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Very nice rifle :thumbs: . I understood there were problems encountered with the original Parker Hale Pheonix and a lot of shooters were put off -including myself. Certainly I didn't see many in the gun shops and even fewer these days. The new manufacturers seem to have made an improved and better version of what does look an attractive pcp.

 

You got one of these Bob? Like to hear more about it if you have?!

 

ATB

 

Simon

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I have Demo ones for Shooters to try - .177 Phoenix & .22 Fast Fire

 

@ my Club - Lea Valley - http://www.lvagc.com

or other Shoots I attend

 

Has been Several issues with Distributors over the years

 

Now Done by Pax Guns - who own Phoenix through their Retail Shop

 

Retail & Trade Sales - With me visitng Trade Shops on Request

 

Yes - I do work for them but not Staff

 

As stated are a pure Hunting Rifle that can both be reloaded from the shoulder

As per video on website

 

Fast Fire was designed and Made for those that wanted a Full power Take Down Rifle

 

 

BOB/R

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Hiya Bob/R

 

 

Do not like the looks of the fast fire at all :no:

 

BUT, the Pheonix looks very nice indeed, nice lines, and they have thought about us left handers to with the ambi stock, nice.

 

Hope to see one of these at the Game fares, would love a try of that Pheonix.

 

 

ATB.

 

 

Bill.

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I must agree with Bill, the Fast Fire is not remotely attractive to my eye; in fact, I would bin it from the range and focus on making and developing the Pheonix and a newer design using the same system format and boosting sales. But then, I personally dislike all TDRs and most pcps' anyway.

 

God knows why we can make a nice looking job of a rifle, but there has to be barriers and obstacles with distributors to getting it into more outlets and boosting sales.

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Hiya Bob/R

 

 

Do not like the looks of the fast fire at all :no:

 

BUT, the Pheonix looks very nice indeed, nice lines, and they have thought about us left handers to with the ambi stock, nice.

 

Hope to see one of these at the Game fares, would love a try of that Pheonix.

 

 

ATB.

 

 

Bill.

 

 

Bill where is Back & Behond ?

 

Shows cost to much money for Small Companies -

 

I have them @ Lea Valley - http://www.lvagc.com - Club day's - Saturday's

 

Or when at Bisley for Open Day's Running IPAS Display Shoots

 

BOB/R

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Hiya Bob/R

 

 

Do not like the looks of the fast fire at all :no:

 

BUT, the Pheonix looks very nice indeed, nice lines, and they have thought about us left handers to with the ambi stock, nice.

 

Hope to see one of these at the Game fares, would love a try of that Pheonix.

 

 

ATB.

 

 

Bill.

 

 

Bill where is Back & Behond ?

 

Shows cost to much money for Small Companies -

 

I have them @ Lea Valley - http://www.lvagc.com - Club day's - Saturday's

 

Or when at Bisley for Open Day's Running IPAS Display Shoots

 

BOB/R

 

 

 

Hi Bob.

 

Im down in Devon mate.

 

I can understand the costs of the shows, shame it has such an impact on smaller companies.

Some of the smaller companies have a lot to offer the shooting enthusiast.

 

Shame you cant team up with another trader and share the costs, or does that not work?

 

 

ATB.

 

 

 

Bill.

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I must agree with Bill, the Fast Fire is not remotely attractive to my eye; in fact, I would bin it from the range and focus on making and developing the Pheonix and a newer design using the same system format and boosting sales. But then, I personally dislike all TDRs and most pcps' anyway.

 

God knows why we can make a nice looking job of a rifle, but there has to be barriers and obstacles with distributors to getting it into more outlets and boosting sales.

 

 

The Origina Mark 1 Phoenix was orignally tied to Parker Hale

 

Who took over distribution when the Mark Two's was first made

 

But never pushed in Shops

 

 

Rangewright tried - but again did not get out

 

Then Prestige Gun's - Again -

 

Down now to be sold Direct through Pax Gun's London

 

But any RFD Dealer can buy them in @ Trade rate if they have a valid RFD

On a proforma invoice basis

 

I have been known to visit Dealers interested :thumbs:

 

Not a employee - Long time Associate of Company and owner Hugh Earl

 

BOB/R

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The problem is the asking price.They have gone over double the price they were a few years back before the VCR act utting had them for a good price £400 ish if I remember rightly.

Look at the other options in this price range and its no wonder they dont sell and dealer wont stock a rifle that wont sell,specialy small companies as they are more likey to want cash up front rather then sell or return.

 

I would love one of they,a lot can be dont to improve them and from the new owners taking over i remember a ot of custom parts,the owner or manager has a real nice one but when you forking out over a k on one of these with mods you have to think that you coud be having the latest technology electronic gaystates,one off ISP or a one of ripper.

 

Its no wonder why they dont sel.I cant understand why there so expensive either as there a very simple design.

Who ever designed that fast fire thing needs fast firing lol.

I coulld of come up with some thing a milion times better then that.

There no hop for these unlless the price drops drasticl as I know if I was spending £600+ on a new Rifle,I woud not even consider this.

 

Its a £300-400 rifle.

I really do like them but theres to many rifles in that price range that are plane and simply better in all respects.

 

People struggle to sell these on too I have noticed so if considering one,look for a used one not that they show up often.

I wonder how many of these have ever been sold in tota,I can imagine not a lot.

Lets compare it to a gaystate mk3 or mk4 or air ranger?or theoben rapid/fx range?it has no chance in winning over a customer who knows his air guns.

 

These would sell rapid if given a proper price tag around £300-350.

I dont know how there surviving as so many british gun makers are gone.

Hey dont forget Air arms are tru british,all bsa pcps are too and so are gaystates.

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