could the lurcher

[watchman 256]

there are many reasons for owning and working a lurcher,partly because as we know they are capable of more than one discipline,just got me thinking about them retrieving feather on another thread,not practical i know but in theory could we do without the regular gun dog breeds used.

surely if trained to a high standard they would be more than capable of carrying out the task with the added bonus of it actualy capable of catching something if needed. who knows?

A Lurcher will do a gundogs job better than a gundog can do a Lurchers job !..... But a Lurcher will never be better than a gundog at a gundogs job !! Hope that makes sense !! LOL !!

 

Cheers.

 

had to read that twice but yes makes sense

[PoCk0 40]

You sometimes see a labrador with a touch of greyhound in it just to give it that extra pace, but they still have a soft mouth.

[watchman 256]

No mate, although an all rounder is great, i dont think you can have a dog that is purpose bred and trained for a specific job. Until you see very good gundogs working (and i dont mean retrieving shot birds in a field from a gun line. . . .but WORKING) then you dont appreciate how purpose bred they are with regards to size, shape, build, mentality etc. You do see a lot of shit gun dogs now tho, fat labs. A good lab, looks in build closer to a greyhound than a fat lab, long legged, muscled, with a tucked waist.

 

 

thats half the battle,if you move in the circles of people that work a good gun dog i probably would not have asked the question but from what iv seen myself then yes a lot of fat labs are out there doing nothing more than a well trained lurcher,ok yes lots of other gun dog breeds used as well but this is just an example

[paulus 26]

not wanting kennels full of breed specific dogs i use my lurchers for everything including retriving shot game, even in water, in the pigeon hide and rough shooting i expect them to bush and retrieve. i admit they havent the style of a spaniel or a lab but the do the job to the standard i require and forefill all that a lurcher should do aswell. they cost nowhere near a gundog to buy and in most cases are easier to train and tend to have a longer working life. i have no inclination to field trial or pay to shoot driven game so in short why would i want a one track pony of a gundog?

[watchman 256]

You sometimes see a labrador with a touch of greyhound in it just to give it that extra pace, but they still have a soft mouth.

 

but that begs the question why would you want a gun dog with extra pace as presumably they are all ready bred right for the job,or are they,dont know iv lost myself now

[watchman 256]

not wanting kennels full of breed specific dogs i use my lurchers for everything including retriving shot game, even in water, in the pigeon hide and rough shooting i expect them to bush and retrieve. i admit they havent the style of a spaniel or a lab but the do the job to the standard i require and forefill all that a lurcher should do aswell. they cost nowhere near a gundog to buy and in most cases are easier to train and tend to have a longer working life. i have no inclination to field trial or pay to shoot driven game so in short why would i want a one track pony of a gundog?

 

 

as mine are to,well nearly lol,but it was a general question i suppose not personel requirement if you know what i mean

[paulus 26]

not wanting kennels full of breed specific dogs i use my lurchers for everything including retriving shot game, even in water, in the pigeon hide and rough shooting i expect them to bush and retrieve. i admit they havent the style of a spaniel or a lab but the do the job to the standard i require and forefill all that a lurcher should do aswell. they cost nowhere near a gundog to buy and in most cases are easier to train and tend to have a longer working life. i have no inclination to field trial or pay to shoot driven game so in short why would i want a one track pony of a gundog?

 

 

as mine are to,well nearly lol,but it was a general question i suppose not personel requirement if you know what i mean

 

 

most gundogs are purchased as a shooting accessary buy those who have to keep up with the set

[fensaluki 35]

You sometimes see a labrador with a touch of greyhound in it just to give it that extra pace, but they still have a soft mouth.

 

but that begs the question why would you want a gun dog with extra pace as presumably they are all ready bred right for the job,or are they,dont know iv lost myself now

 

 

Would this not technicaly be a lurcher ?????

ATB

[paulus 26]

You sometimes see a labrador with a touch of greyhound in it just to give it that extra pace, but they still have a soft mouth.

 

but that begs the question why would you want a gun dog with extra pace as presumably they are all ready bred right for the job,or are they,dont know iv lost myself now

 

 

Would this not technicaly be a lurcher ?????

ATB

 

correct

[watchman 256]

You sometimes see a labrador with a touch of greyhound in it just to give it that extra pace, but they still have a soft mouth.

 

but that begs the question why would you want a gun dog with extra pace as presumably they are all ready bred right for the job,or are they,dont know iv lost myself now

 

 

Would this not technicaly be a lurcher ?????

