martin fx 0 Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 Hi have just brought my first pcp ! very new to pcp shooting just moved up for springs and got a new fx cyclone .22. A lovely bit of kit,I have a bottle to fill it up with and may be having some trouble i think filling it up like i said new to it all, looked thought the information and a bit confused still, have a regulated gauge on the gun says in the information that the cyclone are fitted with a regulator as standard and that the gauge will only read the regulated pressure, which can vary from -110 bar. To fill the pressure on the gun must be read off the charging kit or the optional tube fitted gauge assembly. My questions are : does the gauge only ever read -110 pressure coz its regulated on the gun ( not sure what that means ) ? i have filled the gun from the bottle gauge to read 180 ish but gun gauge still reads . will it go upto 180 on the gun ? So did i fill the gun with air ? yes it still shoots but had air in gun to start with from new , will gauge on gun fall below then have to fill it ? and can i just top it up every 60 shots or so to 190 on bottle gauge will this blow seals in gun if has say had 100 bar in gun and fill it up from bottle to read 190 would this mean had 290 bar in gun which is to much ?... Please help new to pcp and dont want to blow up my new gun or me . lol. many thanks martin. Quote Link to post
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 (edited) ... error Mole got wrong post... Edited February 12, 2011 by secretagentmole Quote Link to post
martin fx 0 Posted February 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 ok thanks , so i did hear a popping sound was that telling me the gun was to filled up ? will gun only ever read on gun gauge ? we it go down or up ever ? and is it ok to fill up gun till it pops each time to let me know filled ? any help would be great thanks for quick reply. cheers. Quote Link to post
andyfr1968 772 Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 ... error Mole got wrong post... One of these days, Mole, your 'advice' is going to get someone into trouble or hurt. Like I've said before, if you don't know, keep quiet Quote Link to post
andyfr1968 772 Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 Hi, Martin. Someone will be along soon who knows what they're talking about Welcome to the forum, mate. Cheers. Quote Link to post
martin fx 0 Posted February 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 (edited) Thanks any help be gd like you said dont what to get hurt by blowing myself up . lol. Edited February 12, 2011 by martin fx Quote Link to post
Rake aboot 4,936 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Right where to start ? Regulated. This generally means that the action is regulated. The gun will deliver the same amount of air (same power) shot after shot until the bottle is about empty, then just stop shooting,,the power curve will be flat rather than drop off with a drop in bottle pressure,,Does this make sence to you?? if not I will try to explain it better! Charging issues. The gauges on most guns are pretty crappy. the one on my Daystate never reads below 80/100 bar!. When charging there is a popping sound as the fill valve pressurises, then I fill to the pressure on the fill gauge, the gun gauge is usually the same after 120bar or so. I would suspect that if your gun gauge stays at bar or so ,it may be faulty ,cheap fix, BUT make sure your charging kit is properly connected up. it is possible that your charge air is not getting into the gun,the bottle/charging kit gauge will go up but the gun will stay the same(ie ,just the charging line is pressurising,,not the gun) From what I can make out from your post,,this last line sounds the most likely to me. Make sure everything is connected up correctly to allow the air into the gun. I suspect this all sounds like gobleydygook but if it does, let me know and I`ll try and explain better. (even if it means giving you a call tomorrow if you like!) ATB 1 Quote Link to post
martin fx 0 Posted February 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Yes i did under stand a bit of that and a bit of gobleydygook, lol , like i said new to pcp, kit connected to bottle ok air come out of line ok , connect line to gun turn on gauge from bottle air comes out gauge on bottle goes up, gun gauge stay same then pop, and i stopped didnt what to blow seals ? that the line pressurising ? then fill gun up ? what if gun has 100 bar in and i fill 190 on bottle gauge that blow up gun got 290 in gun only take 200 ish, thanks very much for help and kind offer of call that may help, cheers, Quote Link to post
Rake aboot 4,936 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 AAHHH!! right when you start to charge up the line will "POP" this is everything settling into place,, you then have to open the bottle further to let the pressure in the gun build up. If it feels uncomfortable then stop and come back to us. Will give you a call like I say, if you need it. Let us know how you get on bud 1 Quote Link to post
andyfr1968 772 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 There you go, Martin. Advice from someone who knows one end of an airgun from the other!! Cheers. Quote Link to post
martin fx 0 Posted February 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 super star man , will try that like i said new gun first time fill all new didnt want to break it, when it popped not total sure if line but think so! gun gauge never moved so did know if air going in ? bottle gauge kept going up didnt like to go much above 180 ish for first fill , can you answer this quick question before gets to late: if gun has 100 bar in and i kept trying to fill 190 on bottle gauge will that blow up gun got 290 in gun only take 200 ish,,, thanks ever so much for help and i post tomorrow if it going wrong for more help , cheers Quote Link to post
andyfr1968 772 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Mate, I'm no expert on PCPs by a long way but one thing I will say is if you're not sure, leave it be until you've got all the info from someone who knows the score. If 100+ bar goes tits up, you're going to hurt something. BADLY!!! Wait for some proper advice, mate Cheers. Quote Link to post
martin fx 0 Posted February 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 yeah thanks , i thought so thats why i stop trying this afternoon and asked for help i wait till i am total sure, thanks for all of the help Quote Link to post
Rake aboot 4,936 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Ey up Morning all! If the line "POPS" into place ,then you continue to fill,, the bottle gauge goes up,and the gun gauge doesn`t,,,it sounds like the fill valve is not letting the air into the gun. All you will be charging is the line. You should be venting this off to allow you to disconnect ?yes ? if it wont fill the gun, get it looked at by someone in the know, Gunshop/gunsmith etc Just be safe and remember that the pressures involved are huge!. You shouldn`t be afraid to fill the gun ,or at least try and get it to fill, but If you are really uncomfortable with it,,no amount off online advise from me will help,, get it to someone who will sort you out bud. Hope you manage to get it sorted ,and let us know how you get on,, once your sorted you`ll love it. ATB Quote Link to post
millsy44 72 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Gun shop for me mate, get them to go through the process with you a few times and dont leave until your 100% confident in the filling process, good luck mate Quote Link to post
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