.204 re barrel

[sako 23]

I use a 22-250 on fox with a lamp for the longer shots. I've got a night vision add on which isn't recommended for any thing larger than a 223. When looking through the nv it's very hard to judge distance so I want the flattest shooting hardest hitting rifle for use with my nv out to 200-maybe 250 yrds for fox.

[jamie g 17]

you dont want to be shooting anything higher then 40 grain bullets in a 204 as the guy above said you. you are going against what the caliber is made for. shooting light rounds fast and flat. i also wouldnt want a rifle to heavy if your putting nv on it.

 

if you want a 1 in 11 twist barrel on a 20 caliber border barrels price is alot of money you would be better off looking for a used 20 tac. not only would it be cheaper then the price border barrels gave you. but also would more then likely come with 1 in 11 twist. as most people who have them built want to make sure they shoot the 40 vmax.

 

the 39 blizking has a better bc so im told. i no where there is a custom rpa for cheaper then sako money in 204. use the 32's and 39 blizkings in it and it will be deadly for what you want. the only thing that might put you off is the weight. which when using nv you dont really want it to heavy imo

 

if shooting off bipod from 4x4 then thats no problem. if shooting off sticks walking abotu then it will become heavy

[sako 23]

I see your point jamie! perhaps I'll forget the varmint barrel Im always on foot. I find the quad and 4x4 tend to send the fox a calling card letting them know Im on my way! Unless it's when there's cubs about then I could use a tractor.

[sako 23]

What's your opinions on the lengths of the barrel on the 204? a sako is 23.62 inches and a remmington is 26 inch both (varmint). Does it make any difference to accuracy or help with the weight of bullet?

[Deker 3,478]

What's your opinions on the lengths of the barrel on the 204? a sako is 23.62 inches and a remmington is 26 inch both (varmint). Does it make any difference to accuracy or help with the weight of bullet?

 

 

Long barrels are essential to get the best out of the .204, what difference their will be between the two above I know not, but getting a .204 and chopping the barrel short is counter productive!

[sako 23]

Oh great! I had just about decided on the sako

[RicW 67]

Optimal performance from a .204? 26" heavy barrel, ~40gr bullets, accurate 1/11 twist.

[sako 23]

Optimal performance from a .204? 26" heavy barrel, ~40gr bullets, accurate 1/11 twist.

 

You say optimal but do you think it will make that much difference shooting foxes 250yrds and less with a 32g?

Im thinking of the sako as I like the feel of them. Im thinking Im going to just try the lighter bullet with the sako with 1 in 12 and then if it doesn't work get on the phone to border barrels.

Do you need to vary your fac to change a barrel of the same calibre?

[Deker 3,478]

Optimal performance from a .204? 26" heavy barrel, ~40gr bullets, accurate 1/11 twist.

 

You say optimal but do you think it will make that much difference shooting foxes 250yrds and less with a 32g?

Im thinking of the sako as I like the feel of them. Im thinking Im going to just try the lighter bullet with the sako with 1 in 12 and then if it doesn't work get on the phone to border barrels.

Do you need to vary your fac to change a barrel of the same calibre?

 

 

Sako

 

Am I getting confused, if I understand your responses correctly you are only looking at a .204 because your night vision is not rated for above .223, therefore not suggested on your 22-250

 

I'm getting lost, you are now talking about chucking in your 22-250 for a .204 and then spending another £600+ for a new barrel if it doesn't work. Why don't you just forget it all, keep what you have and trade in the Night Vision?

 

I'd take a 22-250 any day over a .204 for long range foxes!

 

[sako 23]

Sako

 

Am I getting confused, if I understand your responses correctly you are only looking at a .204 because your night vision is not rated for above .223, therefore not suggested on your 22-250

 

I'm getting lost, you are now talking about chucking in your 22-250 for a .204 and then spending another £600+ for a new barrel if it doesn't work. Why don't you just forget it all, keep what you have and trade in the Night Vision?

 

I'd take a 22-250 any day over a .204 for long range foxes!

 

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Let me try and clarify things Im confused myself!

