Pre-Ban

[comanche 3,032]

Ideation hit the nail on the head when he mentioned teamwork. A couple of dogs that learn to work well together will often develop a pattern of behaviour when on quarrythat uses their respective talents to advantage .

 

You know when you have a bit of a team because when the quarry is caught one dog will back down and let the other retrieve it without any jealousy yet both dogs will come to hand as proudly as each other .

 

Pre ban.

In coursing to rules a fast dog might make a spectacular run-up and a crafty or slow dog might pick up a confused hare but the better dog was judged to be the one that put in the work . The dog that turned,tripped and out-manouvered the hare was the winner even if the hare ended up in the other dog's mouth.

 

On the other hand some (and I'm with em ) would say that a lurcher's-as opposed to a coursing dog's- job is to put meat on the table by almost any means and a bit of shifty footwork and quick-wittedness often wins the day.

 

There is no right or wrong answer .It depends on whether the owner is looking to enjoy flashy and agile dog work or is only concerned with meat in the pot.

I'd guess that for most of us the answer falls as a combination of both depending on how desperate for something for the pot we are on the day ..

Edited February 14, 2011 by comanche

[Penda 3,341]

I agree with people on here in the past when i have doubled up dogs on quarry pre ban 2 dogs that have been worked regular together will rely on each other too run the quarry into each other, my mate had a collie bull greyhound who used to work the quarry so the my half cross bitch would catch it she did tackle quarry though on her own but i think that bit of collie made her abit clever and like i say she would use the other dog to her advantage

[Guest paceandstamina]

regarding hares, they should not be ran with 2 dogs. i can`t believe that people on here even consider it ! if your dog can`t catch a hare, then get a dog that can ! or leave them alone so people with proper dogs can run them.

if you did that in the company i run with ,you would not be out with them again, and get yourself a very bad name.

[BEARINATOR 2,869]

regarding hares, they should not be ran with 2 dogs. i can`t believe that people on here even consider it ! if your dog can`t catch a hare, then get a dog that can ! or leave them alone so people with proper dogs can run them.

if you did that in the company i run with ,you would not be out with them again, and get yourself a very bad name.

 

Hares should be ran by either 1 or 2 dogs, there is no rules as such with lurchers. I've got a saluki cross pup and he will get tried by himself and doubled up when he is older. There is no such thing as a proper dog for them as all crosses can and will catch them. I've got a bad name anyway so I'm not bothered what you say

[Guest paceandstamina]

regarding hares, they should not be ran with 2 dogs. i can`t believe that people on here even consider it ! if your dog can`t catch a hare, then get a dog that can ! or leave them alone so people with proper dogs can run them.

if you did that in the company i run with ,you would not be out with them again, and get yourself a very bad name.

 

Hares should be ran by either 1 or 2 dogs, there is no rules as such with lurchers. I've got a saluki cross pup and he will get tried by himself and doubled up when he is older. There is no such thing as a proper dog for them as all crosses can and will catch them. I've got a bad name anyway so I'm not bothered what you say

 

 

well you deserve your bad name, and you`ll never have a dog worth a mention

[BEARINATOR 2,869]

Had plenty of good dogs mate, just not in to big names or bragging the dogs can do this or that

[toby1066 413]

1 dog 1 hare.

good topic though 2 dogs running is a team effort and you dont see the real ability of either dog run them on their own to see what you got

[Guest paceandstamina]

Had plenty of good dogs mate, just not in to big names or bragging the dogs can do this or that

 

you`v never seen a good dog if you run 2 together, and wouldn`t know the difference between a good and weak hare

[BEARINATOR 2,869]

Who said I ran 2 together all the time? The fen dogs wouldn't catch on the small fields I do but the dogs I've seen running on them wouldn't make the grade on the fens My best day pre-ban was 9 and if I had ran the other dog with him it would of been double figures but it was simply pest control and not sport

[Guest paceandstamina]

Who said I ran 2 together all the time? The fen dogs wouldn't catch on the small fields I do but the dogs I've seen running on them wouldn't make the grade on the fens My best day pre-ban was 9 and if I had ran the other dog with him it would of been double figures but it was simply pest control and not sport

 

 

i agree, definately not sport. just killing, that`s why you have a bad name, f*****g bullshit, what i`d expect from you

[Ideation 8,216]

Right you lot, get over yourselves and stop ruining one of the rare interesting threads on here. Congratulations that your dog can catch a hare on its own, but its hardley an exclusive group, and to be fair its getting dull and repetative. If you want to moan, start your own thread. Also. . . . who said we were talking hares here?

