jmilam08 193 Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 (edited) Took the gun the other day to get it charged,went to get it out the bag and it's empty? Iv had ut refilled since and it holds for hours but must have a slighteak somewhere,can't hear no air escaping frm around where the Bottle screws in,took the bottle of and the ring seems alright,I wouldn't no though as ain't had any experiance of theis before. Would they be completly split or perferated for it to leak or does it only take a small amount of damage for It to start letting by.i don't wana take it in the gun shop and him instany say it's the o rings pay for him to mess about and still have to send it away for a proper service. Edited February 11, 2011 by jmilam08 Quote Link to post
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Simple idea, take the bottle off when you have finished using it, also examine all visible o rings, such as the bottle seal and see if you can spot any damage there... Quote Link to post
jmilam08 193 Posted February 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Read the post again mate that's way iv done. Quote Link to post
jmilam08 193 Posted February 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 What I want to no is is it foes the o ring on the bottle thread have to be completely split and perferatedto let air by,or is it possible for airto escape from the quick fill hole of maybe a bit of grit or stone is wedged in there,or could the gauge be letting by any were,iv got no experiance at this,I'm still waiting till iv got tome to get it in for a proper service so don't wana waste paying out for the bloke in my gunshop playing about with it [bANNED TEXT] I could wait and get it tenched In one hit. Not even sure if he deals with leaks???? Quote Link to post
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Have you taken the bottle off the gun and stored it separately? If you have done that and the bottle is losing pressure then not a gun problem ok? Quote Link to post
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Would not have thought grit would hold the quick fill valve open. O rings can perish, how old is it? It could be hard and cracked, but if it looks ok probably is! Quote Link to post
millsy44 72 Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Wierd you should say this mate, i charged my S10 last week, put 210barr in the bottle, went out for a few hours, came in and for some reason decided to dry fire the gun, it sounded quiet so i took the buddy bottle off and connected the pump, and from 210barr it was down to 90barr, just by sitting there i charged it back up and it held its charge, i dont have a clue what happened. Quote Link to post
jmilam08 193 Posted February 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Nope ain't done that I havmt got my own bottle to fill it up so don't wana keep payon 3.50 to get it filled and tryin it all seperatley I'm trying to work out all the areas were it could be lleaking air through and pinpoint the leak. Quote Link to post
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Well removing the bottle from the gun can help you spot if it is a bottle problem or a gun problem! Quote Link to post
jmilam08 193 Posted February 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Wierd you should say this mate, i charged my S10 last week, put 210barr in the bottle, went out for a few hours, came in and for some reason decided to dry fire the gun, it sounded quiet so i took the buddy bottle off and connected the pump, and from 210barr it was down to 90barr, just by sitting there i charged it back up and it held its charge, i dont have a clue what happened. Quote Link to post
millsy44 72 Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Wierd you should say this mate, i charged my S10 last week, put 210barr in the bottle, went out for a few hours, came in and for some reason decided to dry fire the gun, it sounded quiet so i took the buddy bottle off and connected the pump, and from 210barr it was down to 90barr, just by sitting there i charged it back up and it held its charge, i dont have a clue what happened. When i say i went out, i dont mean i went out shooting with it lol just out in general, just incase u were thinking "well if you went out with it, its gunna be down on pressure" haha awww god ive confused myself Quote Link to post
jmilam08 193 Posted February 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 (edited) It's a nightmare ain't it,I went to a doffrent bloke to fill my gun up as the other shop sold ther charging hear and the new bloke told me that u could fill the r10 right up to it's maximum bar fill.wernt to sure as I ways thouht to fill it to 200,but he done this basicly without my permision and now it ain't holding a charge,might be a coincindence I ain't got a clue,all I no is it's f*****g annoying. Edited February 11, 2011 by jmilam08 Quote Link to post
matt_hooks 188 Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 All the valves etc. are designed to take a fairly significant over-pressure, so the chance of him having damaged anything significant is small. It does rather sound like he hasn't really got a clue though, which could mean he's inadvertently done some damage to the seals or valves. Modern air rifles "sweet spot" around the recommended fill pressure. That's why it's recommended. Yes, you CAN fill it to the max, but all this achieves is to reduce the power level and cause inaccuracy and variation, until the pressure falls to the sweet spot. The O-rings could leak if they are damaged. It doesn't have to be visible, though normally a crushed or trapped o-ring will show some sign of damage. If you don't know what you're doing, I would definitely not recommend trying to strip it and do work yourself. The pressures involved are ridiculously dangerous if you don't handle them properly. Even if most of the pressure is relieved, 20 or 30 bar (about a tenth of the full pressure) can easily kill if handled wrong. Quote Link to post
jmilam08 193 Posted February 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Nope I ain't stripping nothing mate,this r10 more precious than my girlfriend,all I'm trying to work out is were it leaking from as at the minute Im workin seven days a week and ain't got time to take it to a recommended gunsmith. The bloke who filled it iv found out is a complete numpty,it's a fishing shop with a charge station,Im not gana touch it I was gana fill it and squirt a bit of soapy water on rhe likely leaking spots just to try and find out as it's eatin away at me now,espicially as I can't take it anywhere at the minit. Quote Link to post
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Buy a hand pump! Quote Link to post
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