ATB

 

have heard of a few of this type over the years but they certainly not common,i asked about gry/lab long time ago but people were very negative prob due to the likely litter waistage,to heavy

[PoCk0 40]

You sometimes see a labrador with a touch of greyhound in it just to give it that extra pace, but they still have a soft mouth.

 

but that begs the question why would you want a gun dog with extra pace as presumably they are all ready bred right for the job,or are they,dont know iv lost myself now

 

 

Would this not technicaly be a lurcher ?????

ATB

 

correct

I don't think it would be a true lurcher, but it depends how you look at it. They are often 3/4 lab and 1/4 greyhound or even 7/8 lab and 1/8 greyhound. But yes, a lurcher is a working dog x long dog, so it technically would be a lurcher.

[fensaluki 35]

You sometimes see a labrador with a touch of greyhound in it just to give it that extra pace, but they still have a soft mouth.

 

but that begs the question why would you want a gun dog with extra pace as presumably they are all ready bred right for the job,or are they,dont know iv lost myself now

 

 

Would this not technicaly be a lurcher ?????

ATB

 

have heard of a few of this type over the years but they certainly not common,i asked about gry/lab long time ago but people were very negative prob due to the likely litter waistage,to heavy

 

 

I recon your right mate but would be interesting to see what a light weight long dog say Saluki x Greyhound first cross and one of the lighter weight field trial labs would throw.

I cant see any reason why they wouldn't make good ferreting and bushing/mooching dogs and even tidy lampers if they threw light enough.

 

ATB

[watchman 256]

You sometimes see a labrador with a touch of greyhound in it just to give it that extra pace, but they still have a soft mouth.

 

but that begs the question why would you want a gun dog with extra pace as presumably they are all ready bred right for the job,or are they,dont know iv lost myself now

 

 

Would this not technicaly be a lurcher ?????

ATB

 

have heard of a few of this type over the years but they certainly not common,i asked about gry/lab long time ago but people were very negative prob due to the likely litter waistage,to heavy

 

 

I recon your right mate but would be interesting to see what a light weight long dog say Saluki x Greyhound first cross and one of the lighter weight field trial labs would throw.

I cant see any reason why they wouldn't make good ferreting and bushing/mooching dogs and even tidy lampers if they threw light enough.

 

ATB

 

thats what i thought at the time,lot of gun dogs naturaly retrieve i think and what with being soft mouthed may well produce a lucher with nice tight feet as well, good attributes to have i reckon

[PoCk0 40]

You sometimes see a labrador with a touch of greyhound in it just to give it that extra pace, but they still have a soft mouth.

 

but that begs the question why would you want a gun dog with extra pace as presumably they are all ready bred right for the job,or are they,dont know iv lost myself now

 

 

Would this not technicaly be a lurcher ?????

ATB

 

have heard of a few of this type over the years but they certainly not common,i asked about gry/lab long time ago but people were very negative prob due to the likely litter waistage,to heavy

 

 

I recon your right mate but would be interesting to see what a light weight long dog say Saluki x Greyhound first cross and one of the lighter weight field trial labs would throw.

I cant see any reason why they wouldn't make good ferreting and bushing/mooching dogs and even tidy lampers if they threw light enough.

 

ATB

Theres a quite well known lab x grey which (I think) is called Ben the Wonderdog. It does lamping, ferreting, bushing, retrieving and all sorts. (Name may be wrong)

[fensaluki 35]

You sometimes see a labrador with a touch of greyhound in it just to give it that extra pace, but they still have a soft mouth.

 

but that begs the question why would you want a gun dog with extra pace as presumably they are all ready bred right for the job,or are they,dont know iv lost myself now

 

 

Would this not technicaly be a lurcher ?????

ATB

 

have heard of a few of this type over the years but they certainly not common,i asked about gry/lab long time ago but people were very negative prob due to the likely litter waistage,to heavy

 

 

I recon your right mate but would be interesting to see what a light weight long dog say Saluki x Greyhound first cross and one of the lighter weight field trial labs would throw.

I cant see any reason why they wouldn't make good ferreting and bushing/mooching dogs and even tidy lampers if they threw light enough.

 

ATB

 

thats what i thought at the time,lot of gun dogs naturaly retrieve i think and what with being soft mouthed may well produce a lucher with nice tight feet as well good attributes to have i reckon

 

 

Have to try it mate...Maybe end up being the new Hancock LOL

ATB