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cheers pal for the advice she meant fcuking business she fcuking had hold of one trying to smash it into the ground what do you think of the electric collar do you think it will fcuk it up ?

Your best bet would have been to stay and train her when & where it happen (if possible)

Now......On the lead walk right up to the sheep, get them running so they catch the dogs eye, then every time she looks at them, lose your rag with her...don't mean beating the shit out of her, i pinned Khan to the ground screaming in his face ragging him when he caught one. Me angry scared him more than a kicking ever would. Too much beating can make a dog too scared to come back to you if it even 'thinks' you might be angry, and you will need to be able to recall it! But for any type of training to work you must do it for at least 5 consecutive days...if she looks, she gets told, rest of the time try to relax, go about your business as if she had never chased a ewe, but deliberately walk her into them, time and time again. Have a break walk well away from sheep, mooch about a bit and come back later when all may be forgotten. A long line works a treat with dogs which have never attacked, but if she has a taste for it, i would wait till after the initial training is working perfect.

cheers moll and scent great advice :thumbs:

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Agree scent when it comes to livestock you cant f**k about.You must make sure the dogs knows its a no-no.

keep at him pal it will be worth it in the end .Nowt worse then the lurcher off the lead and not knowing what around the corner if you dont thrust him with live stock.I think jigsaw did a thread on breaking to live stock aswell it may be worth a look

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Like I say mat mine will trot about 10yrds n come back but I know av walked trough a yard full and she never bats an eye maybe me being paranoid about her running toward them av never let her have a chance but I know she wouldn't go any further if I call her back maybe it's just noisy and wants a closer look coz I know if my bitch has her eye on something and wants to kill it there would be no callin her back

 

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Also I once got told off a old bloke who used to trial labs he said if any of his dogs would looks at live stock put it in a pen with three tups (males) and they deffo won't be lookin at anything with wool on again lol never tried it but apparently it works anyone heard of this???

 

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Also I once got told off a old bloke who used to trial labs he said if any of his dogs would looks at live stock put it in a pen with three tups (males) and they deffo won't be lookin at anything with wool on again lol never tried it but apparently it works anyone heard of this???

 

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that's what a old bloke told me to do, put my grandads collie in with 2 old rambs of my dads and was up the vets the next day with the dog half dead

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Also I once got told off a old bloke who used to trial labs he said if any of his dogs would looks at live stock put it in a pen with three tups (males) and they deffo won't be lookin at anything with wool on again lol never tried it but apparently it works anyone heard of this???

 

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that's what a old bloke told me to do, put my grandads collie in with 2 old rambs of my dads and was up the vets the next day with the dog half dead

That's why you only use one! only let the one ram do the job so the dog has half a chance of getting out the way!

or use a ewe with a lamb!!!

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TOOK THE LURCHER PUP FOR A RATCH TODAY SHE HIS A 5/8 3/8 BULL CROSS NEVER LOOKED AT SHEEP BEFORE UNTIL TODAY SHE JUST TOOK OFF ATFER 1 IT DIDN,T LISTEN TO A FCUKING WORD I WAS TELLING IT COME BACK AFTER A MIN SO I GAVE HER A TELLING OFF IF YOU NO WHAT I MEAN LET IT OF THE LEAD AGAIN IT DONE THE SAME THING AGAIN TOMORROW I WILL TRY HER ON A LONG LEAD SO I HAVE CONTROL OF HER IF THAT DOES NOT WORK WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE ELECTRIC COLLAR ?GUTTED HAD HER FROM A PUP SHE HIS NOW 11 MONTHS ABOUT 24 "" TTS VERY RACEY CHEERS YETI

 

Kick it in the head :thumbs: .

DONE THAT PAL LOL :thumbs:

 

Harder,,,they can take it,:thumbs: .

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Also I once got told off a old bloke who used to trial labs he said if any of his dogs would looks at live stock put it in a pen with three tups (males) and they deffo won't be lookin at anything with wool on again lol never tried it but apparently it works anyone heard of this???

 

Atb ld2010

 

Depends on the dog. An aggressive dog will just fight back more, and will never forget.

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TOOK THE LURCHER PUP FOR A RATCH TODAY SHE HIS A 5/8 3/8 BULL CROSS NEVER LOOKED AT SHEEP BEFORE UNTIL TODAY SHE JUST TOOK OFF ATFER 1 IT DIDN,T LISTEN TO A FCUKING WORD I WAS TELLING IT COME BACK AFTER A MIN SO I GAVE HER A TELLING OFF IF YOU NO WHAT I MEAN LET IT OF THE LEAD AGAIN IT DONE THE SAME THING AGAIN TOMORROW I WILL TRY HER ON A LONG LEAD SO I HAVE CONTROL OF HER IF THAT DOES NOT WORK WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE ELECTRIC COLLAR ?GUTTED HAD HER FROM A PUP SHE HIS NOW 11 MONTHS ABOUT 24 "" TTS VERY RACEY CHEERS YETI

all dogs are a pain the neck with sheep but bull x's just seem to enjoy it more !!! the more you beat it and kick it the head the worse it will get ....... if your going to use the shock collar get a water proof one and chuck a bucket of water over the dog first .. electricity no matter how low the voltage will travel through water there fore shocking the dog all over not just the tw*ts neck . some will call this cruel but if that dog kills a sheep it becomes a dead dog walking :thumbs: good luck

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i the miners strike of 85 i was told a dog that could knack a sheep when told wa worth more than owt saw dogs go for sheep just walk them through and when there penning a few good rows will sort it out ,and if not get an electric collar , sheep and dogs are a nite mare at times mines take atelling but when pups and the odd stray shep is about were he shouldnt be i still give dogs arow and make them realise not worth it chaseing them

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