shepp 2,285 Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I think that when you propose all of these solutions you need to remember that there is a massive jobs deficit at the moment. It is incredibly hard to find even the most basic work at the moment. I also don't think that many people actually want to spend their lives on the dole, what is it £50 a week? With inflation as it is, that really won't stretch far. I think that our country should focus on the people who do have jobs and reward them for working - they need to sort out the sad fact that a lot of people earning minimum wage would be better off claiming benefits - can you really blame someone in that predicament? I also think that our government is punishing the wrong people, the latest increment in university fees is a disgrace. Social mobility hasn't been this bad since the 1920s and it's getting worse, so please think before you condemn an entire section of society to be entrapped in permanent poverty! Well all sounds great but one little problem, the last lot practically bankrupted the country. I don't know if you have noticed but we live in a world economy so we compete with countries that have far smaller overheads. We can't just pull cash put of a hat, well not any more. You must either be a student or a pulic sector worker who has never had to produce a profit from a days work and so keep the economy running. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RicW 67 Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 OK, I'll turn this round. Having worked as a knitter most of me life I was made redundant in 1997, and there was no chance I'd ever get another job in knitwear 'cos there is no knitwear manufacturing left in this country. While I was on the rock'n'roll I did a bit of painting and decorating - I'm quite good with a paint brush, and hang a mean roll of paper - and gardening. All cash in hand, fiver an hour and no names no pack drill. Was I a benefit cheat? By the book I was. Or was I a guy trying to earn a few bob and fluck the system? Remember these were one-off jobs. And working for our Asian brothers . . . Don't set me off!. Ric Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shepp 2,285 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) OK, I'll turn this round. Having worked as a knitter most of me life I was made redundant in 1997, and there was no chance I'd ever get another job in knitwear 'cos there is no knitwear manufacturing left in this country. While I was on the rock'n'roll I did a bit of painting and decorating - I'm quite good with a paint brush, and hang a mean roll of paper - and gardening. All cash in hand, fiver an hour and no names no pack drill. Was I a benefit cheat? By the book I was. Or was I a guy trying to earn a few bob and fluck the system? Remember these were one-off jobs. And working for our Asian brothers . . . Don't set me off!. Ric Depends whether you were claiming too I guess. If your were claiming and you did cash in hand for long enough to build up client base, say a few months then I could understand it. Edited February 24, 2011 by shepp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
byron 1,190 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 no i think they should reintroduce slavery for the things you just mentioned i do feel sorry for people who really try hard to look for work but keep getting rejected. I was unemployed for a couple of weeks but go work shop-fitting 4nights a week and get the odd day plastering. yeh.. bet its all on the side.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dare 1,103 Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 Read back in the earlier pages what I thought was a fine idea. Should be an option for people to do jobs around the community for double their dole money. Thing is though would this tread on other peoples toes and not put them out of work? Mate of mine has been signing on for few months and got stuck on some course....its only done so your classed then as being in education rather than unemployed. Sure I heard my cousin saying something about it being on the radio the job center offering to pay 30p an hour and calling it volunteering work? No offence and I know its wrong but I'd sooner sell drugs than get paid 30p an hour. That's a joke why don't they just pay them the going wage? That again is costing people work because people will just get the 30p an hour guys in. Yes you get some lazy sods who don't want to work but many do and the work just isn't there. Glad I'm working couldn't live on the dole don't see how anyone can have a life with that money not saying you should be able to go out and piss it up on the weekends that should be the benefit of working but even every day living 200 a month sod that for a life. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poacher3161 1,766 Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 Theirs also plenty out of work who have to sighn on and get feck all just their stamp paid due to having paid into pensions should they also be made to clean other peoples shit up as well ??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 I personally think 6 months max then after that government find you work. If you refuse then benefits should be stopped completely. Alot of people are too fussy, saying they wouldnt do this or do that. But if their benefits were stopped then they would have no choice... And after 6 months of doing something that makes their life a complete misery they're back in the dole queue looking for another job. It's not about a quick fix it's about finding whats best for people rather than dictating what they have to do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
judge2010 196 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 Theirs also plenty out of work who have to sighn on and get feck all just their stamp paid due to having paid into pensions should they also be made to clean other peoples shit up as well ??? does that really need answering? We're talking about the work dodgers who sit around all day waiting for the b*****d pubs to open to spunk all OUR hard earned money on ale and fags. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 if people have been claiming jobseekers for over 6months do you think they should be made to do work in the community i.e. litter picking,painting, cutting the grass etc? I think it would be a good idea. Community service because they haven't got a job? How about training them up in something that suits them, that'd be better don't you think? yeah because the country has loads of money to do that. At a guess there 2.5 million unemployed people in the UK at present and how much is the average training course? How long should these courses last for? Nice idea but not very realistic in the currant finanacial climate. i know what your saying judge,but f**k that going picking up rubbish just cause you happen to be out of a job.you shopuldnt be punished for that I know a few people who aren't bagheads but scummy twats none the less who have no intention of working yet walk around in designer clothes, drive around in cars and have top of the range mobile phones but yet they only recive £130 every two weeks. Theres nothing more i'd like to see them those c**ts doing a days graft it would kill them! Sounds like Jealousy to me, that's a bad trait for anyone to have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
