blackstaff 488 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 Dawn / Romany - Thanks for your help guy's Hopefully going to try and get out again later with the other lens, tweek the settings and give it another go Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SINDASOX 256 Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 heres a tip I got off a semi-pro..http://www.reverseimage.co.uk/set the white balance to Cloudy, and give it a -1 value, leave it there for the bulk of your work..it will give your pics similar effect as a warming filter. Is that tip only for the D200....or can it be used with other camera's ie Canon. Cheers SINDASOX Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Romany 1,065 Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 Not sure sinda, not aufait with canon, I only have proper cameras...ha, ha...but, probably not, as this setting dosnt have the same effect on my D300, which has a different sub menu in the white balance set up, I do however put the WB on my D300 to cloudy with decent results..the auto white balance on the D300 is better than the D200.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Romany 1,065 Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 Dawn / Romany - Thanks for your help guy's Hopefully going to try and get out again later with the other lens, tweek the settings and give it another go Thats the way to do it..Ive spent literally hours with settings and test shots, and everytime you get a new camera a little more work has to be done..switch your blinkies on..check your historgram to stop over exposure, there are many authors on the web who list their setting for the D200, use these as a guide only..but listen to the people who are using Nikon, others give a more generic view on photgraphy, not need specific info to Nikon to get the best out of what is a professional camera..Ive searched the web for focus problems with the D200, found virtually nowt,,and must say being a member on many Nikon based groups this has never come up, the D200`s focussing system seems to get nothing but praise..so it must be either your lense, settings or technique.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
undisputed 1,664 Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 Ask away sweet cheeks ......... Sweet Cheeks! Hannah luvs Blackstaff hannah luvs Blackstaff Grow up! Wish I had a £1 for everytime I heard that....was only joshing mrs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MuttleMcTuttle 21 Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 heres a tip I got off a semi-pro..http://www.reverseimage.co.uk/set the white balance to Cloudy, and give it a -1 value, leave it there for the bulk of your work..it will give your pics similar effect as a warming filter. Is that tip only for the D200....or can it be used with other camera's ie Canon. Cheers SINDASOX Unlike Nikons, Canon white balance is usually pretty good left on auto... But yes, if you feel the urge, setting the WB to cloudy will warm the pics up a bit. On the whole though, Nikon pics do tend to be a bit cooler. Blackstaff - have you tried calibrating the lens to the camera? Not even sure if this is possible with the D200, but it's not unusual for the odd lens to be slightly out, and it can make a lot of difference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hannah4181 260 Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 Ask away sweet cheeks ......... Sweet Cheeks! Hannah luvs Blackstaff hannah luvs Blackstaff Grow up! Wish I had a £1 for everytime I heard that....was only joshing mrs As was i. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Romany 1,065 Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 heres a tip I got off a semi-pro..http://www.reverseimage.co.uk/set the white balance to Cloudy, and give it a -1 value, leave it there for the bulk of your work..it will give your pics similar effect as a warming filter. Is that tip only for the D200....or can it be used with other camera's ie Canon. Cheers SINDASOX Unlike Nikons, Canon white balance is usually pretty good left on auto... But yes, if you feel the urge, setting the WB to cloudy will warm the pics up a bit. On the whole though, Nikon pics do tend to be a bit BETTER. Blackstaff - have you tried calibrating the lens to the camera? Not even sure if this is possible with the D200, but it's not unusual for the odd lens to be slightly out, and it can make a lot of difference. Nearly bit there hon, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MuttleMcTuttle 21 Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 heres a tip I got off a semi-pro..http://www.reverseimage.co.uk/set the white balance to Cloudy, and give it a -1 value, leave it there for the bulk of your work..it will give your pics similar effect as a warming filter. Is that tip only for the D200....or can it be used with other camera's ie Canon. Cheers SINDASOX Unlike Nikons, Canon white balance is usually pretty good left on auto... But yes, if you feel the urge, setting the WB to cloudy will warm the pics up a bit. On the whole though, Nikon pics do tend to be a bit BETTER, Blackstaff - have you tried calibrating the lens to the camera? Not even sure if this is possible with the D200, but it's not unusual for the odd lens to be slightly out, and it can make a lot of difference. Nearly bit there hon, naughty naughty Everyone knows that Sony is the way to go now anyway Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackstaff 488 Posted February 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 Muttlemct - I haven't yet calibrated lens to camera I was hoping to get a decent 70/300vr but just cant justify the money atm after buying the camera and a new 18/105vr ' ..so it must be either your lense, settings or technique.. ' OR ME !! Which is more than likely as i know