Simoman 110 Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Fellas, just wondered what your feeling is on the striking ability of a lurcher, do you think it's an inheritable trait or not......... Quote Link to post
DottyDoo 500 Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 i personally think it comes wae practise mate i have seen dogs that are getting lamped regular an are striking well, lose theyr strike after as little as a week off work...... whereas same dog, oot a few nites on trot again, will be back at the top of his game just my observations Quote Link to post
Simoman 110 Posted February 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 Definately agree Dotty that practice and work improves a dogs striking ability, just wondered if its a trait that can be "bred in", seen dogs take time to be able to catch and judge the correct time to strike, but also seen dogs that run and strike at the first rabbit like they have been doing it for several seasons and continue like this.......... Quote Link to post
supersam 64 Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 some strike better than others no matter how much there brought out but is it down to the indvidual dog or the breeding??? i do not know as iv seen difference,s from litter mates with regarding there striking ability. i think its down to the indvidual dog. Quote Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 (edited) Agree its all down to pratise and a bit of brains.Some will try to pick up from the back end.Where as others will run by and take it by the side.But for me the best is a quick dog that can run the side keeping a few paces behind and takeing it on the turn . Edited February 4, 2011 by Catcher 1 Quote Link to post
supersam 64 Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 i like for em to take them on the run too lol. all dogs are different like all rabbits are different. ya ever see the same run twice which prob makes us keep going out. some dogs are more of a sit back ad run the rabbit til it turns from the ditch with excellent percision.some go balls out getting burnt on the turn but take the most spectactular rabbits with some dogs being in between and different dependng on there speed,brain and strike. all dogs are different. Quote Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 (edited) A fast dog dosent run at top speed.Most will keep up with its quarry trying to panic it as i said before a good dog will stay slitely on the side behind waiting for the turn.If it turns into the dog game over.If it turn away the dog sees it and turn accordingly. Most times you get the same result. Edited February 4, 2011 by Catcher 1 Quote Link to post
fresh earth 47 Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 I would say to an extent yes . Only because all dogs are passed down the instinct to chase aswel as strike at its quarry , As said above i have seen litter mates strike totaly differently. I would also tend to disagree though with the above in some respects about fast dogs not running top speed. The way most dogs run is down to how they are taught and more importantly alowed to .... To an extent the way they run is passed down the line but if the owner stops sertain traits and allows others it imo changes that dogs running style from what has been passed down. Questions answer ... Yes its imo inherated into every dog regardles of the breed but regular work is what perfects the strike. Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 saw five generaitions of colie lurchers spanning 3 decades strike and determanaition is bred in to them and can be bred out to some grab at anything others try and get good grip ,all started at the same time seven months catching rabbs and just went on to get better and more determined now ive saw other dogs big dogs make it look dificult as they rarely got rabbs all hare and roe when it was all legal , thery have adiffrent attitude to the game ,ye good ability to cacyh is inherited plus good entering Quote Link to post
border lad 1,047 Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 the strike is a gift to a dog some are better than others, practice makes perfection, for me, when coursing was legal, a dog/or bitch, up to its quarry, put the first bend in, steady itself, back-up probabaly another bend, and then you would see a good dog get right down to its quarry, and lift its quarry, and return to hand, I have seen dogs that could not strike, do every thing, but lift its quarry, run over the quarry, wide on the bends, and come back in like a train and miss again, so the strike is a gift, some have it some dont, and I do not believe in 5 minute courses, like footballers, strikers cost= 50 million, and 35 million, defenders, 2 or3 million, (((((( A GIFT, and great to see and own, 1 Quote Link to post
rocky1 942 Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 my pup was running down the beam and strikeing spot on ,before we had the snow ,and got him out again and it took a few weeks 2 get it back ,but i think its all about keeping it fresh in the pups mind, had him out the last 2 nites and his hardly missing a beat ,he only 13 month and he finishing the season strong Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 some dog s have it naturaly saw my oldbitch pick up rabbs hares in front of dogs half her age her daughter and father was the same are the same i think its breeding and giving the dog plenty work when young to be blessd with a good mouth you are [bANNED TEXT] border lad good strikers are not cheap just like good dogs or good blood ,as ive saw lots that couldnt catch a rabbit in a phone box ,as they say ,stike comes with balance height etc you here all those guys with muckle big dogs saying they catch rabbits no bother took afew outthey only caut when i had old bitch on leash its al to do with balance determantion to go through the pain barrier to catch mate always was and always will be Quote Link to post
DottyDoo 500 Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 some dog s have it naturaly saw my oldbitch pick up rabbs hares in front of dogs half her age her daughter and father was the same are the same i think its breeding and giving the dog plenty work when young to be blessd with a good mouth you are [bANNED TEXT] border lad good strikers are not cheap just like good dogs or good blood ,as ive saw lots that couldnt catch a rabbit in a phone box ,as they say ,stike comes with balance height etc you here all those guys with muckle big dogs saying they catch rabbits no bother took afew outthey only caut when i had old bitch on leash its al to do with balance determantion to go through the pain barrier to catch mate always was and always will be took a few out, they only caught when my ole bitch was on the leash your some man whin 1 Quote Link to post
optimus 447 Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 (edited) WHETHER YOUR DOG HAS A NATURAL STRIKE OR NOT, ITS A DIFFERENT GAME STRIKING AT EARLY SEASON STUFF & THEN STRIKING & CATCHING WHEN THE GAME GOES UP A GEAR COME THE TURN OF THE YEAR. WHETHER YOUR DOG IS A NATURAL STRIKER OR NOT IT STILL NEEDS OPPORTUNITY & EXPERIENCE TO LEARN THAT NOT EVERYTHING IT CHASES WILL BE CAUGHT EASILY. OPINIONS VARY, BUT I WOULD SAY EVEN A NATURAL STRIKER NEEDS THE RUNNING & EDUCATION TO LEARN TO CO,ORDINATE ITS STRIKE WITH ITS PHYSICAL ABILITIES SUCH AS STAMINA & SPEED. PERHAPS WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT IS THE DOGS MENTALITY TO ASSOCIATE THAT IT CAN OR CANT KEEP PUSHING ITSELF WITH SUCCESS AFTER HAVING GONE THAT BIT EXTRA??? NOTHING IN MY OPINION MAKES A DOG MORE THAN IT GETTING FUR IN ITS MOUTH AT THE END OF A CHASE. SOME HAVE THE ABILITY BUT LACK THAT DESIRE THAT A GOOD DOG NEEDS. OTHERS HAVE LESS ABILITY BUT WILL KEEP PUSHING ON THROUGH PURE DESIRE OR AS SOME WOULD SAY "GAMENESS". PERSONALLY I HAVENT SEEN ANY DEFINITIVE PROOF THAT STRIKE, OR INABILITY TO STRIKE IS INHERITED OR NOT Edited February 4, 2011 by optimus Quote Link to post
artic 595 Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 That's a good question me ol plummer lover! Guess what, I don't have the answer, I dont't think there is a Correct answer, but I'll guess. I honestly believe it's in all dogs naturally instinct to strike, and strike well. Yes some better than others. You only have to see in local parks how many various breeds will strike at a tumbling/bouncing tennis ball with perfect timing to see they all have it in them. For me it's not the strike, (and yes it's obviously important to strike well if your using your dog to hunt), it's more of "Can this dog use it's gears well, and will it use its intelligence" Quote Link to post
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