airarmstx200 8 Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 Great idea, there is litter strewn all over the sides of the dual carriage ways round here Lots of old folk need houses cleaned, painted and gardens tidied. We could have gangs of say a dozen unemployed being organised by an ex-army person, if any of the gang are to lazy to get there arses out of bed then benefits can be deducted say by 1/5 each day. You could have someone on incapacity driving the mini bus from job to job. We need to shame some into playing a part in society and not just taking all the time. yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes. yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
judge2010 196 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 if people have been claiming jobseekers for over 6months do you think they should be made to do work in the community i.e. litter picking,painting, cutting the grass etc? I think it would be a good idea. Community service because they haven't got a job? How about training them up in something that suits them, that'd be better don't you think? yeah because the country has loads of money to do that. At a guess there 2.5 million unemployed people in the UK at present and how much is the average training course? How long should these courses last for? Nice idea but not very realistic in the currant finanacial climate. i know what your saying judge,but f**k that going picking up rubbish just cause you happen to be out of a job.you shopuldnt be punished for that I know a few people who aren't bagheads but scummy twats none the less who have no intention of working yet walk around in designer clothes, drive around in cars and have top of the range mobile phones but yet they only recive £130 every two weeks. Theres nothing more i'd like to see them those c**ts doing a days graft it would kill them! Sounds like Jealousy to me, that's a bad trait for anyone to have. Jealousy??? haha clown! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 I know a few people who aren't bagheads but scummy twats none the less who have no intention of working yet walk around in designer clothes, drive around in cars and have top of the range mobile phones but yet they only recive £130 every two weeks. Theres nothing more i'd like to see them those c**ts doing a days graft it would kill them! Sounds like Jealousy to me, that's a bad trait for anyone to have. Jealousy??? haha clown! Sorry pal, but it does sound like Jealousy to me. Why are you so concerned with what other people have got? If you mind your own business and just get on with your own thing then you wouldn't have to come onto forums like this ranting about someone getting £100 odd every couple of week from signing on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
judge2010 196 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 I know a few people who aren't bagheads but scummy twats none the less who have no intention of working yet walk around in designer clothes, drive around in cars and have top of the range mobile phones but yet they only recive £130 every two weeks. Theres nothing more i'd like to see them those c**ts doing a days graft it would kill them! Sounds like Jealousy to me, that's a bad trait for anyone to have. Jealousy??? haha clown! Sorry pal, but it does sound like Jealousy to me. Why are you so concerned with what other people have got? If you mind your own business and just get on with your own thing then you wouldn't have to come onto forums like this ranting about someone getting £100 odd every couple of week from signing on. mate, i dont mind genuine people who sign on like tb25 etc its the leaches that dont want to work but yet get to spend more time in the pub then i do! So maybe abit jealous But if i didnt work i bet i still couldn't afford to go to the pub everyday. I hear them saying "got another crisis loan today, you coming to mine got some pukkas" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 3,709 Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 I know a few people who aren't bagheads but scummy twats none the less who have no intention of working yet walk around in designer clothes, drive around in cars and have top of the range mobile phones but yet they only recive £130 every two weeks. Theres nothing more i'd like to see them those c**ts doing a days graft it would kill them! Sounds like Jealousy to me, that's a bad trait for anyone to have. Jealousy??? haha clown! Sorry pal, but it does sound like Jealousy to me. Why are you so concerned with what other people have got? If you mind your own business and just get on with your own thing then you wouldn't have to come onto forums like this ranting about someone getting £100 odd every couple of week from signing on. mate, i dont mind genuine people who sign on like tb25 etc its the leaches that dont want to work but yet get to spend more time in the pub then i do! So maybe abit jealous But if i didnt work i bet i still couldn't afford to go to the pub everyday. I hear them saying "got another crisis loan today, you coming to mine got some pukkas" to be honest i would be better off giving up this part time job i do & going to the quacks & playing on my nerves & saying i am depressed & cant cope so as i am borderline mental i get help off the dss .. I get money to live on & no council tax to pay .. aint that brilliant I am only 5 quid a week better off for working & I have to dodge the council tax bailiffs every week who are getting more crafty by the week can you blame anyone for drawing benefit.. because i dont Quote Link to post Share on other sites
judge2010 196 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 I know a few people who aren't bagheads but scummy twats none the less who have no intention of working yet walk around in designer clothes, drive around in cars and have top of the range mobile phones but yet they only recive £130 every two weeks. Theres nothing more i'd like to see them those c**ts doing a days graft it would kill them! Sounds like Jealousy to me, that's a bad trait for anyone to have. Jealousy??? haha clown! Sorry pal, but it does sound like Jealousy to me. Why are you so concerned with what other people have got? If you mind your own business and just get on with your own thing then you wouldn't have to come onto forums like this ranting about someone getting £100 odd every couple of week from signing on. mate, i dont mind genuine people who sign on like tb25 etc its the leaches that dont want to work but yet get to spend more time in the pub then i do! So maybe abit jealous But if i didnt work i bet i still couldn't afford to go to the pub everyday. I hear them saying "got another crisis loan today, you coming to mine got some pukkas" to be honest i would be better off giving up this part time job i do & going to the quacks & playing on my nerves & saying i am depressed & cant cope so as i am borderline mental i get help off the dss .. I get money to live on & no council tax to pay .. aint that brilliant I am only 5 quid a week better off for working & I have to dodge the council tax bailiffs every week who are getting more crafty by the week can you blame anyone for drawing benefit.. because i dont i dont blame genuine people who need help but i do blame the scrubbers that dont wanna work! We all say paki's should be kicked out of the country but i think bone idle people should as well. Anyway i'm bored of this topic now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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