raspme 0 Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 look lads i didnt want to start an argument..i was asking a simple question will smoke bolt it or not.??????????.ive got a smoker that would soon fill an earth ...just add a bit of redex and it would fill your house in ten min ..like i said i havent done much digging i have always had running dogs i use my terrier for bushing and ratting he has gone to ground .....it was only last week he went to ground but i can call him out even when hes baying .....i got him for bushing and thas what he does.and does it well........ hi there if your terrier is baying,then its working the fox,if it where me and you can call him out leave him work it for a hour or so.or as long as the terrier will stay.then shout him out,stand back,keep quite and you might get a bolt IMO Quote Link to post
snoopdog 1,256 Posted January 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 look lads i didnt want to start an argument..i was asking a simple question will smoke bolt it or not.??????????.ive got a smoker that would soon fill an earth ...just add a bit of redex and it would fill your house in ten min ..like i said i havent done much digging i have always had running dogs i use my terrier for bushing and ratting he has gone to ground .....it was only last week he went to ground but i can call him out even when hes baying .....i got him for bushing and thas what he does.and does it well........ hi there if your terrier is baying,then its working the fox,if it where me and you can call him out leave him work it for a hour or so.or as long as the terrier will stay.then shout him out,stand back,keep quite and you might get a bolt IMO i didnt let him enter this one because it looks tight inside ..might sound soft but hes not an earth dog and i wouldnt risk loseing him it would be nearly impossible to dig..theres boulders a big rocks ...............i know people have hundred % earth dogs and would enter them mine isnt and i wouldnt...but if anybody wants to i will take them there ... Quote Link to post
Guest ragumup Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 TRUST ME IT WOULD FILL THE BIGGEST EARTH,, EXSUST FUMES IF YOU NOTICE FALLS THEY DONT RISE ,ALSO THE 1600 ENGINE CAN PUMP IT TO ALL NUCKS AND CRANIES ,WHAT I DO IS PUT SOME OIL IN THE FUEL AND RUN IT RICH PUT THE PIPE IN ONE HOLE FILL IT IN THEN WAIT UNTILL IT STARTS BELLOWING OUT ANOTHER HOLE THEN FILL THAT ONE IN AND SO ON UNTIL ALL HOLE ARE DONE IF IT WASNT FOR THIS MACHINE I WOULD OF NEVER GOT ON TOP OF THE RABBITS ON THE ESTATE BACK THEN I LIKE TO LEAVE THE EASY SETS FOR FERRTING ,AS I SAID IV NEVER DONE A FOX EARTH BUT IF IT DIDNT BOLT IT WOULD DIE, JUST LIKE YOU WOULD IF YOU WERE IN A OLD TELEPHONE BOX THE NOISE OF THE ENGINE MAY STOP IT BOLTING BUT IV ALWAYS USED A TERRIER, A PIC FOR FOXTRACK THE EXPERT Quote Link to post
snoopdog 1,256 Posted January 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 TRUST ME IT WOULD FILL THE BIGGEST EARTH,, EXSUST FUMES IF YOU NOTICE FALLS THEY DONT RISE ,ALSO THE 1600 ENGINE CAN PUMP IT TO ALL NUCKS AND CRANIES ,WHAT I DO IS PUT SOME OIL IN THE FUEL AND RUN IT RICH PUT THE PIPE IN ONE HOLE FILL IT IN THEN WAIT UNTILL IT STARTS BELLOWING OUT ANOTHER HOLE THEN FILL THAT ONE IN AND SO ON UNTIL ALL HOLE ARE DONE IF IT WASNT FOR THIS MACHINE I WOULD OF NEVER GOT ON TOP OF THE RABBITS ON THE ESTATE BACK THEN I LIKE TO LEAVE THE EASY SETS FOR FERRTING ,AS I SAID IV NEVER DONE A FOX EARTH BUT IF IT DIDNT BOLT IT WOULD DIE, JUST LIKE YOU WOULD IF YOU WERE IN A OLD TELEPHONE BOX THE NOISE OF THE ENGINE MAY STOP IT BOLTING BUT IV ALWAYS USED A TERRIER, A PIC FOR FOXTRACK THE EXPERTfeck me that would sort any earth out... :laug Quote Link to post
david2363 42 Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 It's a handy size too. Quote Link to post
