mickdog 0 Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 can any one give me tips on retrieving as my dog plays up once caught Quote Link to post
Guest game'dogs Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 as said above ! but i will add this , some of the best hare dogs in the country wouldnt retreive and wouldnt know how to ! if its a retrevier you want then thats the breed you want and need to get but ! would a retreiver run down its quary and then take it back to hand ? as said in a thred about training you need to put the basics in at a erly age and work it from there , to meny dogs on the same quary make a good dog bad on retreiving . Quote Link to post
juckler123 707 Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 If he is holding his catch try walking away from him and as he is coming towards you squat down if at night switch the lamp off and call it in if he is killing and leaving em try and get him used to playing with a rabbit skin dummy be patient and never lose your temper and as terrier man says above all try and learn the dog on its own might take a bit of time to crack it but theres very few that cant be taught to retrieve i used to take dogs off the travellers round our way that wouldnt carry and managed to get most of em to carry back Quote Link to post
Guest Frank Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 A dog that does not retriev, is a pain, as if it courses a hare and catches it 2 feilds away, without you seeing where it was killed, how will you know where the feck it is, if the dog does not come back with it. Keep at it, but do it whilst the dog is on its own and dont bore it, little and often. Frank. Quote Link to post
Ray Mears 272 Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 my dog will only retrive if she is on her own if there is another dog there your fecked Quote Link to post
tote 856 Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 can any one give me tips on retrieving as my dog plays up once caught Mickdog you need to give us more information. 1..what age is the dog? 2..is it just you and him when your out? 3..how good was he at retrieving dummies? 4..how many rabbits has he caught? 5..what does he do when he catches the rabbit? Quote Link to post
Guest Lurchers2006 Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Mickdog you need to give us more information. 1..what age is the dog? 2..is it just you and him when your out? 3..how good was he at retrieving dummies? 4..how many rabbits has he caught? 5..what does he do when he catches the rabbit? Sorry for jumping the thread mickdog but maybe i could get some help on this to. 1..what age is the dog? 14 months 2..is it just you and him when your out? Normally another person 3..how good was he at retrieving dummies? ok not too bad, 4..how many rabbits has he caught? Over a 100 5..what does he do when he catches the rabbit? He holds it for a minute, then leaves it there and comes back?? Sorry for jumping your thread again Mickdog, Quote Link to post
tote 856 Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 "Quote-lurchers2006" 1..what age is the dog? 14 months 2..is it just you and him when your out? Normally another person 3..how good was he at retrieving dummies? ok not too bad, 4..how many rabbits has he caught? Over a 100 5..what does he do when he catches the rabbit? He holds it for a minute, then leaves it there and comes back?? Sorry for jumping your thread again Mickdog, At 14 months he's still young so I reckon you've got a good chance that you will be able to get him to retrieve,but you will definatley have to go back to basics.And that for me means no more live game in the mean time. Get the dog back onto the dummy,just a handfull of retrieves a day,but make sure you do it everyday when you're satisfied that he is bringing it back properly move onto a rabbit skin dummy and continue the process.When you're happy with that the next step is a [cold] dead rabbit, Use a whole rabbit not a gutted one,this is when it can sometimes go wrong.It's not unusual for the dog to run out to the rabbit then when it picks it up it might 1..drop it and return to you. 2..shake it,play with it or throw it up in the air. 3..run off with it. Expect one or all of these to happen and just remain calm,call it a day and try again the next day. Eventually the dog will get used to it's new dummy [the cold rabbit] and will retrieve it. The next step is to use a freshly killed rabbit [warm rabbit] do not use a rabbit with blood on it. Again you will go through the same process as above,eventually the dog will get used to the warm rabbit and will bring it back without any fuss.Always stay calm and praise the dog profusely when it completes a retrieve.Never ever shout or raise your voice to the dog during retrieve training.As dogs being simple animals will associate this scolding with the act of retrieving and will not return to you. Once again when you are completely happy with the dogs retrieve of the warm rabbit you can move on to the next step. This entails giving the dog some warm retrieves out in the field, one a day is plenty.The easiest way to do this is with the lamp,plant the rabbit in the field as if it's a squatter then go back and get the dog from the car then lamp the rabbit,persevere with this untill the dog is fetching it back every time. When you do take him back out after live stuff it's better if it's just you and the dog,at least untill he gets the hang of retrieving his rabbits. All the way through the training process it's most important that the dog does not get the chance to chase and maybe catch live game as this could scupper all your good work. I hope this helps. You will probably read this in 2 minutes,it's took me 30 minutes to type it [one finger typist] Quote Link to post
