years of good hare dogs being f****d by people puting silly bull blood not gonna be any real hare dogs in years 2 come

[Simoman 110]

your right lots lads get because they think they look good with them .

 

overated and lately people seem to think that every dog has to have bull in em to do stuff what bites back ? dont really get it tbh .

ive never seen a decent running one yet just feks everything up

 

 

i agree! cant turn, no wind, cut easy, headstrong, defo not any brain, strong thats it, beddys do same job as a mix. jmo. but i never seen a good one yet. for all you that own one. a clever dog doesnt get bit back. mines 11 year old still could do what anyones one here could do, hes a sal, grey, beddy, mix. good on long ears, on the bushy tails, on the big stuff, and can fill the freezer up with rabbits. Loadsa mates went to wales buying first x bulls, off so called good lines. Theyre crap. my old dog showed em up every time, alright for one bushy, then cut to pieces getting blood all on my seats trying to climb over my head to get in on a run allsorts. bull x are crap! they say bit of bull gives drive, a greyhound gives plenty of drive for any lurcher. beddys also have the rough coat to add to a lurcher too. Bulls x are smooth coated, big feet, dopey ugly, ignorant shite. that are knackered after running in a straight line for 3 mins TRYING to catch something they can only just about see. ha ha!

 

bigchief speak with forked tongue and narrowmind And your claim saying your 11 year old dog can do what anybodies on here can do just removes any credibility from your post!! Your synopsis of the breeds qualities, or lack of show that ignorance is bliss As bosun says there all lurchers, and if they were that bad they would of died out long ago, if you don't like a particular cross, its simple, dont own one!!! I wouldn't own a saluki or bedlington x but i don't feel the need to slate the cross or knock those that do....

 

 

I not knocking anyone that does own bull, as states this is JMO, narrow mind? Ive seen plenty run, never seen anything that justifys bringing a fighting dog to a lurcher/ or any running dog. JMO as this is a public forum, I am a member of the public and have right to MY Opinion, truth hurts simoman thats what this thread is about. the reason they wont die out is because people are convinced they have to be tough.

foxes are not tough, PRE BAN if dog is clever, waits for strike, gets it in right place, its dead WITHIN SECONDS, few shakes of the neck, theyre not that strong. got a nasty bite thats all, any decent allround lurcher would do this, no need for bull, unless they like to see dogs cut to pieces where they steam in and grab em up the arse, or first thing they grab, only for fox to natrurally turn and defend its self, theres not much to do, dogs are naturally stronger than foxes, no contest. As for my dog, hes 11, was retired at 8 yrs, still walk him though, dont leave in kennels to die after 8 yrs excellent service, if he decides to run a fox/rabbit/pheasent/hare, its up to him in his retirement, he was introduced to fox at 6 yrs when finished daytime long ears, he caught everyone i put him on easily if given right slip. Admittedly he wasnt fast at finishing them, but thats due to the way he was only run on things that dont bite back, he still wasnt bitten, hed let go, and get a better hold to neck , never never did he let them get far, used his head see, rather him do it in his own time than get his face mashed up or leg, also other day at 11 YEARS OLD got two long ears running free behind my house, complete accident. Thats a proper dog mate, SO PLEASE TELL ME WHY DOES MY POST HAVE NO CREDIBILITY.? would you rather your dog do it with or without getting hurt?

Bulls still feel the pain, Breeding bull x crap just in case they get bit is stupid, why? If your lurcher jacks you get another, if it cant kill cxharlie and you want it to, get another dont breed that lurcher that cant do it with bull, what a joke. A good rabbit dog wouldnt need bull, a hare dog doesnt need bull, its a recent thing in last 20-30 years from a new breed of hardcore fox killers that love to see a scrap. A good fox dog would learn/ evolve something bulls are not capable of doing. IMO. and yes alot of friends own them and yes they are still friends. JMO.