Guest foxtrack Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Rats always bolt, rabbit hardly ever bolt, foxes im not sure but i have got a gaser that would do the job an car engine mounted on a trailer but iv always used a terrier its obvious that a lot of the boys on her ar not experianced terrier men youcantnot bolt a fox out by smoke and jest becouse u found fox shit outside a hole dont think a fox is a home they mark thier patch with scatts find a experienced terrier man to show u the ropes the last few replies u had was a load of bull shit THE QUESTION IS WOULD A FOX BOLT WITH SMOKE ,IF THERE WAS THERE , I USE MY ENGINE FOR MY JOB CONTROLING RABBITS WHAT THE f**k DO YOU KNOW right f*****g knowit all y are welcomed to come down to wales ill take u out with my dogs and when they mark a fox to ground u try and bolt it with smoke bring ur best smoker and we see what happens IMO, AND MY EXPERENCE OF DOING BIG RABBIT WARRENS, THE FOX WILL EITHER BE KILLED THOUGH CARBON MONXCIED OR BOLT, AS I SAID IV DONE IT FOR YEARS WITH RABBITS WARRENS SOME VAST WITH LARGE HOLES AND IT KILLS THEM VERY QUICKLY YOU SAID MY POST WAS BULLSHIT LIKE YOUV SMOKED LOADS OF FOXES, SO TELL US THEN ???????? AS IV NOT DONE IT WITH FOXES foxes have an incredible tolarance to gas i have known foxes to live in refuse tips pipes that where there to take the gas away i have also dug to terriers which are dead and the fox is still alive killed by gas the last dig was with the senney bridge hounds steep bank bog at bottom 7 foot dig found dead terrier and live fox terrier killed by gas the offer still stands come down to wales and prove me wrong ps snoopdog i am not causing arguments but theres a lot of people on here that wont give you the truth Quote Link to post
wink hound 0 Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 have you never bolted one from a big rabbit warren with it then? foxes are funny creatures and smoke is a funny tool, i have done my fair share of ratting and i have come to the conclusion that alot rats do die underground without even trying to bolt(not a nice death i wouldnt of thought), i have also done a good share of foxing with terriers, and you will find alot of foxes are sulky animals when to ground, i would only imagen that smoke would make it worse. imho opion just like when worked with dogs, some foxes will bolt, some wont. i wouldnt like to think of using smoke to a fox tho, i think its just as "unsporting". so you have 2 options really, get someone with a good bolting dog to try the earth or being a lurcher lad and being sure the earth is occupied simple wait for it to leave and dispatch. cheers wink Quote Link to post
foxlamper 5 Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Foxtrack i go with the senny bridge hunt every week with the terrier boys wots your name Quote Link to post
snoopdog 1,256 Posted January 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 have you never bolted one from a big rabbit warren with it then? foxes are funny creatures and smoke is a funny tool, i have done my fair share of ratting and i have come to the conclusion that alot rats do die underground without even trying to bolt(not a nice death i wouldnt of thought), i have also done a good share of foxing with terriers, and you will find alot of foxes are sulky animals when to ground, i would only imagen that smoke would make it worse. imho opion just like when worked with dogs, some foxes will bolt, some wont. i wouldnt like to think of using smoke to a fox tho, i think its just as "unsporting". so you have 2 options really, get someone with a good bolting dog to try the earth or being a lurcher lad and being sure the earth is occupied simple wait for it to leave and dispatch. cheers wink that seems a fair answer ..like you said its not very sporting smoking one out ..unless you knew it would defernetly bolt and we dont .....thats why i asked ...cheers .. :thumbs-up: Quote Link to post
Guest ragumup Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Rats always bolt, rabbit hardly ever bolt, foxes im not sure but i have got a gaser that would do the job an car engine mounted on a trailer but iv always used a terrier its obvious that a lot of the boys on her ar not experianced terrier men youcantnot bolt a fox out by smoke and jest becouse u found fox shit outside a hole dont think a fox is a home they mark thier patch with scatts find a experienced terrier man to show u the ropes the last few replies u had was a load of bull shit THE QUESTION IS WOULD A FOX BOLT WITH SMOKE ,IF THERE WAS THERE , I USE MY ENGINE FOR MY JOB CONTROLING RABBITS WHAT THE f**k DO YOU KNOW right f*****g knowit all y are welcomed to come down to wales ill take u out with my dogs and when