Guest Lurchers2006 Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 "Quote-lurchers2006"1..what age is the dog? 14 months 2..is it just you and him when your out? Normally another person 3..how good was he at retrieving dummies? ok not too bad, 4..how many rabbits has he caught? Over a 100 5..what does he do when he catches the rabbit? He holds it for a minute, then leaves it there and comes back?? Sorry for jumping your thread again Mickdog, At 14 months he's still young so I reckon you've got a good chance that you will be able to get him to retrieve,but you will definatley have to go back to basics.And that for me means no more live game in the mean time. Get the dog back onto the dummy,just a handfull of retrieves a day,but make sure you do it everyday when you're satisfied that he is bringing it back properly move onto a rabbit skin dummy and continue the process.When you're happy with that the next step is a [cold] dead rabbit, Use a whole rabbit not a gutted one,this is when it can sometimes go wrong.It's not unusual for the dog to run out to the rabbit then when it picks it up it might 1..drop it and return to you. 2..shake it,play with it or throw it up in the air. 3..run off with it. Expect one or all of these to happen and just remain calm,call it a day and try again the next day. Eventually the dog will get used to it's new dummy [the cold rabbit] and will retrieve it. The next step is to use a freshly killed rabbit [warm rabbit] do not use a rabbit with blood on it. Again you will go through the same process as above,eventually the dog will get used to the warm rabbit and will bring it back without any fuss.Always stay calm and praise the dog profusely when it completes a retrieve.Never ever shout or raise your voice to the dog during retrieve training.As dogs being simple animals will associate this scolding with the act of retrieving and will not return to you. Once again when you are completely happy with the dogs retrieve of the warm rabbit you can move on to the next step. This entails giving the dog some warm retrieves out in the field, one a day is plenty.The easiest way to do this is with the lamp,plant the rabbit in the field as if it's a squatter then go back and get the dog from the car then lamp the rabbit,persevere with this untill the dog is fetching it back every time. When you do take him back out after live stuff it's better if it's just you and the dog,at least untill he gets the hang of retrieving his rabbits. All the way through the training process it's most important that the dog does not get the chance to chase and maybe catch live game as this could scupper all your good work. I hope this helps. You will probably read this in 2 minutes,it's took me 30 minutes to type it [one finger typist] Thanks tote thats good advice there, Quote Link to post
mickdog 0 Posted January 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 my dog is about 13 months old he's had about 10 rabbits on the lamp have always been out with friend and his dog as he has the permission on the land.my dog has quite a good recall untill he has caught the rabbit and tends to playfully run around with the rabbit. Quote Link to post
tote 856 Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 my dog is about 13 months old he's had about 10 rabbits on the lamp have always been out with friend and his dog as he has the permission on the land.my dog has quite a good recall untill he has caught the rabbit and tends to playfully run around with the rabbit. After reading your reply above mickdog I would say you are in a better position than lurchers2006, at least your dog is carrying the rabbit about a bit. Mickdog what was he like at retrieving dummies? Quote Link to post
mickdog 0 Posted January 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 not to bad tote Quote Link to post
tote 856 Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Keep training him with the different dummies mate,i'm sure you'll get there. But first try taking him out by himself,no other dogs or people.If it's your mates permission i'm sure he'll help you out,there's a good chance the dog will retrieve his catch if there are no distractions. The way it works is your dog has just caught a rabbit,which is his prize for a good course,now if he's used to bringing his dummies back to you it should be a formality. But,and it's a big but your dog knows that the other dog is somewhere near you back there in the darkness and doesn't want to risk the other dog taking it off him.The good thing with your dog is he doesn't want to give his prize up so ends up circling you not knowing what to do,it's called jelous retrieving,take the other dog out of the equasion and see how you get on. Good luck. Quote Link to post
juckler123 707 Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Top replies them tote Quote Link to post
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