 

I HAD two 22-250's the one couldn't be fitted with a mod and had way to much kick for nv so wasn't really getting used so.... I traded in that 22-250 so I could vary my fac for 204 for free, one for one

I now have a 22-250 with mod and great scope for LAMPING foxes and shooting long range.

I now want a .204???? I think for using with night vision when Im out alone waiting and calling foxes or for shooting lamp shy ones under 250yrds. Instead of the traded in 22-250 I'll still have 1 22-250.So basically I've been trying to get the best 204 which I can afford which suits my needs. Although I've only got a couple of days to get the variation back to definately decide 204.

 

Im now thinking I'll go for a sako 204 but the twist of 1 in 12 seems to slow for the 40g bullet so I've emailed border barrels and they will fit a 1 in 10 to the sako if required. The sako is also shorter than the reme and ruger so I want to try the barrel length to see how I get on with the length before I think about getting a faster longer barrel.

 

That's where Im at right now, but I am going to the shop this afternon so all could change by tonight.

I'd like to thank everyone for their input as it's been very helpful and educational. I hope this clears things up as I am pretty bad at explaining myself with the written word.

Edited February 26, 2011 by sako

[Deker 3,478]

Sako

 

Am I getting confused, if I understand your responses correctly you are only looking at a .204 because your night vision is not rated for above .223, therefore not suggested on your 22-250

 

I'm getting lost, you are now talking about chucking in your 22-250 for a .204 and then spending another £600+ for a new barrel if it doesn't work. Why don't you just forget it all, keep what you have and trade in the Night Vision?

 

I'd take a 22-250 any day over a .204 for long range foxes!

 

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Let me try and clarify things Im confused myself!

 

I HAD two 22-250's the one couldn't be fitted with a mod and had way to much kick for nv so wasn't really getting used so.... I traded in that 22-250 so I could vary my fac for 204 for free, one for one

I now have a 22-250 with mod and great scope for LAMPING foxes and shooting long range.

I now want a .204???? I think for using with night vision when Im out alone waiting and calling foxes or for shooting lamp shy ones under 250yrds. Instead of the traded in 22-250 I'll still have 1 22-250.So basically I've been trying to get the best 204 which I can afford which suits my needs. Although I've only got a couple of days to get the variation back to definately decide 204.

 

Im now thinking I'll go for a sako 204 but the twist of 1 in 12 seems to slow for the 40g bullet so I've emailed border barrels and they will fit a 1 in 10 to the sako if required. The sako is also shorter than the reme and ruger so I want to try the barrel length to see how I get on with the length before I think about getting a faster longer barrel.

 

That's where Im at right now, but I am going to the shop this afternon so all could change by tonight.

I'd like to thank everyone for their input as it's been very helpful and educational. I hope this clears things up as I am pretty bad at explaining myself with the written word.

 

 

I will be fascinated to hear how this saga turns out!

 

ATB!

[sako 23]

Wait no longer! The saga turns out it's a 9 month wait for a sako. I decided I wasn't going to wait that long so it's a remington 700 vssf II varmint stainless on order. It's 26 inch so I should get the most out of the round for speed and accuracy and with the barrel being that long if the guns shiite I can hit the fox over the head with it. I just figured I may as well try the calibre to see how it performs in my hands that said I didn't like the feel of a vsf I tried in the shop but I'll give it ago. If it doesn't do what I want I'll just vary again and just risk the nv on a new 22-250. THE END: (Unless the guns useless or amazing then I'll be back to report!)

[RicW 67]

Good choice! The Remi 700 may not be the best "out of the box" but it is the dog's dodgy bits for tuning and tweaking. Pretty good to start with any way. A lot of people in the States started with a Remi, moved to a different action, got peed off and ended up back with a Remi! It strikes me as one of those things you can't predict. The Remi action just works with the .204.

 

Keep us posted.

 

ATB, Ric

[sako 23]

Thanks ricW! I think Im optimistic for this rifle. My only concern is the trigger but I suppose that's easily sorted!

[RicW 67]

Thanks ricW! I think Im optimistic for this rifle. My only concern is the trigger but I suppose that's easily sorted!

 

 

Yup. Jewell.