new law

[festa 206]

hi lads

just a heads up

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8286273/Parents-who-do-not-secure-air-guns-will-be-fined-under-new-law.html

 

atb gary

[andyz 30]

Not a bad thing I guess, security can't be taken too lightly! 

 

ATB, Andy

[andyz 30]

Not a bad thing I guess, security can't be taken too lightly! 

 

ATB, Andy

[andyfr1968 772]

And not before time, IMHO

[barrywhite 282]

The TV ,news papers ect will now be filled with how dangerous air guns are and to stop more deaths they must be locked up .The fact that scateboards and bikes are more dangerous will be ignored .It is just a question of time before an other inccerdent with an air gun happens . You cannot legislate to stop morons . So when it does happen the anti gun brigade can then say LOCKING UP DANGEROUS AIR GUNS DOSENT WORK .The genaral public will have to agree .More control is needed ect ect ect ect .

[jasper65 6]

some info I had sent to me earlier about it.

 

Sunday, 30 January 2011

New airgun law - where did that come from?

A new airgun law comes into force on 10 February. You will be liable for a fine of up to £1000 if you don't lock up your airgun away from kids. Details here on the Home Office website. By kids I mean under-18s, and there's new government guidance on what they consider 'reasonable':

 

* store your airgun out of sight and separately from pellets

* use a robust, lockable cupboard and keep the keys separate and secure

* always store your airgun inside a house rather than in an out building, such as a garden shed

* never store a cocked or loaded airgun

* when using your airgun, keep it under close supervision and never leave it unattended

 

I can't argue with the stated aim of the new law, to prevent accidents and protect children. But is this any way to make firearms legislation? It's been slipped in the back door with no consultation that I was aware of - although the simultaneous publication of a supportive press release on BASC's website indicates they were involved in the process. It takes advantage of existing enabling legislation, so the minister just signs an order with no need for all that troublesome debate in parliament. I thought that was the New Labour way.

 

And how many children will it save? Frankly, without airgun licensing, this can only ever be enforced after the event. And anyone moronic enough to leave an airgun within reach of kids will find some other way to help them kill themselves - matches, petrol, kitchen knives, car keys (why not a law about locking up your car keys - how many kids are killed and injured that way each year?).

 

New government, same old rubbish attitude to guns, if you ask me.

 

AND ANOTHER THING... It occurs to me that this is a real danger for FAC and SGC holders - some of whom won't even have heard of it by the time their FEO next visits. FEO walks in, looks around, what's that propped up in the corner sir? Only an airgun. Hmm, got any grandchildren sir... Before you know it you've committed a firearms offence - and your shooting career is over.

 

With the press release coming out on 27 Jan, and the law coming into force on 10 Feb, there isn't even time for a monthly shooting magazine to tell its readers about the new law. As for those who don't read the shooting magazines - well, they may never find out.

 

Still, on the bright side the gunshops are rubbing their hands at the thought of all those cabinet sales!

[Buster321c 1,010]

Can only be a good thing .......

[mick01 36]

thanks gary.. i have no children but my little brother is always around. for some good reason he takes no interest in my hunting. he asked to look through the scope once and that was it. i do keep it well out of his way just in case. some of you lot have your kids involved and that can only be a good thing i suppose. if there educated about the dangers and they know its for sport, not a weapon, as some rambo's call it. i dont know for sure because i got none but im guessing the problems come from the curious kids who think theres a "gun" in the house. i would of been the same. thanks anyway gary.. good to know for later on.

[festa 206]

next thing it will be extended to transporting to and from permissions ,,,,

 

atb gary

[fry 209]

do trigger locks not count for nowt then i spose?

[HUnter_zero 58]

next thing it will be extended to transporting to and from permissions ,,,,

 

atb gary

 

 

It already is! Bottom line is that YOU must secure your rifle as to prevent unauthorised access by under 18 year old. If your car was broken in to and your airguns were stolen by under 18 year old, and you haven't take precautions to secure the rifles, then you have committed an offence.

 

John

[andyfr1968 772]

do trigger locks not count for nowt then i spose?

 

I was wondering the same thing. I keep my guns locked together with a 'U' lock through the trigger guards.

[HUnter_zero 58]

do trigger locks not count for nowt then i spose?

 

 

No. The airgun has to be made secure or reasonable steps made to prevent access to the actual airgun. Making the gun safe or unfireable is different.

 

John

[HUnter_zero 58]

do trigger locks not count for nowt then i spose?

 

I was wondering the same thing. I keep my guns locked together with a 'U' lock through the trigger guards.

 

 

If you screwed a rawlbolt "eye" in to the wall and then passed the 'u' lock through the eye or ring of the bold that would comply with the law.

 

John

[andyfr1968 772]

do trigger locks not count for nowt then i spose?

 

I was wondering the same thing. I keep my guns locked together with a 'U' lock through the trigger guards.

 

 

If you screwed a rawlbolt "eye" in to the wall and then passed the 'u' lock through the eye or ring of the bold that would comply with the law.

 

John

 

Thanks for that, I'll get that done