Air rifle humane kill range

[North Wales Hunter 6]

Hi guys,

 

I own a Gamo Shaddow CSI I had it about a year now and it says its a full power one but I know it wont have 12ftlbs of power and I was wondering what the standard out of the box "full power" air rifles max humane killing rangei dont shoot at anything over 30 yards away because past that is out of my comfort zone and I dont wish to wound an animal and let it suffer.

 

So guys what do you think?

[rossy08 33]

Hi guys,

 

I own a Gamo Shaddow CSI I had it about a year now and it says its a full power one but I know it wont have 12ftlbs of power and I was wondering what the standard out of the box "full power" air rifles max humane killing rangei dont shoot at anything over 30 yards away because past that is out of my comfort zone and I dont wish to wound an animal and let it suffer.

 

So guys what do you think?

 

all right there pal,welcome.

 

you kinda answeded you own question there pal. if 30 your ideal range then stick with it. you can puch out to 45-50 but you need to get the practice in first..

 

what i have found recently is gammo talk a load of sh*t in there manuals.

 

had there new cataloug come through the other day and according to them there 1000fps.which to me is crap, my s300 at 11.97flb was only running at 815fps, also have an old one for repair at the min and its the same story in that manual,so its a long standing prob.

 

chances are your gun will be around the 11.4flb as this tends to be what most guns come out the factory at.

 

atb

Andy

[pianoman 3,587]

Hi mate and welcome to the section.

Just a note to fully endorse Andy's spot-on answer.

 

Your best hunting range lies entirely within your ability to hit a tight, penny sized 10-shot group to the limit where it starts to come apart with your aim. As an indication of maximums, a sub-12 ft/lb air rifle with an output in excess of 10.5 can lob a .22 pellet over 400 yards and, theoretically at least, retains enough kinetic energy to ensure penetration and humanely kill a rabbit through the head to 250 yards so, we are really only using a small amount of the available range with maximum power, but we use a very high personal accuracy standard and thus, an effective kinetic punch very efficiently from it.

 

So don't worry about shooting humanely at 30 yards because, as long as you, your rifle, pellet and scope combo are accurate at that range, the likelyhood of wounding the poor thing is being kept to the minimums.

 

Well done for shooting with concern for your quarry's humane despatch. That deserves a SPA from me!

 

Simon

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[19powell90 89]

Personally i would shoot out to 50m tops whilst supported ( bipod, shooting sticks etc. )

 

atb

 

 

scotty

[secretagentmole 1,701]

Pianoman knows his stuff for sure, 30 yards is what I am starting out at (getting my eye back in after a couple of decades respite) by the way nice polecat and ferret!

[aaronpigeonplucker 32]

shoot at whatever range (be it 15 yrds, or 50yrds) you can put 10 shots in a pound sized area. if you cant do this past 20 yrds, 20yrds is your maximum hunting range and you'll have to learn to stlak closer.

[North Wales Hunter 6]

Ok thanks alot Andy and ye they do!

 

Thanks Pianoman too big help and whats a SPA?

 

19powell90 Thanks.

 

Thanks secretagentmole there good workers too.

 

@aaronpigeonplucker ye thats what I do if I dont feel comfortable taking the shot ill stalk closer.

 

Thanks alot guys big help.

 

Jake

[zini 1,939]

SPA for you Jake for asking the right questions

 

Well done buddy.

 

The question has already answered so I won’t labour on apart from when I started shooting at 13 I started at around 10 to 15 metres as that’s what I was comfortable at. I didn’t understand hold over and under back then.

 

It’s surprising though how much vermin you can shoot at those ranges so don’t rush and take your time buddy, enjoy the experience of hitting your goals.

 

Having accuracy from 1 shooting position isn’t the same from all positions. I.E. I shoot further and more accurately from a rested position, prone or kneeling that from a standing unsupported position so knowing your strengths and maximum ranges from each shooting position is also important

 

Si

[pianoman 3,587]

Personally i would shoot out to 50m tops whilst supported ( bipod, shooting sticks etc. )

 

atb

 

 

scotty

He shoots with a spring rifle Scotty. He cannot use anything but the palm of his hand for support mate

 

North Wales Hunter

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[matt_hooks 188]

Pianoman, that's not entirely true. The rifle needs to rest on the palm of the hand for consistency of shot, but there's nothing saying the hand can't be rested on something

(gate post, shooting stick, whatever you have to hand)

[zini 1,939]

I think that's what Simon meant Matt buddy. The way he wrote it can be miss interpreted though wrongly.

 

Simon knows his shooting better than most so I doubt that he meant it wrongly.

 

Si

[pianoman 3,587]

Aha a misunderstanding I see! Okay Matt. Reading it back... I made no reference to actually supporting the hand as the usual application of a shooting stick or bipod means the rifle is rested directly on these devices. With a spring rifle this clearly does not work; that much we agree on.

 

What I meant was the spring rifle, itself, is supported by, or rested upon the palm of the leading hand only. Resting it, alone, on bipods, sticks or any solid rest is not recommended, because of the 2-way nature of a typical springer's recoil. It will bounce against the firm, undamped surface of a solid rest and throw the shot wide.

 

I really made no reference to whatever you want to use to support the leading hand That's the fundamental difference. I was refering specifically to what the spring rifle alone should rest on; the cushioning palm of the hand only and nothing else.

 

Sorry, I should have made that more clear, perhaps.

 

The real art of an effective, supportive rest for a spring rifle lies in comfortably resting the forearm that supports the wrist, that supports the hand!

 

I hope that clarifies my original meaning and dispells the misunderstanding I may have inferred..

 

Thanks Si, you knew what I meant there!

 

All the best gentlemen.

 

Simon

Edited February 20, 2011 by pianoman

[North Wales Hunter 6]

Thanks guys! I now that too!

 

Thanks

 

ATB

 

NWH

[zini 1,939]

Yes Simon,

 

I knew what you were getting at buddy and know that you know your stuff.

 

You don't get to the dizzy heights of a sniper without knowing your shooting.

 

I know 2 or 3 real life snipers and I have full respect fir them.

 

ATB

 

Si.

[Squirrel Shooter 5]

Yes Simon,

 

I knew what you were getting at buddy and know that you know your stuff.

 

You don't get to the dizzy heights of a sniper without knowing your shooting.

 

I know 2 or 3 real life snipers and I have full respect fir them.

 

ATB

 

Si.

Pianoman is a sniper? I had no idea, I've always wanted to talk to a real life Carlos Hathcock!