the camera is great, and i am not . . . . . . . . yet A few ( 70+ )that i took yesterday with the settings recommended by Romany, using my the new 18/105vr lens I have deleted alot of what i took, i would say 50% because they were still to dark or very slightly out of focus as some of these are but not as bad. I did take over 500 pics yesterday alot were of the kids which for obvious reasons dont go up here And i'm left with around 250 or so. Some are getting printed in B&W as i sit here for the grandparents so not all doom and gloom by any means. Here are the pic's, if you can be ars*d to look http://s1178.photobucket.com/albums/x372/blackstaff2/Tilgate%20Feb%2011/?albumview=slideshow Cheers, blackstaff Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Romany 1,065 Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 (edited) Muttlemct - I haven't yet calibrated lens to camera I was hoping to get a decent 70/300vr but just cant justify the money atm after buying the camera and a new 18/105vr ' ..so it must be either your lense, settings or technique.. ' OR ME !! Which is more than likely as i know the camera is great, and i am not . . . . . . . . yet A few ( 70+ )that i took yesterday with the settings recommended by Romany, using my the new 18/105vr lens I have deleted alot of what i took, i would say 50% because they were still to dark or very slightly out of focus as some of these are but not as bad. I did take over 500 pics yesterday alot were of the kids which for obvious reasons dont go up here And i'm left with around 250 or so. Some are getting printed in B&W as i sit here for the grandparents so not all doom and gloom by any means. Here are the pic's, if you can be ars*d to look http://s1178.photobucket.com/albums/x372/blackstaff2/Tilgate%20Feb%2011/?albumview=slideshow Cheers, blackstaff Hi mate, can you put 2 pics on here untouched up, one you think that is a bit dark, and one that you think that is not focussed. There is a lot to learn, the D200 is a professional camera, but its a one that is not to bad to come to terms with.. What in camera setting arfe you using for sharpening? you will find it in the Shooting Menue, where it says set picture control. Edited February 26, 2011 by Romany Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tiny tim 22 Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 pracise,practise and practise some more ,,,the more pics you take the better you will become ..keep putting pics up for people to see and with constructive critism you will get better ...the d200 is a great camera so with a decent lens you should be able to take some decent shots Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackstaff 488 Posted February 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Hi Romany, none of the pics from the second set have been touched up at all. I have checked in my Shooting menu and there is no picture control setting menu ? Maybe i'm not looking in the right place Here are 3 pics which i think are not quite right, the first 2 are imo too dark, the 3rd slightly out of focus. Thanks for all your help Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MuttleMcTuttle 21 Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Had a look at your pics on photobucket and a lot of them seem to be pretty well-focused, so I doubt there is a major problem with the camera or lens, but it's hard to tell at small size. There is a pic of a bird with a red head that looks well sharp! With the piggy shot I'm guessing the pig moved just out of the focus area (or you moved) just as you took the pic. The longer the lens, the more any little focus problems will show up. Regarding the exposure - some of the pics have come out a bit dark but some of them could be corrected with a tweak on the levels in photoshop or similar. It looks as if it wasn't the best light on the day in question, and tbh I think you and the camera have done pretty well For most I suspect the main problem is that you were using spot metering. For the pic of the trees I'm guessing that the camera meter reading was taken from a fairly bright area of the sky. Digital cameras have a habit of trying to turn everything a nice neutral grey, and in this case it's done a good job... I'd suggest changing the metering mode on the camera from spot metering to evaluative/average metering. I think this may be called "matrix" on Nikons? the one that meters for the whole scene. Spot metering will only cover a very small area in the centre of the viewfinder (or where your focus point is on some cameras) and if this area is much brighter or darker than the rest it will affect the overall image quite a lot. Centre-weighted metering can be useful if your subject has strong backlighting, but spot metering is very precise which is okay if you only want your main subject to be perfectly exposed. If you are shooting in tricky light conditions try auto-bracketing the exposure (taking 3 or more shots at different exposures) then blending them together (or simply selecting the best one!) HTH. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tiny tim 22 Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 theres not much wrong with those shots as said the camera has taken a reading off the brightest bit ie the background in the tree shot and the water in front of the goose...i,ve taken the liberty of brightening the goose<hope you dont mind> as you can see its not bad ...it would have been a belter if you had got its tail and the reflection on the lake/ the pig shot is in focus but the camera has focused on the wall and not the pig. try bracketing the exposure so you can see the difference between different exposure settings just keep practising so you know the cameras limitations.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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