they mark a fox to ground u try and bolt it with smoke bring ur best smoker and we see what happens IMO, AND MY EXPERENCE OF DOING BIG RABBIT WARRENS, THE FOX WILL EITHER BE KILLED THOUGH CARBON MONXCIED OR BOLT, AS I SAID IV DONE IT FOR YEARS WITH RABBITS WARRENS SOME VAST WITH LARGE HOLES AND IT KILLS THEM VERY QUICKLY YOU SAID MY POST WAS BULLSHIT LIKE YOUV SMOKED LOADS OF FOXES, SO TELL US THEN ???????? AS IV NOT DONE IT WITH FOXES foxes have an incredible tolarance to gas i have known foxes to live in refuse tips pipes that where there to take the gas away i have also dug to terriers which are dead and the fox is still alive killed by gas the last dig was with the senney bridge hounds steep bank bog at bottom 7 foot dig found dead terrier and live fox terrier killed by gas the offer still stands come down to wales and prove me wrong ps snoopdog i am not causing arguments but theres a lot of people on here that wont give you the truth NO OFFENCE BUT THE TRUTHS IS YOU DONT KNOW, AND NEITHER DO I ,REGARDS FOXES ONLY RABBITS Quote Link to post
snoopdog 1,256 Posted January 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 TRUST ME IT WOULD FILL THE BIGGEST EARTH,, EXSUST FUMES IF YOU NOTICE FALLS THEY DONT RISE ,ALSO THE 1600 ENGINE CAN PUMP IT TO ALL NUCKS AND CRANIES ,WHAT I DO IS PUT SOME OIL IN THE FUEL AND RUN IT RICH PUT THE PIPE IN ONE HOLE FILL IT IN THEN WAIT UNTILL IT STARTS BELLOWING OUT ANOTHER HOLE THEN FILL THAT ONE IN AND SO ON UNTIL ALL HOLE ARE DONE IF IT WASNT FOR THIS MACHINE I WOULD OF NEVER GOT ON TOP OF THE RABBITS ON THE ESTATE BACK THEN I LIKE TO LEAVE THE EASY SETS FOR FERRTING ,AS I SAID IV NEVER DONE A FOX EARTH BUT IF IT DIDNT BOLT IT WOULD DIE, JUST LIKE YOU WOULD IF YOU WERE IN A OLD TELEPHONE BOX THE NOISE OF THE ENGINE MAY STOP IT BOLTING BUT IV ALWAYS USED A TERRIER, A PIC FOR FOXTRACK THE EXPERTfeck me that would sort any earth out... :laug it really amazes me that post cause so much argueing ,?and listen snoop you keep takeing your dogs up and around that earth ,and you waint be takeing up no ones dog ,once they smell that dogs has been around they will stop useing that earth,but hey what do i no :whistle: :whistle: they been once salter 12... .....sorry i forgot about you .whats the point of asking everybody when all i had to do was ask you ...sorry mate... Quote Link to post
adam 0 Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 ragumup just to let you know it is ilegal to gas foxes either phostoxin or by car exhaust!!! that is why god invented terriers to go down and do the job suggest you stick to the rabbits Quote Link to post
Guest ragumup Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 have you never bolted one from a big rabbit warren with it then? foxes are funny creatures and smoke is a funny tool, i have done my fair share of ratting and i have come to the conclusion that alot rats do die underground without even trying to bolt(not a nice death i wouldnt of thought), i have also done a good share of foxing with terriers, and you will find alot of foxes are sulky animals when to ground, i would only imagen that smoke would make it worse. imho opion just like when worked with dogs, some foxes will bolt, some wont. i wouldnt like to think of using smoke to a fox tho, i think its just as "unsporting". so you have 2 options really, get someone with a good bolting dog to try the earth or being a lurcher lad and being sure the earth is occupied simple wait for it to leave and dispatch. cheers wink WHEN I GO OUT FOR A WHOLE DAY YOU WOULD BOLT ONE RABBIT IF THAT, UNLIKE RATS THEY NORMALY FACE THE FUMES THE ODD ONE THAT BOLTS/FLOPS OUT YOU CAN ALWAYS PICK IT YOU WITH YOUR HAND AS ITS OVER COME WITH THE FUMES Quote Link to post
Guest foxtrack Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Foxtrack i go with the senny bridge hunt every week with the terrier boys wots your name cant give my name but im a bricklayer from gelligaer the hunts man and the terrier man from maesteg now who i am Quote Link to post
adam 0 Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 ragumup it is ilegal to gas foxes either with phostoxin or car exhaust!!!! a terrier is the way go. suggest you stick to the rabbits. Quote Link to post
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