 

I await your response moderator. on a subject you obviously know more about than me, it would be intresting to hear your opinion. This meaning what a bull blood brings to a lurcher, that another existing mix doesnt? and why. as for running rabbits all bull does is take away qualities already within the breeding, of course they can catch rabbits, my staffy can catch em around my land, so should I breed her with a grey.? no. that would be stupid. as is breeding bulls. bull dogs are for fighting full stop. I realise alot of people own them I,m not stupid, and if anyone can give me a meaningful answer that makes sense then maybe They could show me, and I may change my opinion, I would admit I were wrong, no dramas.

 

 

Its all personal preference at the end of the day, you or i may kennel whatever cross we like and if it meets our own standards then who cares as we are the ones who kennel, feed and maintain them. Although i do sense a little tug on the old line........is that a bite For you to state and that all bull crosses are crap shows ignorance or you haven't seen many. You say bulls shouldn't be added as they werehistorically bred as fighting dogs, should we have introduced herding dog via the collie, terrier via the Bedlingon....they were added because they brought atributes that improved the hunting dogs abilities, and i along with many others believe the same about various bull breeds used. Your right you have a right to your opinion, i never suggested otherwise and i along with others explained what bull breed brings but as you say your mind is made up so why try to justify something to you that you don't or wont comprehend, my being a moderator means nothing, i have opinions too.My comment at your bold statement, and i quote "mines 11 year old still could do what anyones one here could do" was meant tongue in cheek, i wouldn't be so presumptious to suggest mine could do the same and i'm sure in reality you don't really think that either At the end of the day both of us will kennel what we are happy with and to be honest i don't really give two hoots what you think of my dogs and i'm sure the feeling is mutual

[supersam 64]

your right lots lads get because they think they look good with them .

 

overated and lately people seem to think that every dog has to have bull in em to do stuff what bites back ? dont really get it tbh .

ive never seen a decent running one yet just feks everything up

 

 

i agree! cant turn, no wind, cut easy, headstrong, defo not any brain, strong thats it, beddys do same job as a mix. jmo. but i never seen a good one yet. for all you that own one. a clever dog doesnt get bit back. mines 11 year old still could do what anyones one here could do, hes a sal, grey, beddy, mix. good on long ears, on the bushy tails, on the big stuff, and can fill the freezer up with rabbits. Loadsa mates went to wales buying first x bulls, off so called good lines. Theyre crap. my old dog showed em up every time, alright for one bushy, then cut to pieces getting blood all on my seats trying to climb over my head to get in on a run allsorts. bull x are crap! they say bit of bull gives drive, a greyhound gives plenty of drive for any lurcher. beddys also have the rough coat to add to a lurcher too. Bulls x are smooth coated, big feet, dopey ugly, ignorant shite. that are knackered after running in a straight line for 3 mins TRYING to catch something they can only just about see. ha ha!

 

bigchief speak with forked tongue and narrowmind And your claim saying your 11 year old dog can do what anybodies on here can do just removes any credibility from your post!! Your synopsis of the breeds qualities, or lack of show that ignorance is bliss As bosun says there all lurchers, and if they were that bad they would of died out long ago, if you don't like a particular cross, its simple, dont own one!!! I wouldn't own a saluki or bedlington x but i don't feel the need to slate the cross or knock those that do....

 

 

I not knocking anyone that does own bull, as states this is JMO, narrow mind? Ive seen plenty run, never seen anything that justifys bringing a fighting dog to a lurcher/ or any running dog. JMO as this is a public forum, I am a member of the public and have right to MY Opinion, truth hurts simoman thats what this thread is about. the reason they wont die out is because people are convinced they have to be tough.

