticed this you posted a few weeks ago ................

 

Posted 23 January 2011 - 05:03 PM

 

In my opinion dogmen don't half hold a grudge? Something they seen you do or heard someone say in the past,I just seem to let things go and hope the people involved learn from whatever u didn't like or see. All hunting people start somewhere,they have to learn,some never do,some do bad things on there way,but time and experience can put that right,do you hold grudges? Some of my good mates r the worst for it haha they always bring shit up about so an so when he did that or this haha sometimes it best t say ye bit then forget.

 

After your replies on here tonight, that makes it look like a contradiction.

 

I did ask a question you didn't answer though:

 

If I'd had permission to be on a certain piece of land, would that mean that I could have given my dog the only quarry that would have given him the test he needed?

 

You know what I'm saying, and that was my point earlier, I am not prepared to risk my liberty just to give my dog a good workout.

 

 

The only person I have to see when I look in the mirror is me, and I know for fact I did the right thing, so, putting it bluntly, I don't really give a shit what anyone else thinks, I was relating my experience of owning a Bull X, NOT seeking your validation of my decisions.

What r you going on about ss you have lost me, why r you going through my posts trying to trip me up hahaha,I can't see nothing bad in wat you've come back with,of course all people start somewhere but getting a bullx first is not how it's done it only shows I'm right again you made the mistake not me I said you might know better next time aswell I just wanted to say my bit and forget mate you the one carrying on, and to answer your question I don't like talking about,you know wat I'm saying you could of easy tested that dog if you wanted to, just give it a go see wat it's like there you go tested, ye don't have to keep testing it if your not keen ,you could of ran fox deer watever I'm not on here to argue just say my bit and move on,as for our mutual friends wats it to do with them? You say I'm the type your glad you don't know aren't I glad

[supersam 64]

Theres been some interesting topics posted of late concerning the bull x and them being brain dead crunching machine.Which i totaly disagree with .i myself have been involved in running dogs for past 20 years and believe me had my fair share of shite of every breed.but the last say 10 years have kept my own stuff which basically is bull lurcher with a variety of blood in the line including minshaw [the old stuff] and variety of top class track dogs.i agree with some comments about people going hell bent on having bull blood in there dogs nowadays but even with bulls there is a lot of shite breed .people just breeding any type bull with any greyhound etc and expecting a world beater.but is it not the same in all types of lurchers???take for instance saluki xes.i myself have seen some good dogs over the years but again seen some shite....all bullx owners don,t piss in the same pot.my own view on the bull cross is pre ban nothing could touch them lamping charlies 3 to 4 nights a week and catching and killing between 3to 7 a night [good winter foxes].and if the dog is doing that much work he will have it down to fine art and will not take much damage ,but even the best dogs take stick in all different breeds.

being the one that starting this thread by going by what you said 3-4 nights a week and 3 to 7 fox a night(would like to see pics) then on adverage 15-20 fox a week!! for an adverage of a 3 month season(good winter fox as you said) thats 2-300+ fox a season for a dog(as im guessing by your post your on about a single dog?)

i take it they didnt get any stick from all then fox and didnt have to be rested for healing

i would like to see some pics of such dogs.

[hickymick 37]

bull x's have bad points you have to keep on top off them,now some as this lad said need to be pts if they bite humans,,or even growl at people,,unless its a keeper with fat labs :laugh: but thats same with all dogs isnt it?????