 

On some of the land that we run you would catch far far far less quarry with only one dog. Not that we are slipping more than one dog, the dogs work loose and are expected to hunt up their quarry from some very tough cover on very hard land, they then must run it trying to avoid getting wiped out on the various obstructions, and trying to keep the quarry away from saftey. Often one dog is above the other running the quarry down the mountainside into the second dog, or one dog going going up or down to turn the quarry back as the other cuts across to put itself in the uarrys new path after the turn. I've also witnessed dogs seemingly run off line, with one flat out behind the quarry and the second running to put itself between the quarry and where its heading.It does tend to be the young dog that does the legwork, while the older dog does the head work. It's also interesting watching dogs of different breeding/size/shape working together to use their skills to the best to make a catch.

 

Just remember not everyone runs land thats like a tabletop.

[stabba 10,745]

Right you lot, get over yourselves and stop ruining one of the rare interesting threads on here. Congratulations that your dog can catch a hare on its own, but its hardley an exclusive group, and to be fair its getting dull and repetative. If you want to moan, start your own thread. Also. . . . who said we were talking hares here?

 

On some of the land that we run you would catch far far far less quarry with only one dog. Not that we are slipping more than one dog, the dogs work loose and are expected to hunt up their quarry from some very tough cover on very hard land, they then must run it trying to avoid getting wiped out on the various obstructions, and trying to keep the quarry away from saftey. Often one dog is above the other running the quarry down the mountainside into the second dog, or one dog going going up or down to turn the quarry back as the other cuts across to put itself in the uarrys new path after the turn. I've also witnessed dogs seemingly run off line, with one flat out behind the quarry and the second running to put itself between the quarry and where its heading.It does tend to be the young dog that does the legwork, while the older dog does the head work. It's also interesting watching dogs of different breeding/size/shape working together to use their skills to the best to make a catch.

 

Just remember not everyone runs land thats like a tabletop.

Well said mate

[hedz31 1,308]

I had a bitch and a dog from the same litter (bitch was stolen still have the dog)they were vermin dogs mainly but did fairly well on deer they were both single handed dogs in there own right but got doubled up often to get the numbers up and the bitch always caught 1st when doubled up simply because she was a faster animal 9 times out of 10 she would always hit a fox first,i never once saw her brother sit back and let her turn anything into him his prey drive simply wouldnt let him hold back and let that happen

regards hedz

[border lad 1,047]

I have seen a good pair work together, the bitch, grey/whippet 25" she was fast, but was very poor at striking, and picking up,

she belonged to the Late Danny Brennan, but also had very good stamina, the other one was a F1 x colli/greyhound,26" - again belonged to

the late Ted Cooper, what a clever dog, again had endless stamina, those pair of dogs over 3 or 4 years running together, caught a truck load of Hares, that was back in the late 60s early 70s Myself I prefere my dog to run single handed, and I have had a few that could do there job well,

A fast dog that can change his gears, and strike, carry back to hand, were possible,

[pistol pete01 25]

me and black recking it use to get a lend a an old boys german shepard and take it with the lurcher pre ban we would put the germam shepard in the trees to put deer out the german shepard would start barking when he got on them in the trees the lurcher would run to where thay were going to brake and have them in the open soon as that german shepard came out thay trees never let another peep out he had 1 or 2 him self them runing into fences and things it was good team work lurcher would do trees him self if german shepard wasent there but wouldent go in when he was there it was if thay new what job was theres