foxes are not tough, PRE BAN if dog is clever, waits for strike, gets it in right place, its dead WITHIN SECONDS, few shakes of the neck, theyre not that strong. got a nasty bite thats all, any decent allround lurcher would do this, no need for bull, unless they like to see dogs cut to pieces where they steam in and grab em up the arse, or first thing they grab, only for fox to natrurally turn and defend its self, theres not much to do, dogs are naturally stronger than foxes, no contest. As for my dog, hes 11, was retired at 8 yrs, still walk him though, dont leave in kennels to die after 8 yrs excellent service, if he decides to run a fox/rabbit/pheasent/hare, its up to him in his retirement, he was introduced to fox at 6 yrs when finished daytime long ears, he caught everyone i put him on easily if given right slip. Admittedly he wasnt fast at finishing them, but thats due to the way he was only run on things that dont bite back, he still wasnt bitten, hed let go, and get a better hold to neck , never never did he let them get far, used his head see, rather him do it in his own time than get his face mashed up or leg, also other day at 11 YEARS OLD got two long ears running free behind my house, complete accident. Thats a proper dog mate, SO PLEASE TELL ME WHY DOES MY POST HAVE NO CREDIBILITY.? would you rather your dog do it with or without getting hurt?

Bulls still feel the pain, Breeding bull x crap just in case they get bit is stupid, why? If your lurcher jacks you get another, if it cant kill cxharlie and you want it to, get another dont breed that lurcher that cant do it with bull, what a joke. A good rabbit dog wouldnt need bull, a hare dog doesnt need bull, its a recent thing in last 20-30 years from a new breed of hardcore fox killers that love to see a scrap. A good fox dog would learn/ evolve something bulls are not capable of doing. IMO. and yes alot of friends own them and yes they are still friends. JMO.

 

I await your response moderator. on a subject you obviously know more about than me, it would be intresting to hear your opinion. This meaning what a bull blood brings to a lurcher, that another existing mix doesnt? and why. as for running rabbits all bull does is take away qualities already within the breeding, of course they can catch rabbits, my staffy can catch em around my land, so should I breed her with a grey.? no. that would be stupid. as is breeding bulls. bull dogs are for fighting full stop. I realise alot of people own them I,m not stupid, and if anyone can give me a meaningful answer that makes sense then maybe They could show me, and I may change my opinion, I would admit I were wrong, no dramas.

totally agree

would like to see a dog that does six and seven fox a night!!

pics would be welcome too!!

over here where its still legall alot use collie or weathon x's very successfully on fox and there just as good at rabbits

they take em week in week out too.just ask scent on here

[Red Collar 28]

your right lots lads get because they think they look good with them .

 

overated and lately people seem to think that every dog has to have bull in em to do stuff what bites back ? dont really get it tbh .

ive never seen a decent running one yet just feks everything up

 

 

i agree! cant turn, no wind, cut easy, headstrong, defo not any brain, strong thats it, beddys do same job as a mix. jmo. but i never seen a good one yet. for all you that own one. a clever dog doesnt get bit back. mines 11 year old still could do what anyones one here could do, hes a sal, grey, beddy, mix. good on long ears, on the bushy tails, on the big stuff, and can fill the freezer up with rabbits. Loadsa mates went to wales buying first x bulls, off so called good lines. Theyre crap. my old dog showed em up every time, alright for one bushy, then cut to pieces getting blood all on my seats trying to climb over my head to get in on a run allsorts. bull x are crap! they say bit of bull gives drive, a greyhound gives plenty of drive for any lurcher. beddys also have the rough coat to add to a lurcher too. Bulls x are smooth coated, big feet, dopey ugly, ignorant shite. that are knackered after running in a straight line for 3 mins TRYING to catch something they can only just about see. ha ha!

 

bigchief speak with forked tongue and narrowmind And your claim saying your 11 year old dog can do what anybodies on here can do just removes any credibility from your post!! Your synopsis of the breeds qualities, or lack of show that ignorance is bliss As bosun says there all lurchers, and if they were that bad they would of died out long ago, if you don't like a particular cross, its simple, dont own one!!! I wouldn't own a saluki or bedlington x but i don't feel the need to slate the cross or knock those that do....

