niggly problems with my new dog

[priceyo 1]

hi just after a few tips just bought a dog at 20 months been told he had a few rabbits and not been out for a couple of weeks so i took him out the night with the lamp to see wht he could do and come across a few problems he wont respond to recall im putting this down to the bond with me or hunting down he does come eventually but after hes ran round the field a few times and scared all the other bunnys another thing he not totally aware of the rabbits right in front of him had a few squatters and just bolted past hopefully its just excitment after not been out for a while some tips on making him run down the beam and to come back whens its turned off he is keen as mustard just seems to be spotting them then going wild and losing concentration and advice would be gratefully appriciated cheers

[hickymick 37]

hi just after a few tips just bought a dog at 20 months been told he had a few rabbits and not been out for a couple of weeks so i took him out the night with the lamp to see wht he could do and come across a few problems he wont respond to recall im putting this down to the bond with me or hunting down he does come eventually but after hes ran round the field a few times and scared all the other bunnys another thing he not totally aware of the rabbits right in front of him had a few squatters and just bolted past hopefully its just excitment after not been out for a while some tips on making him run down the beam and to come back whens its turned off he is keen as mustard just seems to be spotting them then going wild and losing concentration and advice would be gratefully appriciated cheers

well what cross is the said dog as that helps,,it could be the bond but i need more info to help on the cross?

[priceyo 1]

hi just after a few tips just bought a dog at 20 months been told he had a few rabbits and not been out for a couple of weeks so i took him out the night with the lamp to see wht he could do and come across a few problems he wont respond to recall im putting this down to the bond with me or hunting down he does come eventually but after hes ran round the field a few times and scared all the other bunnys another thing he not totally aware of the rabbits right in front of him had a few squatters and just bolted past hopefully its just excitment after not been out for a while some tips on making him run down the beam and to come back whens its turned off he is keen as mustard just seems to be spotting them then going wild and losing concentration and advice would be gratefully appriciated cheers

well what cross is the said dog as that helps,,it could be the bond but i need more info to help on the cross?

 

the bloke i bought him rekoned it was 3/4 minshaw 1/4 bull lovely looking dog he is but am not to sure bout the minshaw

[Shazza 52]

I'm new to this so am talking from my dog experience rather than running dog experience (which i lack).

 

First off the dog still sounds very puppy like in his actions and may also just be the joy of getting out again after a long break. I wouldn't think about trying to work him til i had worked on some training and building a good bond with the dog and get him fit at the same time.

Once you have a bond and the dog looks to you for commands and what you want him to do then try him again and you should get better results if the dog is as keen as you say then he will still be wanting to do it later on but with more focus on the job

[taz2010 1,297]

could be the bond might be the dog is shit thats why it was for sale spend a bit of time with it build the bond between yourself and it,get the recall right then try him again keep it on the slip and show it the rabbit ya want it to run rather than showing it a few in the beam when he has seen the one you want him to run slip him,it might be he has been badly trained with previous owner

[priceyo 1]

i think the latter he doesnt even do the basic commands like lie stay come hes been kenneled i think and just leftin there for weeks it shouldnt be to old to start teaching it from scratch will like i said i know it will be a cracking dog if i just put in the time and effort cheers for the advice much appriciated

[baw 4,360]

hi just after a few tips just bought a dog at 20 months been told he had a few rabbits and not been out for a couple of weeks so i took him out the night with the lamp to see wht he could do and come across a few problems he wont respond to recall im putting this down to the bond with me or hunting down he does come eventually but after hes ran round the field a few times and scared all the other bunnys another thing he not totally aware of the rabbits right in front of him had a few squatters and just bolted past hopefully its just excitment after not been out for a while some tips on making him run down the beam and to come back whens its turned off he is keen as mustard just seems to be spotting them then going wild and losing concentration and advice would be gratefully appriciated cheers

 