 

 

I not knocking anyone that does own bull, as states this is JMO, narrow mind? Ive seen plenty run, never seen anything that justifys bringing a fighting dog to a lurcher/ or any running dog. JMO as this is a public forum, I am a member of the public and have right to MY Opinion, truth hurts simoman thats what this thread is about. the reason they wont die out is because people are convinced they have to be tough.

foxes are not tough, PRE BAN if dog is clever, waits for strike, gets it in right place, its dead WITHIN SECONDS, few shakes of the neck, theyre not that strong. got a nasty bite thats all, any decent allround lurcher would do this, no need for bull, unless they like to see dogs cut to pieces where they steam in and grab em up the arse, or first thing they grab, only for fox to natrurally turn and defend its self, theres not much to do, dogs are naturally stronger than foxes, no contest. As for my dog, hes 11, was retired at 8 yrs, still walk him though, dont leave in kennels to die after 8 yrs excellent service, if he decides to run a fox/rabbit/pheasent/hare, its up to him in his retirement, he was introduced to fox at 6 yrs when finished daytime long ears, he caught everyone i put him on easily if given right slip. Admittedly he wasnt fast at finishing them, but thats due to the way he was only run on things that dont bite back, he still wasnt bitten, hed let go, and get a better hold to neck , never never did he let them get far, used his head see, rather him do it in his own time than get his face mashed up or leg, also other day at 11 YEARS OLD got two long ears running free behind my house, complete accident. Thats a proper dog mate, SO PLEASE TELL ME WHY DOES MY POST HAVE NO CREDIBILITY.? would you rather your dog do it with or without getting hurt?

Bulls still feel the pain, Breeding bull x crap just in case they get bit is stupid, why? If your lurcher jacks you get another, if it cant kill cxharlie and you want it to, get another dont breed that lurcher that cant do it with bull, what a joke. A good rabbit dog wouldnt need bull, a hare dog doesnt need bull, its a recent thing in last 20-30 years from a new breed of hardcore fox killers that love to see a scrap. A good fox dog would learn/ evolve something bulls are not capable of doing. IMO. and yes alot of friends own them and yes they are still friends. JMO.

 

I await your response moderator. on a subject you obviously know more about than me, it would be intresting to hear your opinion. This meaning what a bull blood brings to a lurcher, that another existing mix doesnt? and why. as for running rabbits all bull does is take away qualities already within the breeding, of course they can catch rabbits, my staffy can catch em around my land, so should I breed her with a grey.? no. that would be stupid. as is breeding bulls. bull dogs are for fighting full stop. I realise alot of people own them I,m not stupid, and if anyone can give me a meaningful answer that makes sense then maybe They could show me, and I may change my opinion, I would admit I were wrong, no dramas.

totally agree

would like to see a dog that does six and seven fox a night!!

pics would be welcome too!!

over here where its still legall alot use collie or weathon x's very successfully on fox and there just as good at rabbits

they take em week in week out too.just ask scent on here

Sometimes doubled up,some runs singlehanded mate, I'm not saying the one dog doing it on it's own, but with all these other crosses mentioned,I had bull x for years lamping three nights at least for years,I brought my dog every night with other people, friends,my dog and a few friends bullx wer always keen,I've had other lurchers myself which wer good but the bullx have something else, just wat I seen mate.

[Red Collar 28]

your right lots lads get because they think they look good with them .

 

overated and lately people seem to think that every dog has to have bull in em to do stuff what bites back ? dont really get it tbh .

ive never seen a decent running one yet just feks everything up

 

 

i agree! cant turn, no wind, cut easy, headstrong, defo not any brain, strong thats it, beddys do same job as a mix. jmo. but i never seen a good one yet. for all you that own one. a clever dog doesnt get bit back. mines 11 year old still could do what anyones one here could do, hes a sal, grey, beddy, mix. good on long ears, on the bushy tails, on the big stuff, and can fill the freezer up with rabbits. Loadsa mates went to wales buying first x bulls, off so called good lines. Theyre crap. my old dog showed em up every time, alright for one bushy, then cut to pieces getting blood all on my seats trying to climb over my head to get in on a run allsorts. bull x are crap! they say bit of bull gives drive, a greyhound gives plenty of drive for any lurcher. beddys also have the rough coat to add to a lurcher too. Bulls x are smooth coated, big feet, dopey ugly, ignorant shite. that are knackered after running in a straight line for 3 mins TRYING to catch something they can only just about see. ha ha!