Sounds to me mate he hasn't been worked or even trained properly. I'd rather be in that position than with a dog at 20 months trained wrong if you know what I mean. Regarding the call back etc, all inexperienced dogs get over excited in the field. Same applies to the squatters. Repetitive training is what you'll need to do, just keep doing the same things till it sinks in. You've got him at the wrong time, just as the season is ending which is a pity. I wouldn't be tempted to hunt him with squeakers in the summer cos they can waste the best of dogs with their constant disappearing, reappearing lark. I'd work all summer on his basic training, i.e recall, etc then once he has mastered this over the summer, he will be a different dog come next season when you start. all the best with him.

[Tyla 3,179]

I'd say lay him off for the summer, concerntrate on training and building up a good bond with the dog and then you'll be all set ready for next season. If you keep trying to work him untrained and unresponsive you'll both get frustrated and he could pick up some bad habits that'll be hard to break later.

 

Good luck with him

[pernod 466]

Hi mate,

I dont want to sound too harsh, but your post is just like hundreds of other on here,people buy mature or half grown dogs and expect them to do as the seller says. I know it is not always the case, but more often than not you are buying a dog with problems that the old owner have instilled in it and can't remove.

Very seldom would you find a decent dog up for sale, think about it logically, the purchase price of the pup initially, the feeding, the hours spent bonding/training the pup. I cant see someone parting with it, unless there was some unavoidable reason. Mind you going by the adverts on here, even with the recession, the amount of dogs passed on because of 'NEW JOB FORCES SALE' is laughable.

 

All you can really do is go back to basics with the dog, and hopefully iron out any of the problems the dog has.

I wish you luck with it mate.

 

Cheers Pernod

[skycat 6,173]

If the dog has been left in a kennel for weeks then the first thing to do is walk it to get it fit. If you run it on game in an unfit state, not only will it act like a headless chicken at being allowed to run loose, you risk damaging its joints and muscles, especially in a solidly made dog. Walk the dog for at least a month, play with it in a park or somewhere there's nothing for it to chase. Build the bond, do some training, get to know the animal inside out, and only then, start to work it.

 

It's my opinion that there are very few totally useless dogs out there, just useless owners who don't do the ground work in training, conditioning and getting the dog experience in the big wide world. Most dogs can learn to catch a rabbit on the lamp, but a lot of owners just ain't got a clue and expect an unfit, or too young, or totally untrained dog to somehow go out and perform as they would like.

[priceyo 1]

cheers lads back to basics it is then i got this dog to bring my pup on looks like it gonna b the other way round regards

[Hedge_hunter27 18]

Same as above that has already been said , over the summer back to basics, training, lots of play and walking, get the dog fit, build up the bond, lots more training, spending time with him, etc.

 

Once you think that is all in order take the dog out with people that have experienced dogs, hold him back a bit and show him what you want him to do and when you know the time is right let him go .

[Guest jt750]

You wanted a made dog ...... open your wallet and its there ...it don't happen

[poacher3161 1,766]

You have definatly had your leg lifted no other way to put it sorry.

[fox digger 1,086]

As a rule of thumb with 20month old dogs the penny is just starting to drop, very very few genuine doggy men sell this age dog unless its tried and shows sum major fault that he/she cant fix or they have put no time into the dog and tried bringing it out and it was a disaster. so its straight on the market as a promising unspoilt lurcher! you cant buy a good 20month old dog, moral is pedlers advertise dogssimilar to this age as its ready to bring out and crack on wit but really it has no 'at home' work done and is totally green. luckily for you it sounds like your lad is green so you have the first of him if you do the basics before you hunt him.nobody(i know) keeps a dog for 20 months and sells at this dage cause no dog can show his full potential at this age and you run the risk of sellin 20 months of time and grub plus passing on what could be a very good dog that is slow to mature........ just my opinion on dogs changing hands this early... best of luck with him by the way.if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck then its usually a DUCK!! good dogs aint for sale.......