 

bigchief speak with forked tongue and narrowmind And your claim saying your 11 year old dog can do what anybodies on here can do just removes any credibility from your post!! Your synopsis of the breeds qualities, or lack of show that ignorance is bliss As bosun says there all lurchers, and if they were that bad they would of died out long ago, if you don't like a particular cross, its simple, dont own one!!! I wouldn't own a saluki or bedlington x but i don't feel the need to slate the cross or knock those that do....

 

 

I not knocking anyone that does own bull, as states this is JMO, narrow mind? Ive seen plenty run, never seen anything that justifys bringing a fighting dog to a lurcher/ or any running dog. JMO as this is a public forum, I am a member of the public and have right to MY Opinion, truth hurts simoman thats what this thread is about. the reason they wont die out is because people are convinced they have to be tough.

foxes are not tough, PRE BAN if dog is clever, waits for strike, gets it in right place, its dead WITHIN SECONDS, few shakes of the neck, theyre not that strong. got a nasty bite thats all, any decent allround lurcher would do this, no need for bull, unless they like to see dogs cut to pieces where they steam in and grab em up the arse, or first thing they grab, only for fox to natrurally turn and defend its self, theres not much to do, dogs are naturally stronger than foxes, no contest. As for my dog, hes 11, was retired at 8 yrs, still walk him though, dont leave in kennels to die after 8 yrs excellent service, if he decides to run a fox/rabbit/pheasent/hare, its up to him in his retirement, he was introduced to fox at 6 yrs when finished daytime long ears, he caught everyone i put him on easily if given right slip. Admittedly he wasnt fast at finishing them, but thats due to the way he was only run on things that dont bite back, he still wasnt bitten, hed let go, and get a better hold to neck , never never did he let them get far, used his head see, rather him do it in his own time than get his face mashed up or leg, also other day at 11 YEARS OLD got two long ears running free behind my house, complete accident. Thats a proper dog mate, SO PLEASE TELL ME WHY DOES MY POST HAVE NO CREDIBILITY.? would you rather your dog do it with or without getting hurt?

Bulls still feel the pain, Breeding bull x crap just in case they get bit is stupid, why? If your lurcher jacks you get another, if it cant kill cxharlie and you want it to, get another dont breed that lurcher that cant do it with bull, what a joke. A good rabbit dog wouldnt need bull, a hare dog doesnt need bull, its a recent thing in last 20-30 years from a new breed of hardcore fox killers that love to see a scrap. A good fox dog would learn/ evolve something bulls are not capable of doing. IMO. and yes alot of friends own them and yes they are still friends. JMO.

 

I await your response moderator. on a subject you obviously know more about than me, it would be intresting to hear your opinion. This meaning what a bull blood brings to a lurcher, that another existing mix doesnt? and why. as for running rabbits all bull does is take away qualities already within the breeding, of course they can catch rabbits, my staffy can catch em around my land, so should I breed her with a grey.? no. that would be stupid. as is breeding bulls. bull dogs are for fighting full stop. I realise alot of people own them I,m not stupid, and if anyone can give me a meaningful answer that makes sense then maybe They could show me, and I may change my opinion, I would admit I were wrong, no dramas.

totally agree

would like to see a dog that does six and seven fox a night!!

pics would be welcome too!!

over here where its still legall alot use collie or weathon x's very successfully on fox and there just as good at rabbits

they take em week in week out too.just ask scent on here

Sometimes doubled up,some runs singlehanded mate, I'm not saying the one dog doing it on it's own, but with all these other crosses mentioned,I had bull x for years lamping three nights at least for years,I brought my dog every night with other people, friends,my dog and a few friends bullx wer always keen,I've had other lurchers myself which wer good but the bullx have something else, just wat I seen mate.

Ps I'd love to show me photos but there on them paper fotos not memory card.